Recommended Posts

Well, Cena has been a heel before as well. I mean a proper heel, not like now, where he's essentially a tweener.

Remember the beginning of his rap gimmick?

Yes i remember his heel gimmick at the start when he feuded with Brock but that seems like a hell of a long time ago.

I wish he was even half as entertaining now as he was back then.

Layeth the Smack down, eating pie, shoving boots up candy asses.....to me those are funny and entertaining regardless of how much I hear them.........however, hustle, loyalty, respect.....those are generic terms so the guy actually has something to talk about. The only time I have ever remotely liked Cena is when he actually got creative when fighting back against the Rock in the "rap" style promo where he told the Rock to "blow me". That was the only time where he appeared to have a backbone.

EDIT: I agree that the Rock was never booked like Super Cena. There were so many stars in the Attitude era, the Rock could legitimately lose to Stone Cold, HHH, Undertaker, Mankind, etc etc. Super Cena can't lose a fair match to anyone with the exception of maybe Randy Orton if they were currently feuding.

I'm not saying that Rock isn't entertaining, just that he always says the same exact things.

Cena's shirts may say 'Hustle, Loyalty, Respect' but its not like he says those in promos. Other people bring them up, not him.

The booking is not Cena's fault. He doesn't decide that stuff. Thats creative, the bookers, the writers, etc. Can't hold that against him. They had a better creative staff in the Attitude era. Although, Austin never lost clean either. Nor Hogan. And regardless of anyone's opinion on The Rock, when he and Austin were both touring, Austin was 1a, and The Rock was 1b.

My point is this: The Rock was a great character. A legend.

The character we've seen this year and in that promo isn't 'The Rock' anymore. It has a lot more Dwayne Johnson in it than it ever did before.

I'm not saying that Rock isn't entertaining, just that he always says the same exact things.

Cena's shirts may say 'Hustle, Loyalty, Respect' but its not like he says those in promos. Other people bring them up, not him.

The booking is not Cena's fault. He doesn't decide that stuff. Thats creative, the bookers, the writers, etc. Can't hold that against him. They had a better creative staff in the Attitude era. Although, Austin never lost clean either. Nor Hogan. And regardless of anyone's opinion on The Rock, when he and Austin were both touring, Austin was 1a, and The Rock was 1b.

My point is this: The Rock was a great character. A legend.

The character we've seen this year and in that promo isn't 'The Rock' anymore. It has a lot more Dwayne Johnson in it than it ever did before.

Yeah, I know Hogan was a nightmare from what I have read. He wouldn't compete in a match unless the outcome was what he wanted. I wonder how much influence Cena has in the creative.

Agree about the bookers and the writers thing completely which i why i'm actually pretty excited about MITB because for the first time in a long time i've been interested in a storyline. Although that's mainly down to Punk.

Yeah, I know Hogan was a nightmare from what I have read. He wouldn't compete in a match unless the outcome was what he wanted. I wonder how much influence Cena has in the creative.

I don't think Cena is anything like Hogan in that regard. I just think he's a company guy and willing to go with whatever they want.

If you're bored with Cena, why aren't you bored with the Rock? He's just as bland. Its probably because you only get tiny doses of him. Cena you see every week.

The Rock was not bland when he was on the show every week. He was consistently funny and said different things weekly. He's still not bland now either. Cena isn't often funny which is the main reason I still prefer The Rock. I do like Cena a lot though.

Yeah, I know Hogan was a nightmare from what I have read. He wouldn't compete in a match unless the outcome was what he wanted. I wonder how much influence Cena has in the creative.

Again, Hogan and Austin never losing clean has a lot to do with the creative staff not wanting them to look weak.

Cena does have some creative influence (he asked for the feud with Punk, by all accounts) but its not like he can decide whats going to happen. The writers give them the outcome, not the other way around.

The Rock was not bland when he was on the show every week. He was consistently funny and said different things weekly. He's still not bland now either. Cena isn't often funny which is the main reason I still prefer The Rock. I do like Cena a lot though.

Thats exactly my point though. This isn't the same character, and that 11 minute video just proves it.

Agree about the bookers and the writers thing completely which i why i'm actually pretty excited about MITB because for the first time in a long time i've been interested in a storyline. Although that's mainly down to Punk.

MiTB should be a great PPV. You have the two ladder matches, and both world title matches should be great as well.

Thats exactly my point though. This isn't the same character, and that 11 minute video just proves it.

But episode, do you not think this may just be something set up by either those two guys or the company? I mean the Rock's reply here was to Cena making a comment on a WWE tour to Australia last week which seemed completely random seeing as he's involved in a feud with Punk at the moment. Just the timing seems strange.

Cena does have some creative influence (he asked for the feud with Punk, by all accounts) but its not like he can decide whats going to happen. The writers give them the outcome, not the other way around.

I'm not sure if Cena or the Rock were/are the same way, but I've read many stories about Hogan and Austin refusing to go out for matches if they outcome wasnt to their liking. The original plan when Hogan came back to WWE was for him to feud with Austin back in the day, but the two couldn't agree on an outcome, at least that's what "inside sources" said. Quite a shame, would have been a good one :)

I definitely can't wait for MITB though, I've got tickets for it this weekend right along the ramp, so it should be a good time. I've got my custom Zack Ryder T-shirt too, so hopefully I get on TV, lol.

But episode, do you not think this may just be something set up by either those two guys or the company? I mean the Rock's reply here was to Cena making a comment on a WWE tour to Australia last week which seemed completely random seeing as he's involved in a feud with Punk at the moment. Just the timing seems strange.

No its definitely storyline and part of the feud. Its just same old **** is all. He used to be original every promo, while still including his catchphrases. Now he just says the same exact things.

I believe thats whats going to happen as well.

It would be a great addition to the current storyline if they play out Christian's reaction well :)

Thats exactly my point though. This isn't the same character, and that 11 minute video just proves it.

I suppose I can't really disagree with you until I see more of him. Unfortunately, we haven't seen much of what he used to do, including hilarious interviews with the backstage interviewers.

Epic PPV best in years. Daniel Bryan winning the Smackdown MiTB was downright shocking. Every match was entertaining, even Show and Henry and the divas. But Cena and Punk told an epic story in their 45 minutes of work. Truly a great match. Couple botched spots, but it showed that Cena does have the ability to do more when the it's what the storyline calls for. Can't wait to see where they go from here.

Yeah when the crowd was chanting "You can't wrestle" at Cena I was laughing. Regardless, that was an epic match and a damn good PPV. I'd say it ranks up there with some of WWE's best PPV's ever in fact. ADR winning the RAW MitB wasn't to out of the blue, but Daniel Bryan wining the Smackdown MitB match was a shock (though not out of the blue). Of course, the biggest shocker of the night (other than the Cena/Punk ending) was Christian winning back the World Title from Orton. Will the Internet Wrestling Community (IWC lol) finally shut up now that Christian won the title back and he's a 2 TIME 2 TIME champ? Probably not.

As for the Divas match, I can't help but think that entire division (lol) is in total shambles because of Awesome Kong disappearing for 9 months now. It's like they don't know what to do with whom and just figured Kelly Kelly would be ideal right now (which she isn't, Gail Kim should be the top of the ladder in that division).

Anyways, back to Punk etc. I think the fact that Colt Cobana was ON SCREEN last night (among other things) tells the tale with this one. I think WWE and ROH are going to be working together on this one. How it plays out, who knows. I certainly expect Punk to be on RAW tonight, but I wouldn't be surprised if ADR shows up in ROH to take on Punk for the title. Should be interesting to say the least. If WWE doesn't screw it up that is...

Will the Internet Wrestling Community (IWC lol) finally shut up now that Christian won the title back and he's a 2 TIME 2 TIME champ? Probably not.

I'd just like to say that I'm not part of that section of the IWC; I wanted them to stop giving Christian title shots! :p

And finally...

CM PUNK! CM PUNK! CM PUNK! CM PUNK! CM PUNK!

:woot: :woot: :woot: :woot: :woot: :woot: :woot: :woot: :woot: :woot: :woot: :woot: :woot: :woot: :woot: :woot: :woot: :woot: :woot: :woot: :woot: :woot: :woot: :woot: :woot:

20110717_mitb_cmpunk6_r.jpg

Hey I love Christian, so I'm happy he won the title back again. But a ton of IWC people went ape **** when he lost the title to Orton and figured that was the end of Christians main event push for the rest of his career etc. Well, he's champ again but who knows what's going to happen now. Vince doesn't think Christian is a main eventer or a money maker to be blunt. At least that's what the IWC kept saying. Well, now what? Why would Vince give him the title again if he thinks that?

Sin Cara suspended for first wellness policy violation

STAMFORD, Conn., July 18, 2011 ? In accordance with its Talent Wellness Program,

WWE (NYSE:WWE) has suspended Luis Ignascio Urive Alvirde (Sin Cara?) for 30 days for his first violation of the company?s policy.

Source: WWE.com

My thoughts:

I'm shocked about this one, but I don't know why.

Hey I love Christian, so I'm happy he won the title back again. But a ton of IWC people went ape **** when he lost the title to Orton and figured that was the end of Christians main event push for the rest of his career etc. Well, he's champ again but who knows what's going to happen now. Vince doesn't think Christian is a main eventer or a money maker to be blunt. At least that's what the IWC kept saying. Well, now what? Why would Vince give him the title again if he thinks that?

Yeah, I've no idea why people are freaking out over Christian. The only reason he won the title in the first place was because Edge was forced to retire. They couldn't just hand the title to Alberto del Rio like that, so instead, they decided to knock up a new rivalry (Christian/Orton), but it's just getting ridiculous now.

Let's be honest, if Edge didn't have to retire, Christian would never have had a world title reign simple because he's worked for "the enemy", A.K.A. TNA. It's probably the same reason why R-Truth still isn't a world champion, although unlike Christian, he didn't leave WWE for TNA and then come back; he made it big in TNA, then WWE signed him.

Yeah when the crowd was chanting "You can't wrestle" at Cena I was laughing. Regardless, that was an epic match and a damn good PPV. I'd say it ranks up there with some of WWE's best PPV's ever in fact. ADR winning the RAW MitB wasn't to out of the blue, but Daniel Bryan wining the Smackdown MitB match was a shock (though not out of the blue). Of course, the biggest shocker of the night (other than the Cena/Punk ending) was Christian winning back the World Title from Orton. Will the Internet Wrestling Community (IWC lol) finally shut up now that Christian won the title back and he's a 2 TIME 2 TIME champ? Probably not.

As for the Divas match, I can't help but think that entire division (lol) is in total shambles because of Awesome Kong disappearing for 9 months now. It's like they don't know what to do with whom and just figured Kelly Kelly would be ideal right now (which she isn't, Gail Kim should be the top of the ladder in that division).

Anyways, back to Punk etc. I think the fact that Colt Cobana was ON SCREEN last night (among other things) tells the tale with this one. I think WWE and ROH are going to be working together on this one. How it plays out, who knows. I certainly expect Punk to be on RAW tonight, but I wouldn't be surprised if ADR shows up in ROH to take on Punk for the title. Should be interesting to say the least. If WWE doesn't screw it up that is...

They did try to not show Cabana as much as they could, though. Couple of shots purposely left him just off screen.

If the angle is Punk is gone, doesn't that make Del Rio's MiTB worthless? Since there is no Raw title for him to cash in on? I know obviously he resigned, but storyline wise its a strange spot, and I wonder if ADR will address that.

I think they are going to give Cena a couple of months off here, let him rest and recuperate.

Are those beers in his fridge?

Canada Dry ginger ale.

Wow, really Sin Cara? It makes sense though, since coming to WWE, HHH has taken him under his wing so to speak. Probably told him to roid it up. :p

1) HHH handled the whole thing, even before he signed. He was the one that pushed the WWE to get him

2) Rumor is that its pot, not roids.

Yeah, I've no idea why people are freaking out over Christian. The only reason he won the title in the first place was because Edge was forced to retire. They couldn't just hand the title to Alberto del Rio like that, so instead, they decided to knock up a new rivalry (Christian/Orton), but it's just getting ridiculous now.

Let's be honest, if Edge didn't have to retire, Christian would never have had a world title reign simple because he's worked for "the enemy", A.K.A. TNA. It's probably the same reason why R-Truth still isn't a world champion, although unlike Christian, he didn't leave WWE for TNA and then come back; he made it big in TNA, then WWE signed him.

The reason everyone was so upset is because the first title win for Christian was a big moment. Everyone enjoyed it. And then he loses it in his first match, on a taped show, two days later. They never even gave him a chance to prove he could hold the title and portray a champion. He'll get up to Summerslam this time before he loses it to Orton again.

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    • No registered users viewing this page.
  • Posts

    • EA launches in-game advertising platform for brands to "connect with audiences" by Pulasthi Ariyasinghe The gaming giant Electronic Arts is exploring more ways to inject real-life brands into its games. Announced today as EA Advertising, the new platform is attempting to make it easier for brands to reach out for deals with the company and put their products inside titles like EA Sports FC, Madden, NHL, Skate, or The Sims. EA revealed that its EA Sports side of the company brings in "hundreds of millions of players across console, PC, and mobile" every year. Fan engagement of these titles was also touted as being "extraordinary," with 23,000 NFL seasons worth of games being played in Madden NFL daily, while EA Sports FC sees over a billion matches a day. “Players come to EA’s games and live experiences every day to play, watch, create and connect,” said David Tinson, Chief Experiences Officer at Electronic Arts. “That gives brands a meaningful opportunity to show up in ways that add value and respect the player experience, while maintaining authenticity in the worlds our teams are building. With EA Advertising, we’re helping brands become part of those moments in ways that are relevant and built for players.” Using the new program EA Advertising, brands will be able to inject their products into games in real-time via dynamic placement. EA says partners will have access to everything from stadium signage in sports games and targeted adverts to in-game content custom-made for the brands. These are described as additions designed to "enhance, not disrupt" experiences. "In these interactive gameplay environments, brands become part of the game itself, reflecting how players engage with advertising in real-world contexts," adds the company "Brands can activate across live environments, tailoring placements to meet campaign objectives, and update campaigns with ongoing optimization informed by aggregated engagement insights." Current real-world brand partnerships EA has built into its games include Visa (EA Sports FC and College Football), Lowe's (EA Sports FC, Madden NFL, and College Football), Red Bull (EA SPORTS FC), Xfinity and Peacock (EA SPORTS FC), and Mountain Dew’s (College Football).
    • Will be surprised if there isn't a new ver of youtube just for labelled educational content
    • UK to ban under-16s from social media following a six-week trial with teenagers by Paul Hill Credit: Pexels A few months ago, Neowin reported that the UK was trialing a social media ban with 300 teenagers for six weeks, that testing has come to an end, and Prime Minister Keir Starmer has announced that the country will ban under-16s from social media. Starmer said that this technology is making children unhappy and making it easier for bullies to harass and abuse them. He continued to talk about the addictive nature of social media, saying that it uses an infinite scroll designed to lock users in for hours. He said this interferes with children doing their homework, reading, playing with friends outside, and going to bed on time. Tackling the idea that nothing can be done about social media, Starmer said: The government’s action won’t stop at social media either, the PM said. It plans to take action on gaming services and livestreaming platforms. Right now, he said, strangers can contact any child unchecked. He said this wouldn’t happen in real life, and the government is going to stop it from happening online, too. The Labour government has overseen the introduction of the Online Safety Act, a big change to the internet which includes age verification on adult websites. This has led to a fair bit of backlash, but overall, the government is pushing ahead with these changes.
    • Still using Hexchat every day but i would not consider it Retro 😛
    • HONOR Robot Phone unveils first Cinematic Video at Shanghai International Film Festival by Steven Parker Global AI device ecosystem company HONOR announced on June 13 that its revolutionary HONOR Robot Phone made its professional imaging debut at the 28th Shanghai International Film Festival (SIFF), demonstrating the result of its mobile videography capabilities for the first time. As the official mobile photography and videography partner of the 28th Shanghai International Film Festival, HONOR empowers this premier cinematic event with cutting-edge mobile imaging technology. Marking the global debut of the first cinematic video it captured, Robot Phone breaks down the boundaries between mobile imaging and professional filmmaking, ushering in a new paradigm for the deep integration of technology and cinematic art. In the video published on HONOR’s official channel (above), Robot Phone was used byELLEMEN to capture cinematic video portraits for the SIFF jury members. With its exceptional stability and cinema-grade imaging capabilities, the device redefines the art of portrait filmmaking, faithfully reproducing the rich tonal gradations and nuanced color transitions associated with film photography. The result is a new level of visual sophistication, creating high-end cinematic imagery that seamlessly blends atmosphere with narrative tension. The video released for the Robot Phone showcases the powerful stabilization capabilities of its built-in gimbal system, delivering exceptionally smooth handheld camera movement while preserving full image quality. By minimizing reliance on electronic image stabilization, the device effectively avoids the image cropping and quality loss typically associated with digital stabilization methods. Representing an innovative leap in form factor, the HONOR Robot Phone features the industry's smallest titanium alloy gimbal, delivering ultra-precision, extreme flexibility, and superior stability. Driven by high-performance motors, the gimbal rises dynamically, breaking free from the physical limitations of traditional camera modules. Combined with advanced AI algorithms that enable intelligent object tracking and various movements with stable shots, the device significantly simplifies video creation and reshapes both the equipment choices and creative habits of modern users. Notably, the Robot Phone will be the first product that features the results of HONOR's strategic technological partnership with ARRI, the world-renowned designer and manufacturer of professional camera technology for cinematic storytelling. From Cannes to Shanghai, the HONOR Robot Phone continues to lead the mobile imaging industry into an entirely new stage of development. Moving forward, HONOR will leverage cutting-edge AI and mobile imaging technologies to unlock new creative possibilities and extend cinematic standards for visual expression from the world of high-end filmmaking to the next generation of content creators. Learn more about the HONOR Robot Phone here: https://www.honor.com/global/events/honor-robot-phone/
  • Recent Achievements

    • Week One Done
      Jeroen Wilms earned a badge
      Week One Done
    • Week One Done
      rolfus earned a badge
      Week One Done
    • One Month Later
      Leroy Jethro Gibbs earned a badge
      One Month Later
    • Conversation Starter
      flexorcist earned a badge
      Conversation Starter
    • One Month Later
      AndreaB earned a badge
      One Month Later
  • Popular Contributors

    1. 1
      +primortal
      511
    2. 2
      +Edouard
      200
    3. 3
      PsYcHoKiLLa
      137
    4. 4
      ATLien_0
      89
    5. 5
      Steven P.
      84
  • Tell a friend

    Love Neowin? Tell a friend!