Hum Posted May 9, 2008 Share Posted May 9, 2008 DULUTH, Minn. - The driver of a 1997 Honda Civic that struck and killed a dog near Cloquet is suing the dog's owners for damage done to his vehicle.Jeffery Ely was driving on the night of Jan. 4 when Fester, a miniature pinscher, squeezed past owner Nikki Munthe as she was letting in her other dog and ran out onto the road. Ely's car struck Fester, killing the 13-pound dog instantly. Now Ely is suing the Munthes for about $1,100 for damage to his car, time he had to take off from his two jobs to get the car repaired, and court fees. Pieces of the bumper were propelled into the radiator when it hit the dog, Ely said, necessitating a replacement. Ely maintains he didn't have problems driving until after the accident and that the radiator issues were not pre-existing. Ely said he feels sorry for the Munthes' loss but, as a dog owner himself, feels that they must be responsible for their pets' actions. "I have complete compassion for them," Ely said. "I know how it feels. I love dogs. But once you get them, they are your responsibility." Munthe said she has always been worried about the busy road the family lives on. "We would have never let him off-leash because we're so terrified of this road," she said. The case will be heard in St. Louis County Court on Friday. The Munthes have filed a $2,400 countersuit against Ely for the cost to buy Fester, the time they had to take off work for court appearances, and the cost of buying a dog to replace Fester. :blink: source Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/635904-driver-kills-dog-then-sues-owners-for-damage/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudy Posted May 9, 2008 Share Posted May 9, 2008 I hope the guy wins and the counter suit fails, it might sound a bit harsh but you should be responsible for your pet Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/635904-driver-kills-dog-then-sues-owners-for-damage/#findComment-589386639 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MightyJordan Posted May 9, 2008 Share Posted May 9, 2008 I'm backing the Munthes on this one. Good on them to countersue the idiot. It's the driver's fault. He's probably lying about the "$1,100 damage" to his car. It's a '97 Civic! You can buy one for that price! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/635904-driver-kills-dog-then-sues-owners-for-damage/#findComment-589386646 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fusi0n Posted May 9, 2008 Share Posted May 9, 2008 I hope the guy wins and the counter suit fails, it might sound a bit harsh but you should be responsible for your pet I fully agree with you. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/635904-driver-kills-dog-then-sues-owners-for-damage/#findComment-589386648 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudy Posted May 9, 2008 Share Posted May 9, 2008 I'm backing the Munthes on this one. Good on them to countersue the idiot. It's the driver's fault. He's probably lying about the "$1,100 damage" to his car. It's a '97 Civic! You can buy one for that price! $1,100 for damage to his car, time he had to take off from his two jobs to get the car repaired, and court fees. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/635904-driver-kills-dog-then-sues-owners-for-damage/#findComment-589386655 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwjw1 Posted May 9, 2008 Share Posted May 9, 2008 I'm backing the Munthes on this one. Good on them to countersue the idiot. It's the driver's fault. He's probably lying about the "$1,100 damage" to his car. It's a '97 Civic! You can buy one for that price! yeah, your so right....that car owner shouldn't be driving his car on the road :rolleyes: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/635904-driver-kills-dog-then-sues-owners-for-damage/#findComment-589386667 Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt4pack Posted May 9, 2008 Share Posted May 9, 2008 So who would this guy be suing if he had hit a dear instead of someone's dog? Mother Nature I guess. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/635904-driver-kills-dog-then-sues-owners-for-damage/#findComment-589386680 Share on other sites More sharing options...
IceBreakerG Posted May 9, 2008 Share Posted May 9, 2008 So who would this guy be suing if he had hit a dear instead of someone's dog? Mother Nature I guess. When someone opens their door and their dog bolts out immediately into the street, how is that the driver's fault? You can't compare this to a "deer" being hit, because there's a good chance he might not even live to sue anyone. His car would be totalled and insurance would/should cover it. But, I guess you could sue the city/county if you really wanted to. I'm with Ely on this, as it really is the owners responsibility. They shouldn't have allowed their dog to run out of the house into the street. If they were so concerned about the busy street, they should've kept the dog from doing this. You'd think they'd know how their dog acts, and this probably isn't the first time the dog has done this or tried to do this, but it's definitely the last time :unsure: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/635904-driver-kills-dog-then-sues-owners-for-damage/#findComment-589387040 Share on other sites More sharing options...
leesmithg Posted May 9, 2008 Share Posted May 9, 2008 I hope the guy wins and the counter suit fails, it might sound a bit harsh but you should be responsible for your pet Correct, why should the driver have to fork out for damage to his motor vehicle that he did not cause. So who would this guy be suing if he had hit a dear instead of someone's dog? Mother Nature I guess. Use your noodle. In the UK and I guess every other country that has Deer in large concentrated numbers, you see a sign telling you to slow down and be carefull. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/635904-driver-kills-dog-then-sues-owners-for-damage/#findComment-589387055 Share on other sites More sharing options...
shakey Posted May 9, 2008 Share Posted May 9, 2008 His insurance should cover this anyway. There is no reason for the owner of the dead dog to pay. Accidents happen. If the dog bolted out, yes, bad on the owner, but we all know, we arent in controll of everything we have/do/whatever. The guys insurance should cover this, enough loss already. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/635904-driver-kills-dog-then-sues-owners-for-damage/#findComment-589387074 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hell-In-A-Handbasket Posted May 9, 2008 Share Posted May 9, 2008 yes its the drivers fault that the owner doesnt keep their dogs fenced in or on a leash says the dog squeesed past the owner when letting her other dogs in, and ran for the road. obviously there is not a fence/barrier, and the owner had other dogs letting them roam free i say let the car owner win Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/635904-driver-kills-dog-then-sues-owners-for-damage/#findComment-589387076 Share on other sites More sharing options...
remix17 Posted May 9, 2008 Share Posted May 9, 2008 You own the dog so you are responsible for everything your dog does. Plain and simple. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/635904-driver-kills-dog-then-sues-owners-for-damage/#findComment-589387290 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dysmatik Posted May 9, 2008 Share Posted May 9, 2008 You own the dog so you are responsible for everything your dog does. Plain and simple. I agree 100% Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/635904-driver-kills-dog-then-sues-owners-for-damage/#findComment-589387307 Share on other sites More sharing options...
leesmithg Posted May 9, 2008 Share Posted May 9, 2008 His insurance should cover this anyway. There is no reason for the owner of the dead dog to pay. Accidents happen. If the dog bolted out, yes, bad on the owner, but we all know, we arent in controll of everything we have/do/whatever. The guys insurance should cover this, enough loss already. No, the Dog owner should cover all costs. If the guy claims on his insurance then his premiums go up. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/635904-driver-kills-dog-then-sues-owners-for-damage/#findComment-589387311 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lasker Posted May 9, 2008 Share Posted May 9, 2008 You own the dog so you are responsible for everything your dog does. Plain and simple. I agree too, is your responsability Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/635904-driver-kills-dog-then-sues-owners-for-damage/#findComment-589387319 Share on other sites More sharing options...
spacer Posted May 9, 2008 Share Posted May 9, 2008 You own the dog so you are responsible for everything your dog does. Plain and simple. ^ What this guy (gal?) said. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/635904-driver-kills-dog-then-sues-owners-for-damage/#findComment-589387323 Share on other sites More sharing options...
slippery Posted May 9, 2008 Share Posted May 9, 2008 In the U.S. there is a law referred to as the "leash law". It's to protect both the owner of the pet (from getting sued beacuse it was loose), and on the other side equally - the general public. So, as it's set, if even by accident your pet gets loose, wether by the leash breaking, or it gets out past you as you open the door, its still the law - you are responsible to see that the pet "tethered" when outside. It may truly have been a mistake, and believe me, I am a dog lover, but the same applies to me, and I am most assuredly aware of what I have to do when taking my pooch outside. Plain and simple, the dog owner is at fault - even if by accident. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/635904-driver-kills-dog-then-sues-owners-for-damage/#findComment-589387326 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweetsam Posted May 9, 2008 Share Posted May 9, 2008 As tragic as the dog owners loss is in this case they should have been more careful. If they have owned the dog for sometime then they should be aware of such behavior. In that case the first thing to do would be to get a leash. What if it went after someone ? I think all dog owners should have their pets on a leash for safety reasons. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/635904-driver-kills-dog-then-sues-owners-for-damage/#findComment-589387338 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hum Posted May 9, 2008 Author Share Posted May 9, 2008 ^ Maybe you'd like to 'leash' children as well ... ? :laugh: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/635904-driver-kills-dog-then-sues-owners-for-damage/#findComment-589387871 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PermaSt0ne Posted May 9, 2008 Share Posted May 9, 2008 it's 100% the dog owners fault and they need to pay up but he won't win money for court fees or time taken off work. so he'll get like $400 for his bumper and radiator Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/635904-driver-kills-dog-then-sues-owners-for-damage/#findComment-589387898 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rohdekill Posted May 9, 2008 Share Posted May 9, 2008 There is a huge difference between a deer and a domesticated animal such as a dog - which can be easily trained to act on command. If the owner found it difficult to train the animal, leash it, then open the door. Most states/cities require pets to be fenced in or leashed at all times. If you want to stretch your comparision to the furthest degree possible and compare children to dogs, I say if they are hit both are the owner's fault. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/635904-driver-kills-dog-then-sues-owners-for-damage/#findComment-589387908 Share on other sites More sharing options...
majortom1981 Posted May 9, 2008 Share Posted May 9, 2008 In ny you are responsible for hitting a persons pet . also its a minio pincher come on how much damage can it do? I dont know this states laws on the subject though. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/635904-driver-kills-dog-then-sues-owners-for-damage/#findComment-589387916 Share on other sites More sharing options...
strekship Posted May 9, 2008 Share Posted May 9, 2008 In ny you are responsible for hitting a persons pet . also its a minio pincher come on how much damage can it do? I dont know this states laws on the subject though. Well depending on the speed he was going, the 13lb dog could have done enough damage. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/635904-driver-kills-dog-then-sues-owners-for-damage/#findComment-589388255 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferret Posted May 9, 2008 Share Posted May 9, 2008 No law suit ! Pay it yourself you scrounging little **** ! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/635904-driver-kills-dog-then-sues-owners-for-damage/#findComment-589388336 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PixilEyes Posted May 9, 2008 Share Posted May 9, 2008 Im curious. If this was a toddler instead of a dog, would he have still sued? Would opnions on this board be different? In ny you are responsible for hitting a persons pet . also its a minio pincher come on how much damage can it do? I dont know this states laws on the subject though. It could of been "hooked up" and very low to the ground. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/635904-driver-kills-dog-then-sues-owners-for-damage/#findComment-589388346 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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