HTC Announces the Touch Diamond, the "iphone killer"


Recommended Posts

I must find this funny, HTC vs iPhone, two separate phones, two different announcements, different OS, both slightly different, but both good and both with differing problems,

On one hand the iPhones gets slammed and slammed

The HTC, even thou the OS is slower and looks slightly clunkier and the touch isn't everywhere, is praised and is classed as a buy buy buy!!

It wouldn't surprise me if these two statements are coming from the same people

I mentioned this in the front page post but thats been pushed down a little..

I like the basics of the visuals in this, but I think they pushed it to the point of overkill.

For example, I like the weather animations, they're neat and very nicely done , transitioning fast. The rain animation is nice, for instance. But I think they could have done without the windshield wiper animation at the end of the rain animation. It may be neat the first time you see it, but gets tiring after that.

The emails showing from envelopes, and pictures shown on angles look nice enough, but how many of you really want to look through your email in graphical envelopes that only serve to obscure more of the content of the email than they need to?

I just think HTC would have been wiser knowing how far to take things and where to stop.

I must find this funny, HTC vs iPhone, two separate phones, two different announcements, different OS, both slightly different, but both good and both with differing problems,

On one hand the iPhones gets slammed and slammed

The HTC, even thou the OS is slower and looks slightly clunkier and the touch isn't everywhere, is praised and is classed as a buy buy buy!!

It wouldn't surprise me if these two statements are coming from the same people

Well it's not always good to have an all-touch phone. The iPhone suffers because of this, especially when you use the camera. If you're not taking a picture of yourself, no problem. Also, using the iPod is annoying as well. Most phones and MP3 players let you change the volume and the track without having to take the phone out of your pocket.

Well it's not always good to have an all-touch phone. The iPhone suffers because of this, especially when you use the camera. If you're not taking a picture of yourself, no problem. Also, using the iPod is annoying as well. Most phones and MP3 players let you change the volume and the track without having to take the phone out of your pocket.

You can change the volume without having to take the phone out of your pocket. Who says you can't? There's a volume control button on the left side of the phone. The iPod features for the phone are the best, makes it an awesome iPod :yes: And the camera thing, what's different about that compared to any other phone? Do most of them have a button near the camera to take a picture or something? I'm not sure exactly what your complaint is?

You can change the volume without having to take the phone out of your pocket. Who says you can't? There's a volume control button on the left side of the phone. The iPod features for the phone are the best, makes it an awesome iPod :yes: And the camera thing, what's different about that compared to any other phone? Do most of them have a button near the camera to take a picture or something? I'm not sure exactly what your complaint is?

A lot of people just prefer phones that have tactile buttons, especially for the keyboard, so it doesn't necessarily make a phone bad that it isn't all touch based. An all touch base phone like the iPhone is nice and all, but people have different preferences.

A lot of people just prefer phones that have tactile buttons, especially for the keyboard, so it doesn't necessarily make a phone bad that it isn't all touch based. An all touch base phone like the iPhone is nice and all, but people have different preferences.

This is true, I don't disagree, but my original point wasn't about that as this HTC doesn't have a keyboard either, it was about the praise dished out on the HTC, even with its limitations, and people going wow gee, I'm going to buy it, a very differing contrast

I'm waiting out for the hardware QWERTY version of this one which we all know is coming..

I swear I will faint when I have that one in my hand.

If it doesn't has an QWERTY by the time it's July and the iPhone 3G sucks balls (which IMHO does compared to this, don't bash .. VERY PERSONAL opinion), I will definitely get this Diamond.

Oh HTC .. you really do love us all!

(Now gimme new drivers for my HTC Touch Dual .. ow yeah .. btw .. HTC Touch Dual for sale ^^)

The TMobile press release stated that the final production model will have an extra 64Mb Ram Link.

I would be willing to wager the extra ram and some time to optimise the HTC interface will provide us with a smoother final front end GUI. That being said I dont think the lag from other videoes rather than the one on the front page was that bad, even if we take the lag from the Modaco video as how it will perform, I still tip my hat at HTC for showing Microsoft how these devices should be aimed at consumers. Afterall HTC makes the devices and in my opinion should specialise in that - it should be MS providing us with our fancy WinMo interfaces.

If it doesn't has an QWERTY by the time it's July and the iPhone 3G sucks balls (which IMHO does compared to this, don't bash .. VERY PERSONAL opinion),

I know its just a personal opinion, but could you list why and have you any experience of either?

I think the iphone has in its favour a very dedicated, smooth device, built to do what it does

the htc is building on foundations that arn't optomised and as a result you get the device hanging and touch flo only work in certain parts.

I know its just a personal opinion, but could you list why and have you any experience of either?

I think the iphone has in its favour a very dedicated, smooth device, built to do what it does

the htc is building on foundations that arn't optomised and as a result you get the device hanging and touch flo only work in certain parts.

I've regulary used an iPhone and it's a A++ class device. Real easy to use and innovative.

However HTC has ....

- no hardware, software, network limitations what so ever

- Best mobile software library

- TouchFLO (which is real easy to use .. Flo3D is 10x sexier)

- Built-in GPS

- Highspeed internet access

That said .. iPhone's keyboard is better then HTC's Diamonds and the UI is very clean and doesn't has to compensate for it's main OS (TouchFLO on WinMo).

I'm not throwing the 3G iPhone out of the window .. just saying .. the only real thing keeping me leaning towards Apple instead of 100% on this device, is it's keyboard.

Bring me this with an QWERTY like my good old Wizard, and you have a winner.

It does look nice but i am surprised that people are not shocked that its gonna cost 900$. I find my iPhone better than most of the phones out there plus its cheaper compared to HTC Diamond too. I think after the SDK is released, iphone will become even more attractive. I am personally waiting for Sony Xperia X1 too

That said .. iPhone's keyboard is better then HTC's Diamonds and the UI is very clean and doesn't has to compensate for it's main OS (TouchFLO on WinMo).

Just gotta wait ~9 months till Windows 7 is out and the keyboard will be the same :D

That's called the HTC Raphael and god knows when they'll release it.

I know .. i quoted it a few pages back .. they already found it in operator handbooks.

Waiting for that one...

It does look nice but i am surprised that people are not shocked that its gonna cost 900$. I find my iPhone better than most of the phones out there plus its cheaper compared to HTC Diamond too. I think after the SDK is released, iphone will become even more attractive. I am personally waiting for Sony Xperia X1 too

Sigh .. how many more times do I have to post it .. it's only 520 euros on a Dutch webshop for preorder.

This is a rip-off shop so I'm guessing the normal price will be that of the Touch Dual .. about 450 ~ 475 euros.

This topic is now closed to further replies.
  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    • No registered users viewing this page.
  • Posts

    • If I ever get that issue I will let you know how I fix it
    • As I've been usually saying lately - we all can thank "AI" for this.
    • Friday Windows 11 preview builds are here. Insiders in the Experimental (formerly Dev) and Beta Channel can download builds 26300.8697 and 26220.8690. My Windows11 device on the Preview Channel just got 26220.8728. My guess is this build is a nightly update from 26220.8690.
    • Traffic has a surprisingly unexpected impact on your surroundings by Sayan Sen Image by Radik 2707 via Pexels A collaborative study by researchers from several Israeli institutions found that everyday pollution from traffic and industrial activity measurably changed the atmospheric electric field over the Tel Aviv metropolitan area, providing new evidence of how human activity can influence the lower atmosphere. The research was led by Dr. Roy Yaniv of the Hebrew University of Jerusalem and the Gertner Institute at Sheba Medical Center, Dr. Assaf Hochman of the Fredy & Nadine Herrmann Institute of Earth Sciences at the Hebrew University, and Prof. Yoav Yair of Reichman University. The study also involved Itay Froomer, a student from Hadera High School and the Israeli Museum of Medicine and Science (Technoda), who carried out the work as part of the Ministry of Education's 5-unit physics research track. The researchers focused on the atmospheric electric field under fair-weather conditions. Even in the absence of storms, a weak electric field naturally exists between Earth's surface and the atmosphere. One of the main ways scientists measure this field is through the Potential Gradient (PG), which is the inverse of the vertical component of the electric field. PG is a key part of the global electric circuit, a planet-wide system of electrical currents maintained by thunderstorms and electrified clouds around the world. Scientists have long known that the atmospheric electric field can be influenced by factors ranging from large-scale atmospheric processes to local weather conditions such as dust, fog and clouds. Human-made pollution is also known to play a role, but understanding exactly how urban emissions affect the electric field close to the ground has remained an area of ongoing research. To investigate this relationship, the team analyzed measurements from a newly installed electric field mill, an instrument used to continuously monitor the strength of the atmospheric electric field. The instrument was installed at the Center for Technological Education (Roter House) in Holon and became operational in August 2024. It was funded by Israel's Ministry of Education and the Holon municipality. The electric field mill forms part of a broader monitoring network that includes nearby meteorological stations and air-quality monitoring sites. This allowed researchers to compare electric field measurements with detailed weather data and pollution records to better understand what was driving changes in the Potential Gradient. The study focused on two major urban pollutants: fine particulate matter (PM2.5) and nitrogen oxides (NOx), both commonly produced by vehicle traffic and industrial activity. PM2.5 refers to microscopic airborne particles small enough to remain suspended in the atmosphere for extended periods, while NOx is a group of gases released during fuel combustion. Researchers examined daily, weekly and seasonal patterns in the atmospheric electric field and compared them with changes in pollutant concentrations. Their analysis revealed a clear relationship between NOx levels and changes in the Potential Gradient, particularly during morning and evening rush hours when traffic emissions were at their highest. “What we observe is a direct physical link between emission peaks and electrical variability,” explained Dr. Roy Yaniv. “NOx reduces atmospheric conductivity very quickly, so the electric field responds almost instantaneously during traffic rush hours.” Atmospheric conductivity describes how easily electrical charges move through the air. According to the researchers, nitrogen oxides rapidly alter this conductivity, causing a near-immediate response in the electric field. PM2.5, however, was associated with a delayed response. The researchers attributed this difference to the particles' longer atmospheric residence time, meaning they remain in the atmosphere for longer periods, as well as their different microphysical interactions with surrounding air and atmospheric components. The study also identified a pronounced "weekend effect." In Israel, traffic volumes and some industrial activity decline significantly on Fridays and Saturdays. During these periods, concentrations of both NOx and PM2.5 dropped, and corresponding changes were observed in the atmospheric electric field. “The weekend signal demonstrates just how sensitive the electric field is to changes in human activity,” the researchers noted. “When emissions decline, the electrical environment adjusts at once, providing a high-resolution indicator of urban atmospheric conditions.” The findings showed that pollution levels can influence not only the chemical composition of the atmosphere but also its electrical properties. Researchers said the results strengthened the case for using atmospheric electricity as an additional tool for environmental monitoring, particularly in densely populated urban areas where anthropogenic, or human-caused, influences are most pronounced. The study also pointed to potential public health applications. By combining air-quality measurements with observations of atmospheric electricity, researchers said they could gain a more complete picture of how urban atmospheric conditions change over time. “Integrating air-quality data with electric-field measurements gives us a clearer picture of how the lower atmosphere evolves moment by moment,” the researchers added. “It’s a framework that can support both scientific insight and practical environmental decision-making.” Beyond the scientific findings, the project highlighted a collaboration between universities, public institutions and secondary education. Researchers said the work demonstrated how students could take part in real-world environmental research while contributing to studies of air quality, atmospheric processes and their potential effects on society. Source: Hebrew University, ScienceDirect This article was generated with some help from AI and reviewed by an editor. Under Section 107 of the Copyright Act 1976, this material is used for the purpose of news reporting. Fair use is a use permitted by copyright statute that might otherwise be infringing
  • Recent Achievements

    • Week One Done
      AMV earned a badge
      Week One Done
    • One Month Later
      AMV earned a badge
      One Month Later
    • Collaborator
      ryansurfer98 went up a rank
      Collaborator
    • One Month Later
      Eurosoft10 earned a badge
      One Month Later
    • Week One Done
      Eurosoft10 earned a badge
      Week One Done
  • Popular Contributors

    1. 1
      +primortal
      540
    2. 2
      +Edouard
      186
    3. 3
      PsYcHoKiLLa
      80
    4. 4
      Michael Scrip
      77
    5. 5
      Steven P.
      72
  • Tell a friend

    Love Neowin? Tell a friend!