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[Gio Takahashi]

OK, so Rappy has officially announced he is to take a one year break from posting on Neowin now that he's reached 80,000 posts.

...so now it's up to us to fill in the gap here! :p I'll start off...

So, one week until Money in the Bank. What's everyone predictions? :)

Also, I just looked on NoDQ, and spotted this hip-hop song using Goldust's theme. Who wants to bet if he used this as his theme, he'd be a world champion? :p

I can't really say, mostly because I really don't pay much attention to WWE anymore, but the whole CM Punk story have me interested. I MIGHT just watch this PPV to see how it goes, but we'll see.

I think I'll post my prediction in a few days.

[episode]

Here's how I would book the two world title matches for MiTB.

1) Orton v Christian

Christian wins, somewhat cleanly. MiTB winner comes down, cashes in, wins. Christian can now complain about how he got screwed again. Then you have Orton v Christian for the #1 Contender spot on Smackdown.

2) Cena v Punk

Cena takes the usual beating, then takes control of the match. Hits the 5 knuckle shuffle, and down comes Vince. Vince hits Cena with the title, Punk pins Cena, Cena gets fired.

[red.]

When was the last time Cena lost a handicap match FFS?

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When was the last time Cena lost a handicap match FFS?

Cena doesn't lose clean. Either does Orton. Its part of the problem. Someone in booking thinks they can't make either guy lose clean, ever.

[TheElite]

Cena doesn't lose clean. Either does Orton. Its part of the problem. Someone in booking thinks they can't make either guy lose clean, ever.

Haha. I know, and it makes me laugh every time I watch Cena wrestle.

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Haha. I know, and it makes me laugh every time I watch Cena wrestle.

In reality, it has nothing to do with Cena or Orton. Its the bookers, writers, etc that can't ever make them look 'weak'.

[Nerd Rage]

In reality, it has nothing to do with Cena or Orton. Its the bookers, writers, etc that can't ever make them look 'weak'.

That's what I hate about the creative team. They make Cena and Orton like Superman, and in last years WM have Triple H tap out?!?!?!?! Makes HHH look like a pansy. I wish WWE would get it together. I really am liking this CM Punk angle, so hopefully they don't screw it up.

[episode]

That's what I hate about the creative team. They make Cena and Orton like Superman, and in last years WM have Triple H tap out?!?!?!?! Makes HHH look like a pansy. I wish WWE would get it together. I really am liking this CM Punk angle, so hopefully they don't screw it up.

I disagree with the end of the HHH-Taker match. Was very well done. They took everything the other had, and the UT had one more move, the Hell's Gate, which HHH had no counter to.

[Gio Takahashi]

That's what I hate about the creative team. They make Cena and Orton like Superman, and in last years WM have Triple H tap out?!?!?!?! Makes HHH look like a pansy. I wish WWE would get it together. I really am liking this CM Punk angle, so hopefully they don't screw it up.

+1. It really annoys me when they keep pushing Cena up like a superman. It's been done, it's overdone, it's why people call WWE "Same old crap" because I feel like I'm watching the same old **** every pay per view.

As for Triple H tapping out, I agree. It wasn't the first time I've seen him tap out on a huge match, but it does bugs me when I see him do it like that.

[TheElite]

In reality, it has nothing to do with Cena or Orton. Its the bookers, writers, etc that can't ever make them look 'weak'.

Oh, I agree. I wasn't laughing at Cena, but laughing at the way it was made to seem.

SuperCena FTW!

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[MightyJordan]

This Botchamania ending is a good example of that too:

[howb21]

Check this out by The Rock! He's responded to Cena's subtle taunts about him.

http://www.youtube.com/therock#p/a/u/0/e2VK6U6YVDE

Actually, I must admit I am on Cena's side for this one, I think The Rock cant just come and go without sequence if he's sincere about calling WWE home, even if his contract allows him to do so.

[MightyJordan]

[episode]

^ Watched that 11 minutes of the same old crap yesterday. Was not impressed. Same old sayings that he's been saying about Cena from the beginning, except for saying 'I don't need to be there'. Well then don't say you WILL be there if you 'don't need to'.

Only interesting thing is that he teases he'll see Cena at Survivor Series.

[red.]

I actually thought that was a good promo by the Rock and the kind of stuff we should have been seeing on TV compared to making fun of Cena's shirts.

Cena responded on Twitter with exactly the same old stuff he's been saying since the start. Which seems like a lame comeback compared to this video.

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I actually thought that was a good promo by the Rock and the kind of stuff we should have been seeing on TV compared to making fun of Cena's shirts.

Cena responded on Twitter with exactly the same old stuff he's been saying since the start. Which seems like a lame comeback compared to this video.

Oh you're right, now he made fun of the armbands instead of the shirts. Such a drastic change. The video was about 7 minutes too long.

Everyone is still in love with The Rock because of what he used to be. He isn't that anymore. He hasn't shown anything in any of his promos except the ability to regurgitate the exact same things over and over and over. Look them up. Theres only what, 4 of them? They are all exactly the same, besides the 20 minutes he got to waste at Wrestlemania.

Now, Cena isn't doing much better, but its hard for him to have material for The Rock when 'Dwayne' isn't around. Heres the thing about that though: You've had Cena, Orton, and CM Punk all tell you how The Rock is lying to the fans, etc. Why does him saying 'I've already done it!' make it ok for you? He said 'I'm never leaving again' ... so he can't do a promo from his house every month to be shown on Raw? Why not?

[+Nik Louch Subscriber²]

Everyone is still in love with The Rock because of what he used to be. He isn't that anymore. He hasn't shown anything in any of his promos except the ability to regurgitate the exact same things over and over and over. Look them up. Theres only what, 4 of them? They are all exactly the same, besides the 20 minutes he got to waste at Wrestlemania.

THIS * 100000

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Cena responded on Twitter with exactly the same old stuff he's been saying since the start. Which seems like a lame comeback compared to this video.

I just read what Cena replied on Twitter. A lot of them were actually really good.

?CeNation. Just saw Dwayne?s statement. Via satellite of course. Sad, really. It was like an episode of mad money.?

?I wonder if GLAAD will be offended by Dwayne?s comments.?

?Either way..looks like I have really made him mad. But, certainly not mad enough to show up and do anything. Maybe he can send a stuntman.?

?Dwayne. I am a WWE employee, and a proud one. The difference between us is you left for ?greener pastures?. For me?this is what I love.?

?I have never begged for anyones admiration or acceptance, u don?t believe me..watch MITB. Its not about that. Its about showing up.?

Id rather wrestle a thousand ?punks? than one ?rock?. Because I can see his passion. Wish I could see yours?yer just never there. :)

?Until april 1st. Keep on bringing it my man. You?re doing great. Your friend John Cena:?

He always hits on how much he loves the business and the fans, regardless of what reaction he gets. And thats why he should be respected. Whos more polarizing than Cena? No one. He's going to be booed out of the building on Sunday, but I'm sure he will still tell a great story in the ring. Its kind of a dry-run for the WM match, because Cena will be booed out of the building in Miami too.

[red.]

Oh you're right, now he made fun of the armbands instead of the shirts. Such a drastic change. The video was about 7 minutes too long.

Everyone is still in love with The Rock because of what he used to be. He isn't that anymore. He hasn't shown anything in any of his promos except the ability to regurgitate the exact same things over and over and over. Look them up. Theres only what, 4 of them? They are all exactly the same, besides the 20 minutes he got to waste at Wrestlemania.

Now, Cena isn't doing much better, but its hard for him to have material for The Rock when 'Dwayne' isn't around. Heres the thing about that though: You've had Cena, Orton, and CM Punk all tell you how The Rock is lying to the fans, etc. Why does him saying 'I've already done it!' make it ok for you? He said 'I'm never leaving again' ... so he can't do a promo from his house every month to be shown on Raw? Why not?

Yes he made fun of the armbands but what i was saying is that he actually tried saying something different compared to his TV promos he's been doing which were all the same thing. In this video he actually tries to address some of what Cena has been saying and actually sounded like it had some passion in it. And it would have been better if he said this stuff on Raw.

And i don't know, Cena's reply was as if he heard that the Rock did a promo and decided to give out a default response. That's all i'm saying.

While i do like the Rock and bored to death of Cena i think you may have me confused with some super hardcore Rock who is defending everything he says. Do i believe that when he says he's never leaving again that he's going to be showing up even semi-regularly? No.

[red.]

He always hits on how much he loves the business and the fans, regardless of what reaction he gets. And thats why he should be respected. Whos more polarizing than Cena? No one. He's going to be booed out of the building on Sunday, but I'm sure he will still tell a great story in the ring. Its kind of a dry-run for the WM match, because Cena will be booed out of the building in Miami too.

While that is admirable and a reason to respect Cena as a person, that's exactly why his character bores the hell out of me. It just feels so bland.

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While that is admirable and a reason to respect Cena as a person, that's exactly why his character bores the hell out of me. It just feels so bland.

If you're bored with Cena, why aren't you bored with the Rock? He's just as bland. Its probably because you only get tiny doses of him. Cena you see every week.

[red.]

If you're bored with Cena, why aren't you bored with the Rock? He's just as bland. Its probably because you only get tiny doses of him. Cena you see every week.

Probably because the Rock was both a heel and a face so his character actually said something interesting at times. And i don't remember him being booked like Super Cena.

[Nerd Rage]

If you're bored with Cena, why aren't you bored with the Rock? He's just as bland. Its probably because you only get tiny doses of him. Cena you see every week.

Layeth the Smack down, eating pie, shoving boots up candy asses.....to me those are funny and entertaining regardless of how much I hear them.........however, hustle, loyalty, respect.....those are generic terms so the guy actually has something to talk about. The only time I have ever remotely liked Cena is when he actually got creative when fighting back against the Rock in the "rap" style promo where he told the Rock to "blow me". That was the only time where he appeared to have a backbone.

EDIT: I agree that the Rock was never booked like Super Cena. There were so many stars in the Attitude era, the Rock could legitimately lose to Stone Cold, HHH, Undertaker, Mankind, etc etc. Super Cena can't lose a fair match to anyone with the exception of maybe Randy Orton if they were currently feuding.

[MightyJordan]

Probably because the Rock was both a heel and a face so his character actually said something interesting at times. And i don't remember him being booked like Super Cena.

Well, Cena has been a heel before as well. I mean a proper heel, not like now, where he's essentially a tweener.

Remember the beginning of his rap gimmick?

[Lingwo]

I remember his debut on smackdown. He just wrestled in green pants haha. Back then i thought he was rubbish too.