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Shelf below.

They do look like Coronas.

[LOC Veteran]

Well doing pot isn't so bad compared to roids and um, other things I suppose. But still, I hope he doesn't turn into another RVD lol

And before anyone goes and says that Punk hasn't resigned (and I don't mean anyone here mind you, I think we all know what's going on by now), Vince wouldn't give his biggest most important title to someone who won't resign or would go to another company after 90 days. Plus, if the WWE is working with ROH on this one, that's a plus plus for both companies. Hopefully it means TNA - er Impact Wrestling will have to kick it up a notch as well. ROH has great wrestling talents, and great matches, but no one sees them. TNA has great matches and talent as well, but thanks to Hogan and the way the company is being run no one watches them anymore either. Heh.

I truly wonder what they are going to do with Christian now though. He's obviously going to have the title until Summerslam now (if he loses it on Friday's show that'll be moronic and I would side with the IWC on that one) but what to do with Orton? He went "nuts" so to speak after he lost, so is he going to go back to his evil Viper deal or totally heel? Which wouldn't work since Christian is a heel now. Turn Christian face? That might work, but they might need Edge for that one :D

I honestly can't wait for Awesome Kong aka Karma to come back to WWE already. Is that odd? :|

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^ Orton is a tweener, been that way for a while.

[MightyJordan]

I truly wonder what they are going to do with Christian now though. He's obviously going to have the title until Summerslam now (if he loses it on Friday's show that'll be moronic and I would side with the IWC on that one) but what to do with Orton? He went "nuts" so to speak after he lost, so is he going to go back to his evil Viper deal or totally heel? Which wouldn't work since Christian is a heel now. Turn Christian face? That might work, but they might need Edge for that one :D

Actually, if the crowd at MITB is anything to go by, we might have a double turn; Christian as a face, and Orton as a hell (but as episode said, Orton is more of a tweener). There was quite a pop when Orton got DQ'ed and Christian won the title.

I honestly can't wait for Awesome Kong aka Karma to come back to WWE already. Is that odd? :|

I can't wait for her to return either. It's just a shame the beginning of her WWE career didn't go that well. Never wrestled a single match (possibly because she was pregnant at the time, but we've no idea when she actually became pregnant; maybe it was in April when the promos started airing). I'm glad WWE's kept her on though, because, despite the old addage that big wrestlers can't wrestle (The Great Khali, for example), she's definitely one of the most talented Divas in WWE at the moment. It's just a shame that we'll have to wait until May 2012 (around that time) to see her in action. :( On the bright side, at least they set up a rivalry with the Bella Twins just before she left. :)

[LOC Veteran]

^ Orton is a tweener, been that way for a while.

Yeah I know he's a tweener and has been for awhile (thanks WWE universe!) but last night he had on his "I'm insane and going to punt your head off" look (and those eyeeeeesssss!). That's what I meant, I'm not sure what they were trying to go for with his character last night. Probably nothing will come of it and he'll be the same.

[MightyJordan]

Yeah I know he's a tweener and has been for awhile (thanks WWE universe!) but last night he had on his "I'm insane and going to punt your head off" look (and those eyeeeeesssss!). That's what I meant, I'm not sure what they were trying to go for with his character last night. Probably nothing will come of it and he'll be the same.

Yeah, pretty much that. Orton is one of few wrestlers who can act like a complete psycho and still be cheered by the fans.

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Yeah I know he's a tweener and has been for awhile (thanks WWE universe!) but last night he had on his "I'm insane and going to punt your head off" look (and those eyeeeeesssss!). That's what I meant, I'm not sure what they were trying to go for with his character last night. Probably nothing will come of it and he'll be the same.

I doubt its a character change. Smackdown needs main event faces (which is why Christian's heel turn was so poorly thought out), can't really push Orton more heel. Its why Daniel Bryan won the MiTB match, to try and build a real main event face for SD.

[MightyJordan]

Its why Daniel Bryan won the MiTB match, to try and build a real main event face for SD.

Also to give Daniel Bryan the push he deserves. :) They're listening to the fans more and more now. Shame they weren't listening when Shelton Benjamin was around.

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Also to give Daniel Bryan the push he deserves. :) They're listening to the fans more and more now. Shame they weren't listening when Shelton Benjamin was around.

Speaking of those two, I saw a Shelton Benjamin vs Daniel Bryan match about a year ago in a dinky high school gym. Was a great match. Was also Bryan's last indie match.

I don't think it has as much to do with what he deserves as to that they have nowhere else to go. Everyone they've built up on SD is a heel. Rhodes, Barrett, Henry, Sheamus ... only other faces of any note are Orton and Sin Cara. And Sin Cara can't talk on the mic, so he can't be Mr MiTB, unless he was to cash in right away. Don't get me wrong, I love it that Bryan won, but it was more of a need than a want for him to win. MiTB winners work best as heels, because they can cash in at any time. I guarantee that when Bryan cashes in, he will set the time and place for the match and not have it be 'right now'.

[MightyJordan]

Speaking of those two, I saw a Shelton Benjamin vs Daniel Bryan match about a year ago in a dinky high school gym. Was a great match. Was also Bryan's last indie match.

Is it this one, by any chance? :)

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Yes!

[Y2Stu]

TMZ have some pics of CM Punk celebrating with the belt with himself, Colt Cabana and Ace Steel.

http://www.tmz.com/2011/07/18/wwe-champ-celebrates-on-the-chicago-streets-cm-punk-colt-cabana-ace-steel-john-cena-mike-ditka-money-in-the-bank-title-pepsi/

[LOC Veteran]

Earlier today, we reported that WWE Smackdown star Sin Cara has been suspended from WWE for 30 days due to a violation of the Wellness Policy.

PWInsider.com is reporting that the suspension was known about as early as June 20th, however it's just now being announced. Sin Cara reportedly tested positive for anabolic steriods.

Additionally, although the suspension is for 30 days, F4WOnline.com is reporting that there is a possibility Sin Cara will NOT be brought back to WWE TV when his suspension has been lifted.

[Y2Stu]

wow that was a heavy ending, i did not expect that

What a great storyline, wonder what happens now?

[Calum Veteran]

I was actually hoping Triple H would come out to tell Vince he's fired instead and that he will be taking over, yet I'm still shocked it happened because I just didn't expect them to do it as much as I was hoping for it. Great ending, and not bad acting by Trips and Vince.

[MightyJordan]

OK, who wants to bet that in an act of revenge, Vince "buys" Ring of Honor, then invades WWE? I could see that happening if they've actually struck a deal.

[Gio Takahashi]

I gotta say, that was a very heavy and well done acting and ending of this week's Raw. That was a pretty emotional moment there.

[Calum Veteran]

OK, who wants to bet that in an act of revenge, Vince "buys" Ring of Honor, then invades WWE? I could see that happening if they've actually struck a deal.

That might be cool if done right, but I don't see how they could justify Vince doing that because apparently Vince has no power now. If Vince has no power, how could he invade WWE? He would have money to buy ROH, but he wouldn't even be able to get in the building.

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That might be cool if done right, but I don't see how they could justify Vince doing that because apparently Vince has no power now. If Vince has no power, how could he invade WWE? He would have money to buy ROH, but he wouldn't even be able to get in the building.

Someone missed the WCW buyout and later 'invasion'.

Storyline was that Shane bought WCW out from under Vince and things went from there.

I think the segment last night was Vince's retirement from on-screen appearances.

[LOC Veteran]

X-Pac posted on twitter that Vince being relieved from his duties was "real" because the WWE board thinks he is mentally unfit now (lol, like he ever was mentally fit)

Kinda ticked I missed RAW last night, but I'll catch it today and see how that ending went. But, is CM Punk NOT the champion now, or he just has the old spinner belt and will return "as champ" who was never beat for it down the road? :|

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X-Pac posted on twitter that Vince being relieved from his duties was "real" because the WWE board thinks he is mentally unfit now (lol, like he ever was mentally fit)

No, Waltman just tweeted that Vince stepping down was real. Not the reason given. He's just not going to be an on air character anymore. He is still Chairman of WWE.

Kinda ticked I missed RAW last night, but I'll catch it today and see how that ending went. But, is CM Punk NOT the champion now, or he just has the old spinner belt and will return "as champ" who was never beat for it down the road? :|

Obviously with Punk tweeting all kinds of pictures of the belt (him at Wrigley yesterday, etc), it is all storyline, and he will come back with it at some point.

[LOC Veteran]

No, Waltman just tweeted that Vince stepping down was real. Not the reason given. He's just not going to be an on air character anymore. He is still Chairman of WWE.

Obviously with Punk tweeting all kinds of pictures of the belt (him at Wrigley yesterday, etc), it is all storyline, and he will come back with it at some point.

I know he's still Chairman of WWE and it's all a storyline. Waltman tweeting about it is just odd to me that's all.

And Punk is obviously going to return, what I meant was how will he return storyline wise. :)

[LOC Veteran]

WWE Chairman Vince McMahon was reportedly "shocked into silence" when the overnight household ratings for Monday Night Raw came in at a 3.2 yesterday at the Smackdown tapings.

According to a key WWE insider who was backstage, "Vince did his best to no-sell the news, but the entire atmosphere of the backstage area changed once Vince was told of the rating."

WrestleZone was also told, "It seems like Vince and the upper echelon really believed this latest surge in excitement based on the CM Punk angle would really pop the ratings. The slow build back up is really scary for a lot of people right now. There's not an overflow of patience running around in WWE."

As seen on WWE Raw this week, Triple H came out, confronted Vince McMahon, and "relieved him of his duties." While this was of course an angle booked for the show, many have speculated that Triple H taking over for Vince on Raw was symbolic of things to come in the real future of WWE.

F4WOnline.com is reporting that at this point the backstage plan in WWE calls for Vince McMahon to remain in his current role until WrestleMania 28, at which time Triple H will begin to slowly take over some of McMahon's top duties in the company. It's being said, however, that while Triple H is eventually set to take over for Vince, it won't be a complete transfer of power, as McMahon is expected to continue to oversee the corporate structure of WWE as well as have a hand in the company's creative direction.

Amidst speculation that The Rock might appear at this year's WWE Survivor Series PPV, due to a Tweet posted by the former WWE Champ last week, WrestleZone has learned exclusively that Dwayne Johnson is indeed confirmed to appear at this year's annual PPV.

Additionally, WZ has learned that WWE is planning a huge media campaign to support The Rock's appearance at Survivor Series 2011, which will take place at Madison Square Garden. "With SummerSlam taking place in Los Angeles, WWE is going to go all out to promote Rock at MSG," a key WWE insider told us this evening.

"(WWE Chairman) Vince (McMahon) really wants to exploit The Rock's mainstream credibility to the max with this major pay-per-view appearance, which will officially kick off the direct push into Rock vs Cena at WrestleMania 28."

Source: F4WOnline.com

As a result of Smackdown star Sin Cara's WWE future coming into question due to his recent suspension, it's being reported that Rey Mysterio is slated for a major push heading into SummerSlam. In fact, it's being said that something rather huge is being planned for Rey at the SummerSlam PPV and the next night's Raw, which emanates from Rey's hometown of San Diego, CA.

In related SummerSlam news, it's being reported that Randy Orton vs Christian for the World Heavyweight Title, in a no-disqualification match, is being discussed for the annual PPV.

Daniel Bryan announced at tonight's WWE Smackdown taping that he is going to wait until WrestleMania 28 to cash in his Money in the Bank briefcase, thus ensuring he will have a main event match at the big event.

All from Wrestlezone.com

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The ratings ... its summer, its nice all over. They shouldn't really be too bothered.

HHH's duties ... kind of obvious, no?

Rock at Survivor Series... he said as much himself in that video, why does it need to be re-reported by an 'insider'?

I hope we don't need another Rey title reign. I hate him so much. If he does win, I hope Del Rio cashes and destroys the little chihuahua.

The spoiler ... great news.

[LOC Veteran]

The ratings ... its summer, its nice all over. They shouldn't really be too bothered.

HHH's duties ... kind of obvious, no?

Rock at Survivor Series... he said as much himself in that video, why does it need to be re-reported by an 'insider'?

I hope we don't need another Rey title reign. I hate him so much. If he does win, I hope Del Rio cashes and destroys the little chihuahua.

The spoiler ... great news.

It's summer yes, but it's also 9 billion degrees out (In I'd imagine most of the world at this point lol) and on a hot summer night your either at the movies watching Harry Potter or home playing games or watching TV :D (this is just my opinion of course lol)

HHH, yup pretty obvious. Though like wrestlezone's writers I also feel like a McMahon will ALWAYS be involved in the day to day and creative process (welp guess that only means Steph at this point though)

I think Rock should show up sooner than Survivor Series, certainly not Summer Slam at this point (especially with the Cena storyline ongoing) but maybe the PPV before SSeries, maybe 2 or 3 RAW's before etc. But he won't, and that's fine :)

I don't have a problem with Rey really, but I also don't want to see another title run for him at this point in his career. Everyone complains about Cena and the 5 moves of doom etc with him. Rey has been doing the SAME match for like, a decade now if not more. I mean of course he's more agile and not a "big" wrestler but come on already. I know he's popular with the kids but really. I don't mind him in the main event picture, but please no title.

Spoiler, yup great news. WWE is smart with that one.