Glowstick Posted May 8, 2008 Share Posted May 8, 2008 What a load of crock. Vista's using an improved network protocol and is by chance faster? Who'd have thought! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/635652-windows-vista-sp1-outperforms-windows-xp-sp2-in-file-copy/page/2/#findComment-589383741 Share on other sites More sharing options...
zerologic Posted May 8, 2008 Share Posted May 8, 2008 I used sp2 xp on my machine and then installed sp3 and found improved boot time and improved file copy times.I reinstalled to ensure i wasnt imagining it and it did indeed improve the performance. Sssh ;) Microsoft spies amongst us don't like to hear this sort of feedback. All hail Vista. Hail Vista. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/635652-windows-vista-sp1-outperforms-windows-xp-sp2-in-file-copy/page/2/#findComment-589383901 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vandalsquad Posted May 8, 2008 Share Posted May 8, 2008 So I guess the "Runs better.." and "Your working is now faster and.." slogans they always show during the installation aren't real after all? Darn and I thought every Windows was supposed to be better than the previous one. They have those slogans on XP aswell, remember upgrading from 98 to XP? Which was faster back then? 98 by a mile. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/635652-windows-vista-sp1-outperforms-windows-xp-sp2-in-file-copy/page/2/#findComment-589384183 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raa Posted May 8, 2008 Share Posted May 8, 2008 Total nonsense. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/635652-windows-vista-sp1-outperforms-windows-xp-sp2-in-file-copy/page/2/#findComment-589384196 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurmoth Posted May 8, 2008 Share Posted May 8, 2008 This is one person's test and for me, this test is absolutely absurd. I use Windows Vista SP1 and XP SP2 on my notebook and XP is blazingly faster than Vista (on the exact same machine - which has an Intel Core 2 Duo and 4GB of RAM (using the x64 version of Vista and the 32-bit version of XP) when it comes to file copying. I like Vista, don't get me wrong, but file copying is one thing that Vista still does extremely poorly. I'm still recommending people to use XP. That's me, based on my own experience. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/635652-windows-vista-sp1-outperforms-windows-xp-sp2-in-file-copy/page/2/#findComment-589384197 Share on other sites More sharing options...
soldier1st Posted May 8, 2008 Share Posted May 8, 2008 7Dash8:go away troll no1 wants you,Brandon is stating True facts as Is What we want to hear,Fantasies are for trolls Like you. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/635652-windows-vista-sp1-outperforms-windows-xp-sp2-in-file-copy/page/2/#findComment-589384686 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ViperAFK Posted May 8, 2008 Share Posted May 8, 2008 XP3 doesn't have any performance fixes... It is a collection of security fixes/hotfixes ect.. If you install sp3 and think it's so much faster, there is other factors causing the speed increase or it's a placebo. They didn't make any file copying changes in sp3. Huh? XP SP3 is just a collection of security fixes. There are no changes to the OS's functionality or performance. Vista SP1 contains a bunch of performance improvements handled by the Windows development team. No Windows developers worked on XP SP3, it's just a "sustained engineering" project that accumulates the hotfixes created to address specific issues (mainly security, occassionally major bugs hit by corporations).It makes no difference if you compare XP using SP2 or SP3. +1 SP3 is irrelevant to this test. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/635652-windows-vista-sp1-outperforms-windows-xp-sp2-in-file-copy/page/2/#findComment-589385038 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEVER85 Posted May 8, 2008 Share Posted May 8, 2008 Total nonsense. Wow, your reasons for disputing the test should make everyone see the light. I can't believe we missed that. You sir, are a master. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/635652-windows-vista-sp1-outperforms-windows-xp-sp2-in-file-copy/page/2/#findComment-589385072 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaybonaut Posted May 8, 2008 Share Posted May 8, 2008 ZeroLogic - your name is appropriate for your responses. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/635652-windows-vista-sp1-outperforms-windows-xp-sp2-in-file-copy/page/2/#findComment-589385088 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mail Posted May 8, 2008 Share Posted May 8, 2008 ZeroLogic - your name is appropriate for your responses. roffle Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/635652-windows-vista-sp1-outperforms-windows-xp-sp2-in-file-copy/page/2/#findComment-589385109 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaybonaut Posted May 8, 2008 Share Posted May 8, 2008 :cool: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/635652-windows-vista-sp1-outperforms-windows-xp-sp2-in-file-copy/page/2/#findComment-589385116 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Live Veteran Posted May 8, 2008 Veteran Share Posted May 8, 2008 Perhaps. ;) In the meantime Windows XP is just fine and Windows Vista SE (Windows '7'?) is only about two years away. Are you actually trying to insult something you know nothing about? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/635652-windows-vista-sp1-outperforms-windows-xp-sp2-in-file-copy/page/2/#findComment-589385162 Share on other sites More sharing options...
zerologic Posted May 8, 2008 Share Posted May 8, 2008 Are you actually trying to insult something you know nothing about? Insult Windows 7? I wouldn't do that. I'm merely hoping that the next release is a Microsoft product I actually want to use. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/635652-windows-vista-sp1-outperforms-windows-xp-sp2-in-file-copy/page/2/#findComment-589385384 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANova Posted May 9, 2008 Share Posted May 9, 2008 Those who think Vista runs faster, you are forgetting that having 2 GBs more of ram and an os that uses all four cores in a Q6600 does not mean Vista is faster on the software side than an XP whose limit is 3 GBs ram and only uses a single core for os related services. It is for this very reason, along with the increased demands by the animated UI, that XP is much faster on older systems and possibly a little slower on newer systems. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/635652-windows-vista-sp1-outperforms-windows-xp-sp2-in-file-copy/page/2/#findComment-589385522 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linkinfamous Posted May 9, 2008 Share Posted May 9, 2008 does not mean Vista is faster on the software side than an XP What? If an OS can use available resources better than its predecessor, it's not faster? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/635652-windows-vista-sp1-outperforms-windows-xp-sp2-in-file-copy/page/2/#findComment-589385535 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEVER85 Posted May 9, 2008 Share Posted May 9, 2008 Those who think Vista runs faster, you are forgetting that having 2 GBs more of ram and an os that uses all four cores in a Q6600 does not mean Vista is faster on the software side than an XP whose limit is 3 GBs ram and only uses a single core for os related services.It is for this very reason, along with the increased demands by the animated UI, that XP is much faster on older systems and possibly a little slower on newer systems. Okay, I got lost here. You can run XP on a machine with a dual core or above with 2 GB of RAM or more, and there are hotfixes out there that allow XP to utilize more than one core. I've run both XP and Vista on my machine and Vista is the far snappier one. I just installed Vista Home Basic SP1 on an old computer with an AMD Athlon XP 2400+ with 768 MB of RAM, and Vista runs better than XP even on that old machine. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/635652-windows-vista-sp1-outperforms-windows-xp-sp2-in-file-copy/page/2/#findComment-589386028 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MMaster23 Posted May 9, 2008 Share Posted May 9, 2008 Hmmm benchmarking via virtual pc and wireless connections .. be don't like this benchmark. Would be biased to enforce this result (unfortunally). One of better setups tough Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/635652-windows-vista-sp1-outperforms-windows-xp-sp2-in-file-copy/page/2/#findComment-589386053 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MMaster23 Posted May 9, 2008 Share Posted May 9, 2008 ps .. entire benchmark isn't valid I think .. - He states himself .. Windows Server 2008 support SMB v2 as does Vista. This provides sometimes up to 4000x file copy performance... - Depending on configuration .. the server balances the transfer for all clients but also priorities. Certain OSes / clients get higher speeds assigned. - The latency (ping) test is crap. Doesn't do anything. In Vista the ICMP (ping) protocol get priority over the LAN connector. - The virtual LAN NIC drivers differ in vista <> xp. If anything .. this is a SMB v2 demo. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/635652-windows-vista-sp1-outperforms-windows-xp-sp2-in-file-copy/page/2/#findComment-589386066 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ViperAFK Posted May 9, 2008 Share Posted May 9, 2008 Those who think Vista runs faster, you are forgetting that having 2 GBs more of ram and an os that uses all four cores in a Q6600 does not mean Vista is faster on the software side than an XP whose limit is 3 GBs ram and only uses a single core for os related services.It is for this very reason, along with the increased demands by the animated UI, that XP is much faster on older systems and possibly a little slower on newer systems. You can turn off aero. And the argument can be made that since xp does not take full of advantage of some of these things, technically on these machines on the software side vista is faster and more optimized. If you have an older pc I would run xp on it, but there is no reason not to run vista on a new modern machine with a lot of ram and a dual core. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/635652-windows-vista-sp1-outperforms-windows-xp-sp2-in-file-copy/page/2/#findComment-589388338 Share on other sites More sharing options...
zerologic Posted May 10, 2008 Share Posted May 10, 2008 Got a new Core 2 PC. I'm going to try Vista again. Let's see if it makes any difference. :happy: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/635652-windows-vista-sp1-outperforms-windows-xp-sp2-in-file-copy/page/2/#findComment-589388960 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEVER85 Posted May 10, 2008 Share Posted May 10, 2008 Got a new Core 2 PC. I'm going to try Vista again. Let's see if it makes any difference. :happy: If it's prebuilt, uninstall the crap that came bundled with it, and let it index the hard drive. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/635652-windows-vista-sp1-outperforms-windows-xp-sp2-in-file-copy/page/2/#findComment-589388977 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaybonaut Posted May 10, 2008 Share Posted May 10, 2008 Got a new Core 2 PC. I'm going to try Vista again. Let's see if it makes any difference. :happy: I would be very impressed if you show maturity enough to be honest if it isn't as bad as you thought and admitted it. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/635652-windows-vista-sp1-outperforms-windows-xp-sp2-in-file-copy/page/2/#findComment-589388993 Share on other sites More sharing options...
zerologic Posted May 10, 2008 Share Posted May 10, 2008 Ok Guys. I'm about to start my Vista Ultimate install soon. I'm not a jerk by design, I don't want to hate Vista just because it seems to be the popular thing to do. I wasn't overwhelmed with joy with Vista on my older hardware; I wanted to get a new PC for a while. It's here now and I've got a paid OEM of Vista Ultimate with it. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/635652-windows-vista-sp1-outperforms-windows-xp-sp2-in-file-copy/page/2/#findComment-589389055 Share on other sites More sharing options...
zerologic Posted May 10, 2008 Share Posted May 10, 2008 So, it's honesty time now. Let me start by showing this: I didn't know what to expect after my initial run in with Vista on an older single core PC, that's some years old now. It's time for me to eat my words, that's some impressive copy speed. Is it as fast as Windows XP? Yes, it seemed to be. The whole copy process was very quick. Now I have to restart my PC. A dozen Windows Updates just installed. Final Word: Vista Ultimate SP1. Doesn't suck, as long as the PC is a Dual Core System with a good amount of RAM (Mine has 4GB ~ 3.25GB Usable). Viva Vista. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/635652-windows-vista-sp1-outperforms-windows-xp-sp2-in-file-copy/page/2/#findComment-589389146 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANova Posted May 10, 2008 Share Posted May 10, 2008 You can turn off aero. And the argument can be made that since xp does not take full of advantage of some of these things, technically on these machines on the software side vista is faster and more optimized. If you have an older pc I would run xp on it, but there is no reason not to run vista on a new modern machine with a lot of ram and a dual core. Due to the nature in which multi processor systems require specific support to take advantage of all the hardware, it's not exactly a comparable situation. Purely for software efficiency, XP is far superior. There is a reason Vista requires more than 1 GB ram while XP can run happily on 512. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/635652-windows-vista-sp1-outperforms-windows-xp-sp2-in-file-copy/page/2/#findComment-589389174 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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