Popcorned1 Posted February 25, 2008 Share Posted February 25, 2008 Pakistan removed from the Internet The telecom company that carries most of Pakistan?s traffic, PCCW, has found it necessary to shut Pakistan off from the Internet while they filter out the malicious routes that a Pakistani ISP, PieNet, announced earlier today. Evidently PieNet took this step to enforce a decree from the Pakistani government that ISP?s must block access to YouTube because it was a source of blasphemous content.I cannot let the irony pass with out commenting. A religious state, Pakistan, identifies a content provider, YouTube, as the source of blasphemous, seditious content and orders, King Canute style, that the Internet tides be stopped. A zealous ISP ignorantly decides the best way to comply with the decree is to re-route all of YouTube?s IP addresses to whatever site they thought was more appropriate. The first repercussion was that YouTube disappeared from the Internet for almost an hour. I suspect the second repercussion was that Pakistan?s Internet access crawled to a halt as all of a sudden they were handling IP requests for one of the busiest sites in the world. As of this writing YouTube has announced more granular routes so that at least in the US they supercede the routes announced by PieNet. The rest of the world is still struggling. So, while working on a fix that will filter out the spurious route announcements, PCCW has found it necessary to shut down Pakistan?s Internet access. The leadership of Pakistan just created a massive Denial of Service on their own country. I could say: ?be careful what you wish for? to those elements that object to free and open access to information and expression of ideas. But to put it in terms they might understand better: Do not anger the Internet gods or you will suffer their wrath! Source Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/622058-pakistan-removed-from-the-internet/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
macmax Posted February 25, 2008 Share Posted February 25, 2008 crap thats why i was not able to access youtube yesterday night. works now :D Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/622058-pakistan-removed-from-the-internet/#findComment-589231633 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bdsams Veteran Posted February 25, 2008 Veteran Share Posted February 25, 2008 ha, thats kind of funny! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/622058-pakistan-removed-from-the-internet/#findComment-589231644 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PL_ Veteran Posted February 25, 2008 Veteran Share Posted February 25, 2008 Oh Pakistan, you so crazy! :D Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/622058-pakistan-removed-from-the-internet/#findComment-589231648 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ring0 Posted February 25, 2008 Share Posted February 25, 2008 psht. free speech is overrated anyway. give me locked down religious zealotry any day! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/622058-pakistan-removed-from-the-internet/#findComment-589231651 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferret Posted February 25, 2008 Share Posted February 25, 2008 People will find a way around it eventually. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/622058-pakistan-removed-from-the-internet/#findComment-589231693 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingroach Posted February 25, 2008 Share Posted February 25, 2008 I have heard it has more to do with videos of voting corruption in Pakistan election that happened recently.. There is always something offensive in youtube, if the Pakistani government were really concerned over those then they would do something a long time ago.. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/622058-pakistan-removed-from-the-internet/#findComment-589231711 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azmodan Posted February 25, 2008 Share Posted February 25, 2008 I don't think they can get "around it" simply as that, unless they drop a Cat5e from India to Pakistan (Iran is still without internet?) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/622058-pakistan-removed-from-the-internet/#findComment-589231723 Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Vivicidal- Posted February 25, 2008 Share Posted February 25, 2008 DoS attack on themselves is funny... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/622058-pakistan-removed-from-the-internet/#findComment-589231730 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhon Posted February 25, 2008 Share Posted February 25, 2008 psht. free speech is overrated anyway. give me locked down religious zealotry any day! HAHAHAHA that made me laugh so hard. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/622058-pakistan-removed-from-the-internet/#findComment-589231744 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Echilon Posted February 25, 2008 Share Posted February 25, 2008 If they'd rather retreat to the dark ages than live with free speech, leave them to it. :hmmm: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/622058-pakistan-removed-from-the-internet/#findComment-589231877 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noveed Posted February 25, 2008 Share Posted February 25, 2008 If they'd rather retreat to the dark ages than live with free speech, leave them to it. :hmmm: lol pretty sure the internet is a recent phonomenon, and the dark ages are a long way a way from that. At most they would be going back to the 19th century. Anyways i think it is kind of stupid blocking youtube, arguably the most popular site for video uploads. They should just create a database with youtube links of blasphemous content and filter that out. Its down to personal preference something that looks stupid and silly to one may be important to another. This type of censoring has been done before. China filter and block content all the time, constantly monoitoring blogs etc and wikipedia. (not sure if they are still blocked of not). So if pakistan are doing it for thier own reasons i dont see why there is a problem, dont really here messages like "oh china is going back to the dark ages" when they have been actively doing this for longer. I do not agree with the stance pakistan have over this, to me this is silly. But none the less people will find a way round the ban of youtube. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/622058-pakistan-removed-from-the-internet/#findComment-589231952 Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Kompressor Posted February 26, 2008 Share Posted February 26, 2008 lawl that's funny. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/622058-pakistan-removed-from-the-internet/#findComment-589233451 Share on other sites More sharing options...
magik Posted February 26, 2008 Share Posted February 26, 2008 Bwahaha... idiots. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/622058-pakistan-removed-from-the-internet/#findComment-589233652 Share on other sites More sharing options...
null_ Posted February 26, 2008 Share Posted February 26, 2008 Way to get b***h-slapped back to the 19th century. :D Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/622058-pakistan-removed-from-the-internet/#findComment-589233662 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHALE Posted February 26, 2008 Share Posted February 26, 2008 For me in Mexico, you tube still down :( I wonder if what is happening to Microsoft live services is related to this as well? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/622058-pakistan-removed-from-the-internet/#findComment-589233672 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rapier Posted February 26, 2008 Share Posted February 26, 2008 I'm in pakistan and surely this is the internet or is neowin on something else ? :o And even though youtube was blocked before, its working fine now. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/622058-pakistan-removed-from-the-internet/#findComment-589233686 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niels. Posted February 26, 2008 Share Posted February 26, 2008 Haha, ah the joy. And to think that it all started down here in the Netherlands. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/622058-pakistan-removed-from-the-internet/#findComment-589233704 Share on other sites More sharing options...
include Posted February 27, 2008 Share Posted February 27, 2008 Haha, ah the joy. And to think that it all started down here in the Netherlands. What are you talkin' about?! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/622058-pakistan-removed-from-the-internet/#findComment-589235337 Share on other sites More sharing options...
toadeater Posted February 27, 2008 Share Posted February 27, 2008 If they'd rather retreat to the dark ages than live with free speech, leave them to it. :hmmm: They've got nukes. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/622058-pakistan-removed-from-the-internet/#findComment-589235352 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minifig Posted February 27, 2008 Share Posted February 27, 2008 I wonder what the noise was when the net blipped out over there.. "KER BLIP.." or was it more of a .. "KERBOOM." :laugh: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/622058-pakistan-removed-from-the-internet/#findComment-589235354 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ambiance Posted February 27, 2008 Share Posted February 27, 2008 psht. free speech is overrated anyway. give me locked down religious zealotry any day! :rofl: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/622058-pakistan-removed-from-the-internet/#findComment-589235370 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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