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[MightyJordan]

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[shawnsdada]

He was definitely on steroids, obviously. And whats one side effect of steroids? They #### up your heart.

I never said he never used steroids. I have no clue if he did. I was just commenting on how people are jumping straight to steroid use as if that's all it could be.

Nobody knows until that autopsy is done. Yet people throw it out there as if it's fact.

[Praetor]

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:cry:

[episode]

I never said he never used steroids. I have no clue if he did. I was just commenting on how people are jumping straight to steroid use as if that's all it could be.

Nobody knows until that autopsy is done. Yet people throw it out there as if it's fact.

 

Steroids cause heart issues. He was witnessed clutching his chest as he collapsed. 

Regardless of what you want to believe, steroids played a part in his death, just like it did to Eddie Guerrero and the many other pro wrestlers who have died to heart attacks at relatively young ages.

[DeltaXray]

Ironic I was just reading Bret Harts book and only just got to the but where he was completely slating Warrior, because he would be constantly doing things like deliberately avoiding Make A Wish kids when they were already there waiting for him and stuff.

I'll grab the quote later. I hope he chilled out in later life :/

[NEVER85]

Warrior claimed he quit using steroids in 1991. Since it's Warrior saying it, you take it with a grain of salt, but after being fired that year and then coming back in 1992, he was noticeably smaller, so I can actually believe it.

[riahc3]

A lot of things have passed these days. Wow.

WM:

Didn't watch the preshow match (Right).

Daniel Bryan vs Triple H (Right) - I thought this could be a good match and it was. Triple H did a good match more so for someone that didn't wrestle in a year (more or less). Very good match.

The Shield (Dean Ambrose, Seth Rollins and Roman Reigns) defeated Kane and The New Age Outlaws (Road Dogg and Billy Gunn) (Right) - I was impressed that this match was so quick but it was still a good match by the Shield. OK match although I think the Shield should have been given a bit more time

Cesaro wins Andr? the Giant Memorial Battle Royal (Wrong) - Well, it makes sense that he bodyslammed Big Show over the top rope. Good tribute and we had another Kofi moment (not the best but)

John Cena defeated Bray Wyatt (with Luke Harper and Erick Rowan) (Right) - Well this was a no brainer. The match again Wyatt did awesome but not because of wrestling; Sports entertainment. Cena so/so, should have stepped up his game a bit more but better than other matches

Brock Lesnar (with Paul Heyman) defeated The Undertaker (Wrong) - Im gonna come back to this one because I think its a LONG write up :laugh:

AJ Lee © won the Vickie Guerrero Divas Championship Invitational (Wrong) - Well, a lets take a ###### match but even If you didn't wanna ######, because of the previous match it was completely over shadowed. Irrelevent that the divas suck or not (bad choice of words), this match probably no one really saw as they were thinking in the previous match.

Daniel Bryan defeated Randy Orton © and Batista by submission (Wrong) - Pretty good match. Actually surprised me. Liked Bryan vs Triple H more personally. Also, when I saw UT lose, I knew that Bryan was gonna win this one.

4/8; Well 50% :laugh:

Now:

Brock Lesnar vs. The Undertaker:

I think a lot of people got 9 out of 10 because of this match. I don't even know if Heyman knew Lesnar was gonna win! :laugh:

First off, the match was horrible. I mean, plain and simply, a very bad match. Just a few minutes of focusing on the shoulder, then UT's legs, but thats it. Im not sure if there was planning issues, Undertaker's age, but I expected A LOT more. Very sad Undertaker had to go out this way. I mean, there was barely any actual wrestling/fighting, at all.Lesner was VERY under used. As a matter of fact, I don't even think Lesnar botched the germans; I think that since Undertaker had those reported neck problems in the match, Lesnar made sure he landed on his back. Undertaker thurout the match looked very wary/tired/etc. When he sat up, he just looked tired....old.... He was in WAY better shape last WM. I mean, if it was to end like this, at least put on a good show.

On to Lesnar, its clear Lesnar is not made for sports entertainment and made for real sports like MMA, football, etc. This guy is stiff as hell. Im not complaining about that just stating what I think is a obvious fact.

It was reported that UT fell in the back when he got backstage and when to the hospital with Vince. Its sad that no one went to congratulate Lesnar not for the win, but for the performance he put, as best he could, with UT.

But what really ###### off people is not the end of the streak I think, its, why Lesnar? Yeah, outside of sports entertainment, there is no doubt that Lesnar has accomplished so much outside of the WWE so why should he have this "prize" so to speak? Ive read that UT wanted Lesnar to end it. Is there any source to that? He ask for Lesnar or he just wanted to end it at 30 because he felt he was old? I find it VERY disrespectful to A LOT of guys in the back (and in TNA and retired and anyone else who has dedicated their life to sports entertainment) if UT wanted personally for Lesnar to end it. Lesnar does not deserve that at all.

If this was the route they wanted to go, I would have perfered Sting over Brock.

On to RAW:

Too many promos about NXT guys.

And Paige:

Well Im glad for all of you guys :p but my god, did I just see Casper win the Diva's title? Wow. And she does not look legal. AJ looks like a grown adult next to her. Great body but not only does she need some muscle growth but please send that woman girl child to a solarium! Im even thinking she is whiter than Sheamus.

Also, AJ Lee just buried herself with the "Best Diva in the World" line. Uncalled for. Yeah, she tried to be funny and appeal to the fans but Im sure in the back, that comment wasn't liked at all. You have to separate your personal life and professional life. Also, horrible Paige Turner. AJ Lee sold it like it was the second coming or something :laugh:

Also, now what for Lesnar? Again disappear? But this goes back to the he doesn't deserve it thing again...

I wouldn't mind HHH going back to wrestling. Guy put on a good performance at WM30 considering his age and the time between two matches. As long as he doesn't bury everyone and make himself champion of absolutely everything.

There are small hints of Evolution coming back together. Recycing ideas again?

I saw a picture of this in here: Ive never seen Heyman turn heel to face that quickly :laugh:

Im sure Im missing something but this post is long enough :laugh:

A shame about the Ultimate Warrior, I saw the promo and thought that was actually a pretty decent promo. And the next day, the news about him being dead. I actually didn't believe it at first. He knew that his time was up (sorry Cena) and it was the last time he was gonna be able to do the warrior thing...

[MightyJordan]

Ironic I was just reading Bret Harts book and only just got to the but where he was completely slating Warrior, because he would be constantly doing things like deliberately avoiding Make A Wish kids when they were already there waiting for him and stuff.

I'll grab the quote later. I hope he chilled out in later life :/

Well, I can't speak for the entirety, but there was this one moment where he didn't chill out...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L3H1zao5_ho

[timster]

 

We were all feeling it. Ellis Mbeh was just the first to put a face to it.

 

The now-famous fan whose flabbergasted face appeared on WWE Network after Brock Lesnar defeated The Undertaker at WrestleMania 30, Mbeh?s reaction (the best since Angry Miz Girl in 2010) not only spread across the Internet faster than Grumpy Cat on a jetski, it earned him a catchy ? in an obvious way ? nickname among wrestling fans: ?Shocked Undertaker Guy.?

Hilarious memes and fake Twitter accounts followed in droves, but when WWE.com got in touch with the man himself, what we got was an unexpectedly tender story of a childhood dream fulfilled?one that happened to involve a cameo appearance from Matt Hardy. When you hear it, your jaws just might drop, too.

http://www.wwe.com/inside/shocked-undertaker-fan-speaks-26225224

 

[+Nik Louch Subscriber²]

Steroids cause heart issues. He was witnessed clutching his chest as he collapsed.

 

(partially) correct on first clause.  Correct on second clause.  Logic does not dictate that one is related to the other.

 

Regardless of what you want to believe, steroids played a part in his death, 

 

That is purely what you believe.  No autopsy given.  Hell, he had been flying all over the place, just taken a multi-year ambassador deal, could probably take a few bumps - we have no idea what WWE had said to him ("Hey how about taking a bump from...") so he could have been training.  It's all conjecture.  He has been off steroids now for a LONG time - and while the damage they CAN do is well documented, so is a muscle's (heart) ability to recover.  Stop trying to suggest that your belief is a fact.

[MightyJordan]

[MightyJordan]

And Paige:

Well Im glad for all of you guys :p but my god, did I just see Casper win the Diva's title? Wow. And she does not look legal. AJ looks like a grown adult next to her. Great body but not only does she need some muscle growth but please send that woman girl child to a solarium! Im even thinking she is whiter than Sheamus.

We obviously differ on opinion there; skin tone wise, Paige is my kind of woman. I much prefer a ghost over an Oompa Loompa any day of the week. :P Obviously, I disagree when you say she doesn't look legal and that AJ looks like a grown adult next to her. Paige is considerably taller, for starters (5' 8" vs. 5' 2"; she's only an inch shorter than me, and a year younger for that matter), and I know you said looks, but for me, it's the total package Lex Luger. AJ skips to the ring and throws tantrums; in my opinion, that tips the maturity balance in Paige's favour. :P

 

By the way, you think she looks like a child now? See what she was like when she was 18!

 

 

Quite a difference in just over four years. ;)

 

[riahc3]

We obviously differ on opinion there; skin tone wise, Paige is my kind of woman. I much prefer a ghost over an Oompa Loompa any day of the week. :p Obviously, I disagree when you say she doesn't look legal and that AJ looks like a grown adult next to her. Paige is considerably taller, for starters (5' 8" vs. 5' 2"; she's only an inch shorter than me, and a year younger for that matter), and I know you said looks, but for me, it's the total package Lex Luger. AJ skips to the ring and throws tantrums; in my opinion, that tips the maturity balance in Paige's favour. :p

 

By the way, you think she looks like a child now? See what she was like when she was 18!

 

Quite a difference in just over four years. ;)

So white skin is your type of woman? Well, that is a personal thing. Nothing wrong with that, Ive always said what is wrong with AJ and now Paige but of course, everyone has their tastes

Im not talking about height being related to her looking like a woman. Natalya for example is 5'5" I think and look at the difference

Im not talking chest wise either. Her body frame is more of a woman than AJ and Paige. Im stating exclusively on her body frame, I am aware that she is much older than both AJ and Pagie. AJ and Paige are eye candy, of course. But that's child's play.

Well, at the end of the day, its everyone's person choice. I just never see the obsession over AJ or Paige.

BTW, HHH is gonna be right. Everyone on the AJ bandwagon and now everyone jumps to the Paige bandwagon. No loyalty :shifty:

[Rappy Veteran]

I haven't posted since before WM so here's my thoughts:

Undertaker losing streak is massive BS but I suppose all good things come to an end (Mark Collie - In Time) is used perfectly as well

The rest I thought was awful and I am pleased I waited to the next day to see it.

I am very distressed at Warrior, it probably wouldn't of affected me so much if it happened a year or so ago but I think it's because he had so much airtime over the last 3 days.

[Rappy Veteran]

[MightyJordan]

[Rappy Veteran]

[MightyJordan]

[Rappy Veteran]

Apparently she said on her show Owen Hart died of Steroids :/

[riahc3]

Apparently

Is there a soruce to make up that apparently? :/

[MightyJordan]

Is there a soruce to make up that apparently? :/

http://www.wrestlinginc.com/wi/news/2014/0410/573033/journalist-talks-ultimate-warrior-death-and-insinuates-owen-hart/

[Rappy Veteran]

Is there a soruce to make up that apparently? :/

Twitter blew up when she said it, leading to alot of pro wrestlers (most tweets are nsfw) coming up and destroying her

The best being Sheik as always

https://twitter.com/the_ironsheik/status/454058895238266880

[Rappy Veteran]

From Sting:

Mourning the loss of Jim Hellwig. I don't believe anyone has ever published this picture before today. The snapshot was taken two days before Thanksgiving in 1985, as we prepared to leave my house in Newhall, California and embark on a career in wrestling.

Jim always challenged me to strive at being the best, and I'll forever be grateful for the encouragement and motivation he provided.

I was looking forward to catching up with him, and I'm saddened we didn't have that opportunity before he passed. My heart goes out to his wife Dana and their two daughters, and they will remain in my prayers.

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[Rappy Veteran]

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