Windows Search 4.0 Beta

[Brandon Live Veteran]

Just got posted on Download Center :)

KB Article about Windows Search 4

64-bit Vista and Server 2008 version

32-bit Vista and Server 2008 version

32-bit XP 64-bit XP

32-bit Server 2003 64-bit Server 2003

There's a blog post at the Vista Team blog. Be sure and post your feedback!

[+Tantawi Subscriber²]

Awesome :) Thanks for the heads up Brandon! I'm so installing this now.

[Brandon Live Veteran]

Also, I'll point out that while the UI changes are minimal in this release (especially on Vista), there was been a ton of work by the indexer team to improve performance, reliability, citizenship, etc.

[Herculean]

Does "minimal UI changes" involve fixing the search button on the bar in the taskbar when Windows classic is the visual style?

If so, that'll make it pretty sweet!

[Brandon Live Veteran]

Does "minimal UI changes" involve fixing the search button on the bar in the taskbar when Windows classic is the visual style?

If so, that'll make it pretty sweet!

Really not sure. I actually wasn't really involved in this release, so I'm not up on all the details. The main changes I'm familiar with are some of the query performance increases and some cool new SQL stuff for developers.

[Herculean]

Really not sure. I actually wasn't really involved in this release, so I'm not up on all the details. The main changes I'm familiar with are some of the query performance increases and some cool new SQL stuff for developers.

Fair enough, what's the recommended way that I can contact them to report this bug?

[Glowstick]

Outlook removed message removal from index better be working this time. What's the point of a damn search engine if it finds stuff long deleted ago (deleted as in gone forever, not moved to trash).

[Brandon Live Veteran]

Outlook removed message removal from index better be working this time. What's the point of a damn search engine if it finds stuff long deleted ago (deleted as in gone forever, not moved to trash).

That's never been a known issue with Windows Search / WDS. It's been a problem with some competitors, mainly Google who said "it's not a bug, it's a feature!"

Unless a whole bunch of stuff changes at once, the indexer is always kept up-to-date, and deletes should always be processed pretty much instantly. The only exception might be on battery power, depending on your power profile.

[insomniac9]

Cheers for the heads up, installing now

[Angel Blue01]

Now someone needs to update ifilters for the new version I want my Thunderbird indexing!

[Argi]

Will this be deployed through Windows Update when it's finished, and if so will we have to uninstall the preview when the final is released?

[Brandon Live Veteran]

Will this be deployed through Windows Update when it's finished, and if so will we have to uninstall the preview when the final is released?

I'm not 100% sure, but I believe the answer is yes (to both questions).

[Express]

I just installed the bits on my Vista system. Looks like its rebuilding the index from a scratch.

[Brandon Live Veteran]

I just installed the bits on my Vista system. Looks like its rebuilding the index from a scratch.

Yeah, unfortunately that is necessary since the index format changed significantly.

[random_n]

Ooh, I'll have to try this at work tomorrow. My Vista/Outlook 2007 machine has multiple Outlook profiles (for multiple Exchange accounts over disparate domains with RPC/HTTPS), and the Indexer v3 seems to be very choosy as to which profile it indexes. I'd thought it was the first, alphabetically, but I'm not so sure any more after it switched one day and I couldn't figure out why. Hopefully that's fixed, but even if not (and I'll admit my configuration is a fringe case), performance improvements are always welcome! :)

[Express]

Yeah, unfortunately that is necessary since the index format changed significantly.

Perf has really improved though. Thanks.

I see a number of crashes in Search filter Host. Is there a list of good well behaved IFilters?

[CdCViRus]

Great stuff, Brandon!

When is the final *expected* to come out?

[Suren]

Is this the ill fated "Casino" or "One View"? Or is that project dead as a dodo?

[Brandon Live Veteran]

Is this the ill fated "Casino" or "One View"? Or is that project dead as a dodo?

"Casino" was mainly a research / prototype project. This release contains mainly improvements to the desktop indexer, and the other features/fixes described above.

[iwod]

Another thing to integrate into Vista

[1Frothy]

How much slower will my PC be after I install this.

Edited March 28, 2008 by 1Frothy

[Suren]

"Casino" was mainly a research / prototype project. This release contains mainly improvements to the desktop indexer, and the other features/fixes described above.

So the revolutionary UI of Casino won't be in this? even in the final release?

[Express]

So the revolutionary UI of Casino won't be in this? even in the final release?

OneView was one of the "Live" projects.

It became a victim of reorg when the search team moved to Windows.

[Marshalus Veteran]

How much slower will my PC be after I install this.

Turtles will run faster than it after installing this application.

:rolleyes:

[Evolution]

How does this compare to Vista SP1's search?