Shetland Posted April 24, 2008 Share Posted April 24, 2008 Youth sentenced for girl's murderMark King-Bromley Mark King-Bromley stabbed and battered Danielle with a brick A 17-year-old youth who "brutally" stabbed and battered his ex-girlfriend to death in north London has been sentenced to life at the Old Bailey. Danielle Johnson, 17, was beaten with a brick and repeatedly stabbed behind garages in Palmerston Road, Wood Green, in May 2007. Mark King-Bromley, from Palmers Green, north London, admitted murder. In a statement Danielle's father Wesley Johnson said the sentence will not be able to "null the pain of our loss". Mark King-Bromley was ordered to serve a minimum of 12 years. The court heard King-Bromley, who was in a new relationship but was still having sex with Danielle, attacked her after a row because he thought she was "harassing" him. Danielle Johnson Danielle Johnson was in a relationship with Mark King-Bromley She died in hospital 11 days later from chest and head injuries. Mr Johnson said Danielle's siblings, four brothers and a baby sister, are "still grieving" a year since the "brutal" attack. "The years given to the defendant are just a number. No amount of years will be able to null the pain of our loss," he said. "Danielle will never come back to us no matter how many years given to the guilty. The only consolation is that the guilty person is behind bars for a long time." Sentencing the youth Judge Stephen Kramer said: "This was a terrible and brutal outburst of violence using a weapon you had deliberately taken with you with tragic consequences. "You could not cope with what you perceived as harassment from Danielle and you could suppress your anger no longer." http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/7342768.stm I knew this monster. he was always wrong in the head. he bullied everyone he knew. it's really weird, i am posting cause it has taken me by shock. I am not really sure how i feel. anyone else been in this situation? what a **** this guy was. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/633234-i-sat-next-to-a-murderer/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Des Posted April 24, 2008 Share Posted April 24, 2008 he looks like a dick with that facial expression haha you never know Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/633234-i-sat-next-to-a-murderer/#findComment-589354168 Share on other sites More sharing options...
acies Posted April 24, 2008 Share Posted April 24, 2008 I knew this monster. he was always wrong in the head. he bullied everyone he knew.it's really weird, i am posting cause it has taken me by shock. I am not really sure how i feel. anyone else been in this situation? what a **** this guy was. Might want to get yourself checked out, you may have caught something. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/633234-i-sat-next-to-a-murderer/#findComment-589354179 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pikey Posted April 24, 2008 Share Posted April 24, 2008 ... sentenced to life at the Old Bailey.... serve a minimum of 12 years. Makes my 'blood boil' when I see nonsensical sentences like that ... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/633234-i-sat-next-to-a-murderer/#findComment-589354184 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garry Posted April 24, 2008 Share Posted April 24, 2008 anyone else been in this situation? 5 years ago my sister's boyfriend's dad killed his baby son then went after my sister, her boyfriend and his mum with a meat cleaver. Fun fun fun. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/633234-i-sat-next-to-a-murderer/#findComment-589354190 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Seetheworldsecond Subscriber¹ Posted April 24, 2008 Subscriber¹ Share Posted April 24, 2008 Makes my 'blood boil' when I see nonsensical sentences like that ... During those 12 years he will be beaten raped beaten raped raped again raped again and did I say rape? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/633234-i-sat-next-to-a-murderer/#findComment-589354399 Share on other sites More sharing options...
John S. Veteran Posted April 24, 2008 Veteran Share Posted April 24, 2008 During those 12 years he will be beaten raped beaten raped raped again raped again and did I say rape? And what sort of person will that make him to be back in society in 12 years? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/633234-i-sat-next-to-a-murderer/#findComment-589354422 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bloodrain Posted April 24, 2008 Share Posted April 24, 2008 And what sort of person will that make him to be back in society in 12 years? hes not coming back in 12 years, hes sentenced to life. Reread. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/633234-i-sat-next-to-a-murderer/#findComment-589354433 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tablet_user Posted April 24, 2008 Share Posted April 24, 2008 three of my best friends are all doing life in kingston for murder. one killed a cop. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/633234-i-sat-next-to-a-murderer/#findComment-589354444 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Seetheworldsecond Subscriber¹ Posted April 24, 2008 Subscriber¹ Share Posted April 24, 2008 And what sort of person will that make him to be back in society in 12 years? Exactly I do not agree with our system of "correcting society" But it is indeed punishment. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/633234-i-sat-next-to-a-murderer/#findComment-589354448 Share on other sites More sharing options...
betasp Posted April 24, 2008 Share Posted April 24, 2008 I am friends with a murderer. That's right, a friend. He did a horrible thing (carried gun to a fist fight and used it) and is now serving 15 years for the crime. I even put some money in his canteen fund every couple of months. He gets out in 9 years. I would have understood if he had gotten the death penalty (it was on the table). A bad decision does not make a bad person. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/633234-i-sat-next-to-a-murderer/#findComment-589354453 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+.Vamp Subscriber² Posted April 24, 2008 Subscriber² Share Posted April 24, 2008 hes not coming back in 12 years, hes sentenced to life. Reread. Mark King-Bromley was ordered to serve a minimum of 12 years. So he could very well be back in 12 years. Reread. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/633234-i-sat-next-to-a-murderer/#findComment-589354473 Share on other sites More sharing options...
primexx Posted April 24, 2008 Share Posted April 24, 2008 Makes my 'blood boil' when I see nonsensical sentences like that ... how is it non-nonsensical? he gets sentenced to life with 12 years no parole eligibility (or whatever is the equivalent in that jurisdiction). Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/633234-i-sat-next-to-a-murderer/#findComment-589354742 Share on other sites More sharing options...
inactive Posted April 25, 2008 Share Posted April 25, 2008 I am friends with a murderer. That's right, a friend. He did a horrible thing (carried gun to a fist fight and used it) and is now serving 15 years for the crime. I even put some money in his canteen fund every couple of months. He gets out in 9 years. I would have understood if he had gotten the death penalty (it was on the table). A bad decision does not make a bad person. maybe, but murder is murder... cause it just aint worth taking a risk with someone who is willing to kill someone for basically no reason... self defense is one thing but just shooting someone just for some petty crap is just wrong and should be punished severely. if he gets out in 12 years i think that's quite easy considering he just flat out murdered someone. p.s. it's sad when someone can get more prison time for selling drugs than murder or rape :( Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/633234-i-sat-next-to-a-murderer/#findComment-589354959 Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkmanx21 Posted April 25, 2008 Share Posted April 25, 2008 That's tough to swallow..just to know you were sitting that close to someone who did such a horrible crime.. ..know a few people who have done time, but I don't think anyone killed anyone. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/633234-i-sat-next-to-a-murderer/#findComment-589354974 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xerino Posted April 25, 2008 Share Posted April 25, 2008 And what sort of person will that make him to be back in society in 12 years? Apparently the Parole Board :p Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/633234-i-sat-next-to-a-murderer/#findComment-589354990 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackBauer87 Posted April 25, 2008 Share Posted April 25, 2008 The typical process means he would first be elegible for parole in 12 years. Doesn't mean hes going to get it, which he most likely wont. I'm amazed so many people aren't aware how the criminal justice system works. He will probably get out after 25 years, seeing that he has good behavior. If not forget about him ever being released. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/633234-i-sat-next-to-a-murderer/#findComment-589355346 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panacik Posted April 25, 2008 Share Posted April 25, 2008 Makes my 'blood boil' when I see nonsensical sentences like that ... Same here. During those 12 years he will be beaten raped beaten raped raped again raped again and did I say rape? He may be the one doing the raping though :( hes not coming back in 12 years, hes sentenced to life. Reread. You re-read :p The typical process means he would first be elegible for parole in 12 years. Doesn't mean hes going to get it, which he most likely wont.I'm amazed so many people aren't aware how the criminal justice system works. He will probably get out after 25 years, seeing that he has good behavior. If not forget about him ever being released. You are in the US which has a differet law system to the UK, so what oyu said is not 100% accurate. In the UK, life is 15 years and/or less. He has to serve a minimum of 12, which means he will probably be back in the community within 6 years, with a tag on his leg or simply under house arrest. He could end up in an open prison, which means he will be out through the day and back in the prison at night. Which basically means he will be given free food and shelter and be allowed to do what he likes through the day. The UK justice system works more in the favour of the criminal and not the good people. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/633234-i-sat-next-to-a-murderer/#findComment-589355361 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axel Posted April 25, 2008 Share Posted April 25, 2008 We need to bring back capital punishment - the reason these things happen is because people aren't afraid of consequences anymore. These people have no worth-while life out of jail - so they don't see much of a problem spending a chunk of it in jail. Simple. I'm not saing prison is necessarily and easy ride - but it might as well be in his case seeing as what he's done. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/633234-i-sat-next-to-a-murderer/#findComment-589355368 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panacik Posted April 25, 2008 Share Posted April 25, 2008 We need to bring back capital punishment - the reason these things happen is because people aren't afraid of consequences anymore. These people have no worth-while life out of jail - so they don't see much of a problem spending a chunk of it in jail. Simple. I'm not saing prison is necessarily and easy ride - but it might as well be in his case seeing as what he's done. Exactly. It also frustrates me, because i know someone who was a great family man with a great job. he saw someone being knifed and watched and called the police. The police asked if he would give statments and be a witness in court, and he said yes. However, 2 days later he was arrested and put in jail for 6 months and now has a criminal record, because he didnt try to stop the person from being stabbed :s Whilst in jail the police asked if he would still give evidence in court and he refused. They tried to do a deal with him of letting him out after 3 months, but he said that was blackmail and they had ruined his life for no good reason anyway. His wife left him and took the kids, he lost his job because of his record and became almost homeless. That is how the law system works in the UK. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/633234-i-sat-next-to-a-murderer/#findComment-589355383 Share on other sites More sharing options...
macf13nd Posted April 25, 2008 Share Posted April 25, 2008 Exactly. It also frustrates me, because i know someone who was a great family man with a great job. he saw someone being knifed and watched and called the police.The police asked if he would give statments and be a witness in court, and he said yes. However, 2 days later he was arrested and put in jail for 6 months and now has a criminal record, because he didnt try to stop the person from being stabbed :s Whilst in jail the police asked if he would still give evidence in court and he refused. They tried to do a deal with him of letting him out after 3 months, but he said that was blackmail and they had ruined his life for no good reason anyway. His wife left him and took the kids, he lost his job because of his record and became almost homeless. That is how the law system works in the UK. that's AWFUL. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/633234-i-sat-next-to-a-murderer/#findComment-589355411 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MightyJordan Posted April 25, 2008 Share Posted April 25, 2008 hes not coming back in 12 years, hes sentenced to life. Reread. Remember that this is Britain. Our law is seriously f***ed up. You never serve the term you're sentenced to, and if you're famous, you serve even less and get more privileges in prison (Pete Doherty, for example). Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/633234-i-sat-next-to-a-murderer/#findComment-589355422 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panacik Posted April 25, 2008 Share Posted April 25, 2008 that's AWFUL. Yeah. The guys life was ruined for no good reason and he is one of the nicest guys you could ever meet. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/633234-i-sat-next-to-a-murderer/#findComment-589355424 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brodel Posted April 25, 2008 Share Posted April 25, 2008 he was arrested and put in jail for 6 months and now has a criminal record, because he didnt try to stop the person from being stabbed :s Whilst in jail the police asked if he would still give evidence in court and he refused. They tried to do a deal with him of letting him out after 3 months, but he said that was blackmail and they had ruined his life for no good reason anyway. There must be more to it than that, they don't just arrest people for not intervening in a crime otherwise they would be arresting 100's of people if something like a murder happened in a park or high street with lots of people. Also, whilst I can understand his resentment I don't really see how not giving evidence, which could result in someone that goes around stabbing peole to be jailed, does anything but harm to everyone. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/633234-i-sat-next-to-a-murderer/#findComment-589355430 Share on other sites More sharing options...
XerXis Posted April 25, 2008 Share Posted April 25, 2008 We need to bring back capital punishment - the reason these things happen is because people aren't afraid of consequences anymore. These people have no worth-while life out of jail - so they don't see much of a problem spending a chunk of it in jail. Simple. I'm not saing prison is necessarily and easy ride - but it might as well be in his case seeing as what he's done. so there are no murders in the USA? ;) What you are stating as facts has no real backing at all Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/633234-i-sat-next-to-a-murderer/#findComment-589355432 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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