Macbook vs. Macbook Pro question

By MochiFX
in Apple (macOS)

 Share

Recommended Posts

Grand Master

Cara Veteran

Posted
  • Veteran
Posted
Fair enough, cheers. Veteran made me think it was some sort of class given to early members of Neowin or something like that...

Certain amount of logic to it. :) Of course my own thoughts on it may not be accurate but every Vet I've seen I think has been staff at some-point. :)

Explorer

MochiFX

Posted
  • Author
Posted

2 more questions came to mind:

1)Is the 17'' that much bigger than the 15''? I'm pretty sure it will fit in my bag, only issue that concerns me is the deskspace it may take up(let's say in a lecture hall or a classroom).

2)If I have an external HDD that I want to install an OS on instead of the MBP itself, would I be able to boot from a USB HDD or would I have to use something like bootcamp?

Grand Master

Cara Veteran

Posted
  • Veteran
Posted
2 more questions came to mind:

1)Is the 17'' that much bigger than the 15''? I'm pretty sure it will fit in my bag, only issue that concerns me is the deskspace it may take up(let's say in a lecture hall or a classroom).

2)If I have an external HDD that I want to install an OS on instead of the MBP itself, would I be able to boot from a USB HDD or would I have to use something like bootcamp?

The 17-inch is amazing, the Ultra High Res is stunning, I have that one. :)

Which operating system are you wanting to install on the external drive?

Experienced

buzlink

Posted
Posted (edited)

Macbook better durability

Macbook Pro better graphic power, still not as durable as it should be, some screen issues as well in older models.

Sorry forgot to place in the Pro for the Pro entry. :(

Edited by buzlink
Grand Master

Cara Veteran

Posted
  • Veteran
Posted
Macbook better durability

Macbook better graphic power, still not as durable as it should be, some screen issues as well in older models.

Perhaps I'm just super tired today, I know that I am, but that made no sense to me... Can you be more specific?

Experienced

buzlink

Posted
Posted
Perhaps I'm just super tired today, I know that I am, but that made no sense to me... Can you be more specific?

Sorry, forgot to place in the Pro part.

Thats my personal opinion, personal experience with a 1st Gen. Macbook and 2nd Gen. Macbook Pro, and Compared with the last update of the iMac, not the just released update.

I have just had some construction usability issues with my MBP. As it goes for my battery it is a 34 cycles and has 31% health. It barely stays on with a full charge for 15 minutes without the power adapter.

My screen is yellowish-gray with lots of grain, where as the Macbook is crystal clear and bright.

If you close the lid it creaks and cracks, and at random will restart the machine if it is closed.

Just does not seem solid.

I know they have fixed these issues, but still for a 2,000 machine they really stand out.

Still big disadvantage for me is the metal case, dents, and scratches, and over-all flimsy to me.

Simply the MBP is to fragile to be toting around all over the place.

But to still say I love MBP, best computer I have ever used, just some construction issues that I would have thought Apple would have had fixed. Not as good fit-and-finish as everyone likes to rave.

Grand Master

Cara Veteran

Posted
  • Veteran
Posted
Sorry, forgot to place in the Pro part.

Thats my personal opinion, personal experience with a 1st Gen. Macbook and 2nd Gen. Macbook Pro, and Compared with the last update of the iMac, not the just released update.

I have just had some construction usability issues with my MBP. As it goes for my battery it is a 34 cycles and has 31% health. It barely stays on with a full charge for 15 minutes without the power adapter.

My screen is yellowish-gray with lots of grain, where as the Macbook is crystal clear and bright.

If you close the lid it creaks and cracks, and at random will restart the machine if it is closed.

Just does not seem solid.

I know they have fixed these issues, but still for a 2,000 machine they really stand out.

Still big disadvantage for me is the metal case, dents, and scratches, and over-all flimsy to me.

Simply the MBP is to fragile to be toting around all over the place.

But to still say I love MBP, best computer I have ever used, just some construction issues that I would have thought Apple would have had fixed. Not as good fit-and-finish as everyone likes to rave.

Just a few things with your experiences, have you already calibrated your battery? That can often alleviate the sudden power drop problems. You can find more details regarding this process below...

To calibrate the battery:

  1. Plug in the MagSafe power adapter and fully charge the MacBook or MacBook Pro battery until the light on the MagSafe connector changes to green and the Battery icon in the menu bar indicates that the battery is fully charged.
  2. Allow the battery to rest in the fully charged state for two hours or longer. You may use your computer during this time as long as the power adapter is plugged in.
  3. Disconnect the power adapter with the computer on and start using it with battery power. When the battery?s charge gets low, you?ll see the low battery warning dialog on the screen.
  4. Continue to keep your computer turned on until it goes to sleep. Save your work and close all applications when the battery?s charge gets low and before the computer goes to sleep.
  5. Turn off the computer or allow it to sleep for five hours or longer.
  6. Reconnect the power adapter and leave it connected until the battery is fully charged. You may use your computer during this time.

Repeat the calibration process every two months or so to keep the battery fully functioning. If you use your MacBook or MacBook Pro infrequently, it?s best to recalibrate the battery at least once a month.

This sounds like it could be a bad screen, if you are under warranty please take it to your local Apple Store as soon as possible to evaluate the color depth and see if you are eligible for replacement.

The other items in your list, afraid I can't say I've seen those in any model of the MBP or PBG4...not discounting them but I'm simply saying they are not the norm to the product. The MacBook Pro feels the most stable and sturdy laptop I have ever used followed closely by the Lenovo T6x Series.

Grand Master

Hurmoth

Posted
Posted
Don't listen to what Mr. Jobs tells you, Matte FTW. And I'm typing this on my glossy Macbook :pinch:

:pinch: I've always been torn by this. I was recently talking with another staff member here while in Seattle and he suggested glossy because you get better coloring with glossy than with matte. I think that was his reasoning, more colors maybe? Something like that. So my boss recently got his MacBook Pro (glossy) and a friend of mine has matte, I have since looked at both and I must say I would prefer glossy over matte. It looks so much better than the matte.

Here's an interesting blog post: http://gracefulflavor.blogspot.com/2006/10...-continues.html

"... I like the glossy. Side by side, the glossy blows the matte away. Colors are richer and deeper, and blacks are blacker."

Experienced

buzlink

Posted
Posted
Just a few things with your experiences, have you already calibrated your battery? That can often alleviate the sudden power drop problems. You can find more details regarding this process below...

Repeat the calibration process every two months or so to keep the battery fully functioning. If you use your MacBook or MacBook Pro infrequently, it’s best to recalibrate the battery at least once a month.

This sounds like it could be a bad screen, if you are under warranty please take it to your local Apple Store as soon as possible to evaluate the color depth and see if you are eligible for replacement.

The other items in your list, afraid I can't say I've seen those in any model of the MBP or PBG4...not discounting them but I'm simply saying they are not the norm to the product. The MacBook Pro feels the most stable and sturdy laptop I have ever used followed closely by the Lenovo T6x Series.

The battery has been calibrated several times and the screen problem, Apple pretty much said F-Off.

Grand Master

Cara Veteran

Posted
  • Veteran
Posted
The battery has been calibrated several times and the screen problem, Apple pretty much said F-Off.

Is your system covered under AppleCare or the original 1 year limited warranty?

How did you correspond with Apple previously, retail location or AppleCare support line? Apple prides itself on the level of support offered to customers, if someone wasn't helpful in resolving your problem let me know and I'll see if I can't help you come up with an alternate solution that will deliver the result you are looking for. :)

Grand Master

Cara Veteran

Posted
  • Veteran
Posted
I wanted to install something simple like Windows XP because I don't think my printer supports Mac, and a few other nit-picky programs. But I don't want to install it directly onto the MBP HDD when I get it.

Which printer, brand and model? :)

I normally do not recommend attempting to run operating systems from external hard drives, it never ends well.

Grand Master

PL_ Veteran

Posted
  • Veteran
Posted
:pinch: I've always been torn by this. I was recently talking with another staff member here while in Seattle and he suggested glossy because you get better coloring with glossy than with matte. I think that was his reasoning, more colors maybe? Something like that. So my boss recently got his MacBook Pro (glossy) and a friend of mine has matte, I have since looked at both and I must say I would prefer glossy over matte. It looks so much better than the matte.

Here's an interesting blog post: http://gracefulflavor.blogspot.com/2006/10...-continues.html

"... I like the glossy. Side by side, the glossy blows the matte away. Colors are richer and deeper, and blacks are blacker."

Hmm...yeah, it is something you appreciate when watching films or looking at pictures. The quality is really great, but I find myself hating it more than loving it. I like to sit outside a lot and work on it, and I sometimes find no matter where I sit I get glare. I can turn the brightness up to full, that doesn't make it too bad, but I'd rather save my battery life and have a matte screen.

Grand Master

Wannes

Posted
Posted
Yes, this voids the Apple Warranty, however Colorware does offer a warranty through them, that being said however it is NOT an Apple Warranty.

Not worth it in my opinion.

It's a pity it voids the warranty because you can create awesome stuff.

post-44312-1210927313.jpg

This topic is now closed to further replies.
 Share
Go to topic listing

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    • No registered users viewing this page.

  • Posts

    • Get 1-year and $60 of Sam's Club value for just $15 with Auto-renew

      By News Staff · Posted

      Get 1-year and $60 of Sam's Club value for just $15 with Auto-renew by Steven Parker Become a Sam's Club Member Now! Shop Premium-Quality Products and Enjoy Incredible Perks, and Savings. Today's highlighted deal comes via our Gift Cards section of the Neowin Deals store, where for only a limited time, you can save 75% off a Sam's Club 1 Year Membership with Auto-Renew. Sam’s Club is a membership warehouse club, a limited-item business model that offers members quality products at an exceptional value unmatched by traditional retail. From groceries and kitchen supplies to electronics and furniture, Sam's Club has great deals on the items you want! By redeeming and signing up as a member, you'll be paying just $20 for a 1 year Sam's Club membership (normally $50.) You'll receive a complimentary household card for more savings from already low-priced items. Sign up now and save money on all your food and decor. Find great deals on groceries, kitchen supplies, electronic, furniture & more Get discounts on hotels, rental car, live events, attractions, movies, & more Save up to 60% on hotel accommodations around the world Get a complimentary household card for more savings from already low-priced items Although it was published quite some time ago, Sam's Club members can enjoy discounts like this. Important Details For a physical membership card after online membership registration, present your phone number or email along with a valid ID at Sam’s Club Membership Services in any US Sam's Club location to have your membership card printed. This membership offer is only available to new Sam's Club members in the USA. It is not valid for membership renewals, for those with a current membership, or those who were Sam’s Club members less than 6 months prior to the current date. To check your renewal date, please check your billing statement or your online account, or chat with an associate. Promotion code is non-transferable Offer valid for new Sam’s Club members only; not valid for membership renewals, for those with a current membership, or those who were Sam’s Club members less than 6 months prior to the current date. Auto Renew: By accepting this offer, you authorize annual recurring charges to any card on file for your Sam's Club membership fee(s) plus any applicable taxes at then-current rate every year until you cancel. Current rates, which may change, are $50 for Club level and $110 for Plus level. Visit SamsClub.com or a club or call 1-888-746-7726 for full terms or to cancel auto-renewal. Valid at over 597 U.S. Sam’s Club locations. Find a location near you. Redemption deadline: redeem your code within 30 days of purchase Access options: desktop & mobile Membership MUST be activated within 30 days Membership expires 1 YEAR from the date the Sam's Club membership is activated Limit 1 per person, may buy 1 additional as gift This Sam's Club 1 Year Membership normally costs $60, but can now be yours for just $15, for a limited time, that's a saving of $45 (70%) off! For specifications, and terms, please click the link below. Get 1-year of Sam's Club with Auto-renew for just $15 (was $60) This deal is only available to U.S. residents. Support queries If you have queries or need support for any of the Neowin Deals, please use the contact form here. Neowin Deals are managed and sold by StackCommerce who represent Neowin on an affiliate basis. Why we post these deals We post these because we earn commission on each sale so as not to rely solely on advertising, which many of our readers block. It all helps toward paying staff reporters, servers and hosting costs. So for those that keep moaning and complaining, be thankful we're still online for you to even do that. Other ways to support Neowin Whitelist Neowin by not blocking our ads Create a free member account to see fewer ads Make a donation to support our day to day running costs Subscribe to Neowin - for $14 a year, or $28 a year for an ad-free experience Disclosure: Neowin benefits from revenue of each sale made through our branded deals site powered by StackCommerce.
    • Microsoft will soon allow some users to block Copilot from analyzing their Office files

      By excalpius · Posted

      Microsoft, why can't I just turn off Copilot on my MS account (in order to stop OneDrive from wanting to summarize everything, ahem) in a way that doesn't break OneNote instead?
    • Politically funny images of the World

      By +DoctorD · Posted

    • Major Xbox layoffs may claim South of Midnight developer Compulsion entirely

      By ryansurfer98 · Posted

      If we can't agree on a baseline of reality then there is no point in talking. Its a waste of time.
    • Politically funny images of the World

      By Xenon · Posted

  • Recent Achievements

    • Collaborator
      ryansurfer98 went up a rank
      Collaborator
    • Week One Done
      Eurosoft10 earned a badge
      Week One Done
    • One Month Later
      Eurosoft10 earned a badge
      One Month Later
    • One Year In
      Skeet Campbell earned a badge
      One Year In
    • One Month Later
      Sharbel earned a badge
      One Month Later

  • Popular Contributors

    1. 1
      +primortal
      589
    2. 2
      +Edouard
      190
    3. 3
      PsYcHoKiLLa
      80
    4. 4
      Michael Scrip
      77
    5. 5
      Steven P.
      73
    Show More

  • Tell a friend

    Love Neowin? Tell a friend!