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Thats a WCW move (Goldberg, mostly), something Vince has said he would never do.

He's done it before!

[Rappy Veteran]

CM Punk is now suspended! or "suspended"

[Scorbing]

CM Punk is now suspended! or "suspended"

I saw this and I have to tell you it looks pretty real, although I think it's a scripted promo. It's hard to tell. Some people say it's a promo others say it's real. The fact that he trashed the USA Network, spoke about Lesnar, Ring of Honor and Japan Wrestling plus trashed Vince, Triple-H, Stephanie and cursed, makes it difficult to know if it was real or fake. I don't think the USA Network bosses are too happy with that stunt, even if it was indeed a fake.

[MightyJordan]

I saw this and I have to tell you it looks pretty real, although I think it's a scripted promo. It's hard to tell. Some people say it's a promo others say it's real. The fact that he trashed the USA Network, spoke about Lesnar, Ring of Honor and Japan Wrestling plus trashed Vince, Triple-H, Stephanie and cursed, makes it difficult to know if it was real or fake. I don't think the USA Network bosses are too happy with that stunt, even if it was indeed a fake.

I'm still betting on it being a worked shoot. If it was a genuine shoot, I bet they would have released him and given his main event spot at Money in the Bank to someone else.

[iamawesomewicked]

There's no way it was a genuine shoot. Worked for sure. He wouldn't mention winning the title if it was legit.

[Yorak]

This is called a "worked shoot". Made to appear real, but is in fact scripted. How do I know for sure? First of all, the equipment control techs could cut off his microphone in a millisecond if they had to. And I am pretty sure the cameras would not continue to zoom in on his face if it was a real shoot. Second of all, some of you may or may not know that there was another episode of Raw filmed right after this one, which will be played next week. I am not going to spoil it for you, but feel free to read the spoilers somewhere.

[Rappy Veteran]

worked or not it doesn't matter as that was the best bit of wwe material for a VERY long time!

[MightyJordan]

some of you may or may not know that there was another episode of Raw filmed right after this one, which will be played next week. I am not going to spoil it for you, but feel free to read the spoilers somewhere.

Thanks, I just read the spoilers. :) I'm amazed they've actually taped an episode of RAW.

I'll just post the most important part disguised in the spoiler tags:

Alberto del Rio beat R-Truth and Rey Mysterio in a triple threat match to take Punk's place in the main event at Money in the Bank. At the end of the show, Vince comes out and Cena confronts him about CM Punk. In the end, after Cena handed Vince the WWE title, Vince reinstates Punk, and he's back in the main event, which is now a triple threat match. With an extra condition: If CM Punk wins the title, Cena is fired.

[Rappy Veteran]

If CM Punk wins the title, Cena is fired.

which will never happen while Cena is alive

[MightyJordan]

which will never happen while Cena is alive

Yep. I fear that

despite the buildup, CM Punk will never get his last hurrah. Unless WWE have got a much bigger storyline lined up, like maybe another invasion-type storyline with another promotion, like NJPW? No chance in hell, I know.

[episode]

I saw this and I have to tell you it looks pretty real, although I think it's a scripted promo. It's hard to tell. Some people say it's a promo others say it's real. The fact that he trashed the USA Network, spoke about Lesnar, Ring of Honor and Japan Wrestling plus trashed Vince, Triple-H, Stephanie and cursed, makes it difficult to know if it was real or fake. I don't think the USA Network bosses are too happy with that stunt, even if it was indeed a fake.

It was a shoot promo, but it was part of the storyline. He kept it in check, not going over any lines (like not mentioning TNA)

which will never happen while Cena is alive

Already happened once.

[Rappy Veteran]

It was a shoot promo, but it was part of the storyline. He kept it in check, not going over any lines (like not mentioning TNA)

Already happened once.

true but he is meant to feud with Del Rio for title but of course stories change with every show

[MightyJordan]

He kept it in check, not going over any lines (like not mentioning TNA)

Yep, that was another big sign it was a worked shoot, as any mention of TNA in any way, shape, or form, is forbidden. Just ask Kaval/Low Ki/Senshi...

So, a quick rundown of the obvious signs that it was a worked shoot:

1. He wasn't cut off as soon as he talked about kissing Vince's arse.
   
2. He mentions NJPW and ROH, but not TNA.
   
3. No one came out to try and stop him. Not even John Cena tried to stop him.
   

[episode]

true but he is meant to feud with Del Rio for title but of course stories change with every show

Everything I've read has said that this feud (Punk vs Cena) was Cena's idea. He asked for it. I think they've cooled on Del Rio.

[Rappy Veteran]

Everything I've read has said that this feud (Punk vs Cena) was Cena's idea. He asked for it. I think they've cooled on Del Rio.

have to respect cena for that then...del rio was pushed to quickly I thought

[Y2Stu]

here is that epic promo from a fans perspective, whats interesting to see is they suspended him during raw but we didn't see it (well not sure since i turned Raw off after they cut to the break/end after he finished the shoot)

i would embed it but dont know how lol

[Rappy Veteran]

that was epic!

[MightyJordan]

i would embed it but dont know how lol

Sorted. ;) To embed the videos, you use the "wyoutube" BBCode (so wyoutube contained in []), and you put just the video ID in there, which in this case is "1chI-XRPfNo":

[wyoutube]1chI-XRPfNo[/wyoutube]

[Zoom7000]

Take this for what it's worth, but if it is true, it was a very brave and bold move by the WWE and I hope they allow more like it in the future!

According to a reliable source in WWE' date=' CM Punk's memorable shoot promo that ended Monday's episode of WWE RAW was entirely unscripted improvised by Punk. Punk was instructed to go out and say in his own words why he was leaving the company, and nobody in the back knew what he was going to say.

Company officials (and the entire locker room) were watching Punk?s promo very closely in case he went too far ? and despite all the taboo things mentioned by the #1 contender to the WWE championship, the production team was only told to cut the segment when WWE?s anti-bullying campaign was mentioned, as the company does not want the program?s legitimacy questioned by bringing it into a storyline.

Punk's frustration with not being featured as a top superstar in WWE is legitimate and one of the reasons he?s been strongly considering leaving WWE.

As far as his contract status, Punk's deal apparently expired the second week of July, but he recently signed an extension to work through the Money in the Bank pay-per-view on July 17th.

Based on what we are hearing, Punk really will be leaving WWE after Money in the Bank for at least a few months.[/quote']

Source - Rajah.com

[Rappy Veteran]

yeah more unscripted WWE the better imo

[Victor Rambo]

The Rock's tweet

"CM Punk: it's simple business - The Rock is the main event at Wrestlemania cause it draws more money in one night, then u will in lifetime."

[episode]

I still think he has a contract. Why push him, why give him time, if hes not going to stay? It doesn't make sense. Everyone else that leaves (besides retirements of legends) does so on the mid-card. Not in a main event.

I feel a giant swerve coming.

[Y2Stu]

i can see a Punk vs Cena vs Rock at WM, that way neither Rock or "Super" Cena loses at WM and hurt each other credability.

Also cheers MightyJordan :) Always nice to know in the future

[Rappy Veteran]

I still think he has a contract. Why push him, why give him time, if hes not going to stay? It doesn't make sense. Everyone else that leaves (besides retirements of legends) does so on the mid-card. Not in a main event.

I feel a giant swerve coming.

he does and I think he will take time off....Vince is stupid if he lets this massive fan reaction disappear with just letting Punk go

[red.]

Vince has shown he doesn't want to listen to the fans by keeping Ryder on Superstars even after all those chants/signs and how he 'ribbed' him.