Is it worth Switching?

[Cara Veteran]

The real question is is! Is it worth changing your under ware every day" hell yah it is worth it every bit.

So how does your argument translate to those who don't wear underwear? Bet you hadn't thought of that one. ;)

Seriously though, I advise anyone thinking of switching to drop by your local Apple Retail Location and use the equipment, that will answer each question you might have as to its worth. :)

[MochiFX]

i think he should've used the bathe analogy :p

[0x10]

That's a matter of opinion. One of my biggest complaints is the delayed response time when opening files, such as a 1KB text file. I've been told compiling the OS just about eliminates this, but like I want to bother with that. It has its benefits, but like Opera, the quirks just aren't enough to hook me.

Yes -- many Linux apps with a UI are simply much laggier than their Windows counterparts (can we say Firefox?). What programs are you using, and under what desktop environment? I recommend using fluxbox and a console editor / emacs.

I always try to stay away from bloated *nix apps, because just like with Windows, they exist on *nix as well.

[John S. Veteran]

It's well worth the switch. In just a couple days it'll be 3 years since I switched after 12 years of Windows, still with my first iMac, pre-bootcamp. The only thing I miss is Winamp and I sorta have that. :)

[Cara Veteran]

It's well worth the switch. In just a couple days it'll be 3 years since I switched after 12 years of Windows, still with my first iMac, pre-bootcamp. The only thing I miss is Winamp and I sorta have that. :)

Hey John, I love to get feedback on things like this... You said you miss Winamp, what about iTunes doesn't fit what you need/want?

[The Angry Bunny]

Ugh, this thread makes me want a Mac so bad. I've wanted one for 5 years now, but something always comes up right before I'm able to buy one. This past time was the worst... had $900 saved up, then got fired (for stupid reasons) from my job and had to use that money as fall-back money.

I'm starting to wonder if I'll ever be able to join the Mac crowd...

[johnathonm]

Spec the PC components out side by side.

Price them side by side.

Learn that Mac is, in fact, absurdly overpriced for what you're getting....

Lrn2pc or just go to a *Nix but there is no justification for buying locked in, proprietary garbage hardware and non-customizible OS that is nothing special.

Protip: Who deleted my one post...it was a logically response to an illogical discussion.

Ugh, this thread makes me want a Mac so bad. I've wanted one for 5 years now, but something always comes up right before I'm able to buy one. This past time was the worst... had $900 saved up, then got fired (for stupid reasons) from my job and had to use that money as fall-back money.

I'm starting to wonder if I'll ever be able to join the Mac crowd...

Bunny,

Tell me, why do you want to join the mac crowd? Just curious?

[John S. Veteran]

Hey John, I love to get feedback on things like this... You said you miss Winamp, what about iTunes doesn't fit what you need/want?

It's partly sentimental. Winamp was the first app that led me to skins, customizing, working with some great folks at DeskMod when it was still around, and they introduced me to Neowin. iTunes to me tries to be too much, I want a nice customizeable player with a playlist and EQ. If I want a store I'll go to one. I do purchase most of my music through iTunes now rather than the alternative methods, but overall iTunes is too busy.

edit: and iTunes always ends up duplicating my songs for some reason. I initially chose to set up my iTunes folder on an external drive and I often end up with duplicates. Libraries are not easy to manage at all through iTunes. I would 10x prefer to manage them myself through the folders, not some app doing it for me poorly.

[ViperAFK]

It's partly sentimental. Winamp was the first app that led me to skins, customizing, working with some great folks at DeskMod when it was still around, and they introduced me to Neowin. iTunes to me tries to be too much, I want a nice customizeable player with a playlist and EQ. If I want a store I'll go to one. I do purchase most of my music through iTunes now rather than the alternative methods, but overall iTunes is too busy.

edit: and iTunes always ends up duplicating my songs for some reason. I initially chose to set up my iTunes folder on an external drive and I often end up with duplicates. Libraries are not easy to manage at all through iTunes. I would 10x prefer to manage them myself through the folders, not some app doing it for me poorly.

iTunes does very strange things to my library and have yet to figure out why. When I add the songs to it they are all messed up and completely unorganized as if they are un-tagged (But they are tagged fine and I have never had a problem with ANY other media player) iTunes is the has given me the worst library experience ever. It is also one of the slowest programs I have ever used (The windows version, the mac one is alright).

I use winamp on windows, still my favorite media player. I actually like the new skin in the newest version. I also manage all my music by myself and prefer not to have any player do it for me because that never ends well.

[The Angry Bunny]

johnathomn,

Honestly OSX. And I like the design of apple products.

And before you say anything, yes I have used linux, and it's meh tbh.

I am a user of both Windows and Linux, and want to learn OSX as well... (even though I'm expecting it to be similar to Linux)

[Cara Veteran]

It's partly sentimental. Winamp was the first app that led me to skins, customizing, working with some great folks at DeskMod when it was still around, and they introduced me to Neowin. iTunes to me tries to be too much, I want a nice customizeable player with a playlist and EQ. If I want a store I'll go to one. I do purchase most of my music through iTunes now rather than the alternative methods, but overall iTunes is too busy.

edit: and iTunes always ends up duplicating my songs for some reason. I initially chose to set up my iTunes folder on an external drive and I often end up with duplicates. Libraries are not easy to manage at all through iTunes. I would 10x prefer to manage them myself through the folders, not some app doing it for me poorly.

Very nice to know, mind if I pass that along up the chain of command?

[AudioDope]

I've never tried a Mac except at apple stores,etc

"Why dont u try linux" is a bit overrated. I tried almost every linux distrubution there is, and def. EVERY WM on almost every rig (fast, slow, ultra slow).

Linux outright Sucks, I'm not afraid to say that, i was befoer because i didnt have the experience, i didnt try it by myself, etc. I can now say i am a novice linux user, and it sucks so bad. Currently my desktop is fluxbox on xubuntu and i occasinally use kde, etc sucks like crap. Windows is way better.

Not sure about mac.

[giga Veteran]

Spec the PC components out side by side.

Price them side by side.

Learn that Mac is, in fact, absurdly overpriced for what you're getting....

Lrn2pc or just go to a *Nix but there is no justification for buying locked in, proprietary garbage hardware and non-customizible OS that is nothing special.

Protip: Who deleted my one post...it was a logically response to an illogical discussion.

Bunny,

Tell me, why do you want to join the mac crowd? Just curious?

Anything that you build yourself will always be cheaper--that's just a fact of life and doesn't just apply to macs.

But you will find that the Macbook, iMac, Mac Pro, Apple Cinema Display, Airport Extreme/Time Capsule are adequately price for a retail item for what the machine offers in design and specifications.

And your post of "Mac's are for sodomites." was far from logical. This is a public warning for you to get your head straight and read the rules before posting.

[-Vivicidal-]

Money isn't an issue for me.

Thank you for your replies. Anytime I start thinking about switching, I forget that I can BootCamp it up if needs be.

We'll see what happens come June :) Thanks guys.

Wish it was the same for all of us.

[Cara Veteran]

Wish it was the same for all of us.

Isn't that the truth. :p I'd love to have an OctoCore Mac Pro with Dual 30's here at home and one for my Husband also...sadly even I can't justify that. ;)

[John S. Veteran]

Very nice to know, mind if I pass that along up the chain of command?

Sure thing, no problem :)

[markwolfe Veteran]

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Linux outright Sucks, I'm not afraid to say that, i was befoer because i didnt have the experience, i didnt try it by myself, etc. I can now say i am a novice linux user, and it sucks so bad. Currently my desktop is fluxbox on xubuntu and i occasinally use kde, etc sucks like crap. Windows is way better.

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:rolleyes:

And I have used Windows for a lot longer than you have, I am willing to wager. I guess that would make me more qualified to apply a "sux" label on OSes, as that seems to be how you feel that you have qualified yourself for such broad, sweeping statements.

And, no, Windows is not overall "way better". In fact, Linux suits me and works with me and runs much better for me than Windows ever did. Yet, oddly enough, you don't see me running at the mouth posting "Windows sucks! Windows sucks!" in threads.

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[4CxbqFxVnstmA Veteran]

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I second your condemnation of the tendency among some people to condemn what they don't understand. It's silly really to say any OS 'sux'.

I have only used Windows, OS X, and Linux but I can tell those who doubt that they all do work fine, once up and running. My own personal opinion ranks Linux (Gnome, here) at the top, OS X nearly there, and Windows a bit farther down. But I know people who, God only knows how, get lots of work done on Windows. More power to them, as long as I don't have to go that route myself. :D

PS Somehow I think, in the end, freedom will win out. :yes:

[+Fahim S. MVC]

To the OP, moving to a Mac may be better for you. There is little difference between the hardware (especially on the notebook front) and I would argue that Apple branded laptops are amoung the best you can get.

As for Mac OS, some love it whilst others can't stand it. Not many can argue that overall it is a great OS. Is it better than Windows? Might be for you - you'll never know the answer to that until you try. If Mac OS doesn't work out, then run Windows or some *nix variant on it. Sounds like a win-win situation to me.

[azcodemonkey]

It's well worth the switch. In just a couple days it'll be 3 years since I switched after 12 years of Windows, still with my first iMac, pre-bootcamp. The only thing I miss is Winamp and I sorta have that. :)

I feel the same way. While I don't mind using iTunes, I have to say that I feel that iTunes is more of a store front than a media player. I miss the singular purpose of Winamp; to play music and look good whilst doing so.

I think it's worth the switch. I bought my first PowerBook back in 2004, and absolutely loved it. Since then, I've purchased a MacBook Pro and a Mac Pro. I have only one Windows specific machine in my house, and the only reason I keep that is for HD DVD and Blu-ray playback.

[Cormier6083]

And, no, Windows is not overall "way better". In fact, Linux suits me and works with me and runs much better for me than Windows ever did. Yet, oddly enough, you don't see me running at the mouth posting "Windows sucks! Windows sucks!" in threads.

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:yes:

[DrewJW]

To the OP, moving to a Mac may be better for you. There is little difference between the hardware (especially on the notebook front) and I would argue that Apple branded laptops are amoung the best you can get.

As for Mac OS, some love it whilst others can't stand it. Not many can argue that overall it is a great OS. Is it better than Windows? Might be for you - you'll never know the answer to that until you try. If Mac OS doesn't work out, then run Windows or some *nix variant on it. Sounds like a win-win situation to me.

Agreed the inclusion of Bootcamp is an amazing option and does give the best of both worlds.

[Xirgo]

One word answer, YES.

I also was a long time Windows user, started to use it when Windows 95 was out. I switched to an Apple around 2 years ago and I'm so happy I did, I'm sure you will too.

[thomasz]

Both of them is good. What makes you more convenient?

[vanacid]

Switching from Windows to Mac OS was the best move I ever made.