Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots Discussion Thread

[duritz]

i wouldn't mind long cut scenes at all. MGS was the first game I rented for the original PS at Blockbuster. i would sock up every minute because honestly the series is the best set of games I have ever played. the story is actually riveting and close to life. there is just something about MGS that makes it different than all the others.

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Ask any videogame reviewer for their top 10 games of all-time and rather than excited espousal and insight you'll be greeted by eye-rolls and deep sighs. Not that it's passe, it's that the question is so damn difficult. Was the game you may have scored an 80% (Championship Manager, many years ago) actually better than the one you gave 94% (Neverwinter Nights), when you factor in the phenomenal hours committed? Personally I can always supply my top game - Doom - in a heartbeat, then stumble for an eternity over numbers two to ten, swaying titles in and out with each wind change. How special does a title have to be to immediately, unequivocally, make that list? Well so long as I have the faculties to remember the names of 10 games (and count from one to ten), I can guarantee Metal Gear Solid 4 will retain a spot in my top 10, no matter which way the wind is blowing. And I'm willing to bet it'll be similarly revered by PS3 gamers the world over. Yes, it's that special.

I'm keenly aware as I write this that what I say needs to matter to anyone who might be inclined to simply skip a Metal Gear game simply because they haven't been a part of the ebullient fanboyism that has epitomised this series for 20 years. So in that spirit. Hi, my name is Rob, and I am NOT a Metal Gear addict. Playing MGS2 (on PC) was my biggest involvement in the series. I knew some of the characters and backgrounds through editing stories. And still, while MGS4 perfectly wraps up the story entrails left swinging after all the previous games (and in doing so delivers perfectly pitched fan-service), it also has such an open gameplay delivery, and it's presentation is so phenomenal, that any self-respecting PS3 owner should consider it their next purchase.

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Metal Gear MK II, the personality filled robot that you can use to scout ahead if you absolutely, positively must sneak. That's a great tactic on the highest of the four difficulty levels (a fifth brutally tough option opens after you've completed the single-player game for the first time).

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But there's a huge reason why MGS4 is one of the most significant game designs of all time: if you come into the game with no prior MGS knowledge, you'll still uncover one of the most absorbing stories ever told in cutscene vignettes, produced as brilliantly as the medium has ever witnessed.

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Take the time to drink in the information that floods in through the character's dialogue. Only fleetingly does it seem overblown since the acting and direction displayed in each scene is simply outstanding. Whether it's the subtle twitch of Meryl's lips, Snake's jerk back to modern day awareness (already demonstrated in one of the recent trailers)}... every scene is compelling.

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Two acts into this experience you'll think you know what's in store for the rest of the game when it suddenly changes in such a beautiful way that you'll spend a few moments just adjusting to the new environment. Heading into Eastern Europe, If you weren't sure that this was a next-generation game pushing the limits of PS3 hardware before, then the architecture and gameplay moments packed into this act will have you so convinced you'll be calling over your friends, keeping save games for do-overs, and making sure everyone witnesses the staggering visuals.

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The level of interaction with this world is spectacular... An incredible depth of gun customisation options - the ability to add sights, lights and better grips for accuracy - further enhances the myriad of ways of taking a different approach to the world.

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Plug in your Ipod and listen to any of the Metal Gear music (including songs from previous Metal Gear games that you can scavenge from various levels). Yes that's a real Ipod and it controls as a real Ipod would (be sure to listen to Associate Producer Ryan Payton's exclusive ingame podcast).

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MGS4 is special in so many ways that I suspect it will reside amongst the industry's greatest achievements long after we're dust... I've finished it twice now and I highly suspect more play-throughs lie in my future. That, right there, is the hallmark of a game deserving instant recognition in any all-time-top-10 list.

*****

An in-game podcast?! :laugh:

Kojima, what will you think of next...

This and LBP are killing me :(

[Corris Veteran]

19 days, 19 days!

OMG I can't wait.

[Sethos]

19 days, 19 days!

OMG I can't wait.

"And I'm nursing a semi"

[Lauguu]

I have to get my PS3 before it gets released. and a new surround sound system...

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LE on PLAY has sold out it seems! Even at ?80, MGS fans aren't put off:oo

By the way, http://mgsforums.com/ar/t24852.htm

High quality OPM USA Review scans - Not posted yet, it was UK OPM that was.

[richardsim7]

Interesting... :shifty:

-Rich-

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http://www.gametrailers.com/bonusround.php?ep=22&pt=1

Gametrailers MGS4 Bonus round (Part 1 of 4 uploaded)

Guests:

N’Gai Croal

General Editor of Technology, Newsweek

David Hayter

Writer, Actor, Metal Gear Solid Series, X2

Rob Smith

Editor in Chief, PSM

Watch it, the intro is great :D

Edited May 25, 2008 by Audioboxer

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Also check out

GameTrailers Retrospective - Metal Gear

Part 1

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/33740.html

Part 2

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/34187.html

Explains the old nes/snes MG games very well (Y)

Edited May 25, 2008 by Audioboxer

[Lauguu]

Part 3

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/34425.html

[popisdead uk]

Thanks for the info. This game is looking superb.

[Keito]

Gametrailers also has the Japanese TV spots for the different PMC's in the game - I just had to make a sig/ava set :p

[richardsim7]

Awesome, I want the next round of bonus round! :D

That codec intro was awesome :D

-Rich-

[Lauguu]

WOHOO!! just got the Metal Gear Saga Vol.2 and a MGS4 T-Shirt by pre-ordering :p

I Pre-ordered the standard edition and the limited edtion...:D

[Jimmy0]

I just pre-ordered my copy (normal edition).

I also just bought MGS1 for the PS1 from eBay for ?9.60 so I can play through it again (I have it on PC but I can't get it to work so I thought, what the heck!).

[Richard Hammond]

Still waiting for the Part 2 of the Metal Gear Bonus Round, David Hayter is great.

Cant wait for Metal Gear 4, i bought a PS3 just to play it this weekend.

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Still waiting for the Part 2 of the Metal Gear Bonus Round, David Hayter is great.

Cant wait for Metal Gear 4, i bought a PS3 just to play it this weekend.

Hi Hammond.

Top Gear :heart:

[Keito]

Still waiting for the Part 2 of the Metal Gear Bonus Round, David Hayter is great.

Cant wait for Metal Gear 4, i bought a PS3 just to play it this weekend.

you're ****ting me right? Richard Hammond on neowin - freaking awesome :D

I wonder when the second part of the bonus round will be up... does anyone know anything of a release schedule? I'm too lazy to work it out myself by checking the dates of previous ones ^^;

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Video of snake with a girly poster :p

http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=tdr_XA11fjY

[CY:G]

Video of snake with a girly poster :p

http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=tdr_XA11fjY

Uh la la :D, here is hoping you can smooch them like in MGS 2, haha

[sanctified Veteran]

Best game ever probably?

[Lauguu]

Video of snake with a girly poster :p

http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=tdr_XA11fjY

Haha nice... Kojima always know how to make us happy :p

[littlebull]

I gotta get one of those!!

[Sethos]

* PlayStation Official Magazine (UK): 10/10

* PlayStation Official Magazine (US): 10/10

* PlayStation Official Magazine (Italy): 10/10

* PlayStation Official Magazine (Dutch): 9.6/10 <-- Somebody must've been fired :laugh:

* Level (Sweden): 10/10

* Joypad (France): 19/20

* Jeuxvideo Magazine (France): 18/20

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Another review from Belgium,

Score: 9.7

They don't divide the score in graphics, sound, etc. But they give some 'facts' about the game with the scores, nothing to take serious I think

Metal Gear Solid 4 is...

62% Hideo's perfect closure

20% picking up memories

15% saying goodbye

3% too much incomprehensible bull**** in between for the not-fans

Scans: http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk205/D...pg?t=1211898425 & http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk205/D...pg?t=1211898514

Disappointed the incomprehensible BS isn't at a higher % :p

By the way does anyone know when the likes of 1UP/Gamespot/IGN and Eurogamer will publish their reviews? - AKA the reviews that will probably try and balance things with the likes of 8.5-8.9 :laugh: