toadeater Posted May 14, 2008 Share Posted May 14, 2008 The Air Force wants a suite of hacker tools, to give it "access" to -- and "full control" of -- any kind of computer there is. And once the info warriors are in, the Air Force wants them to keep tabs on their "adversaries' information infrastructure completely undetected." The Department of Homeland Security, Darpa, and other agencies are teaming up for a five-year, $30 billion "national cybersecurity iniative." That includes an electronic test range, where federally-funded hackers can test out the latest electronic attacks. "You used to need an army to wage a war," a recent Air Force commercial notes. "Now, all you need is an Internet connection." http://blog.wired.com/defense/2008/05/air-force-mater.html Question: If this is an Air Force commercial, can the Air Force be sued for false advertizing? Note: I am sure the backdoors in Microsoft and Apple operating systems will go a long way in helping the Air Force with their "hacking." Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/636857-air-force-aims-for-full-control-of-any-and-all-computer/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knife Party Posted May 14, 2008 Share Posted May 14, 2008 idiots :hmmm: :huh: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/636857-air-force-aims-for-full-control-of-any-and-all-computer/#findComment-589398918 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ring0 Posted May 14, 2008 Share Posted May 14, 2008 can't wait for a torrent of those puppies ;) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/636857-air-force-aims-for-full-control-of-any-and-all-computer/#findComment-589398922 Share on other sites More sharing options...
primexx Posted May 14, 2008 Share Posted May 14, 2008 love how it's called the "cybersecurity" initiative when it's really the cybercompromize initiative. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/636857-air-force-aims-for-full-control-of-any-and-all-computer/#findComment-589398926 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gigapixels Veteran Posted May 14, 2008 Veteran Share Posted May 14, 2008 love how it's called the "cybersecurity" initiative when it's really the cybercompromize initiative. Oh, but it's okay. Remember, the fight against terrorism grants the government the right to do anything it wants! :rolleyes: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/636857-air-force-aims-for-full-control-of-any-and-all-computer/#findComment-589398951 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkaic Posted May 14, 2008 Share Posted May 14, 2008 Oh god! I hope it fails horribly and gets blocked. Hello, aren't we allowed to have privacy? And don't tell me that this won't be used in unethical ways. I'm getting my tin-foil hat here. because in all honesty, this type of big brother crap scares me. Oh, but it's okay. Remember, the fight against terrorism grants the government the right to do anything it wants! :rolleyes: +1 Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/636857-air-force-aims-for-full-control-of-any-and-all-computer/#findComment-589398955 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Osiris Posted May 14, 2008 Share Posted May 14, 2008 Seems to be more smoke and mirrors then anything tangible. The smart appropach would be to take China's lead and go about it without announcing it to the world. Even the US Dept of Defence Annual report on China has bugger all information on China's information warfare divisions/capabilities/strategy. Seems like the smarter approach then rattling the cages of everyday people and annoucing you want to do this and that. This quote from the article is kinda cool though "The Air Force recently put together a "Cyberspace Command," with a charter to rule networks the way its fighter jets rule the skies." Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/636857-air-force-aims-for-full-control-of-any-and-all-computer/#findComment-589399016 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Borbus Posted May 14, 2008 Share Posted May 14, 2008 Glad I use free software. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/636857-air-force-aims-for-full-control-of-any-and-all-computer/#findComment-589399019 Share on other sites More sharing options...
n_K Posted May 14, 2008 Share Posted May 14, 2008 Glad I use free software. What, free open source software that the airforce can get the source to and look thru for bugs ? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/636857-air-force-aims-for-full-control-of-any-and-all-computer/#findComment-589399033 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Borbus Posted May 14, 2008 Share Posted May 14, 2008 What, free open source software that the airforce can get the source to and look thru for bugs ? Yes, exactly. Note: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linus%27s_Law Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/636857-air-force-aims-for-full-control-of-any-and-all-computer/#findComment-589399042 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sadelwo Posted May 14, 2008 Share Posted May 14, 2008 Wonder if they'll call it 'Skynet'? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/636857-air-force-aims-for-full-control-of-any-and-all-computer/#findComment-589399088 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jingarelho Posted May 14, 2008 Share Posted May 14, 2008 Oh, but it's okay. Remember, the fight against terrorism grants the government the right to do anything it wants! :rolleyes: not my government... skynet would be funny. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/636857-air-force-aims-for-full-control-of-any-and-all-computer/#findComment-589399089 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Gary7 Subscriber² Posted May 14, 2008 Subscriber² Share Posted May 14, 2008 So Cyber Terrorists can do whatever they want and the Air Force can't fight back. Absurd. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/636857-air-force-aims-for-full-control-of-any-and-all-computer/#findComment-589399111 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chele Posted May 14, 2008 Share Posted May 14, 2008 Oh, but it's okay. Remember, the fight against terrorism grants the government the right to do anything it wants! :rolleyes: Does the fight against terrorism grant the people the right to do whatever they want to stop the government's terrorism of the people? Before you know it we'll all have to wear camoflauge do-rags to disguise our thoughts. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/636857-air-force-aims-for-full-control-of-any-and-all-computer/#findComment-589399114 Share on other sites More sharing options...
abcdefg Posted May 14, 2008 Share Posted May 14, 2008 LolZ ! I have nothing to hide. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/636857-air-force-aims-for-full-control-of-any-and-all-computer/#findComment-589399347 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pupik Posted May 14, 2008 Share Posted May 14, 2008 Meh, I got nothing to hide. Let them spy on (and control) my bytes. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/636857-air-force-aims-for-full-control-of-any-and-all-computer/#findComment-589399356 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TruckWEB Posted May 14, 2008 Share Posted May 14, 2008 Glad I use free software. Why? Do you think they would stop at the software? They could force something in hardware (that can't be disabled)... So even the "free" software won't help you. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/636857-air-force-aims-for-full-control-of-any-and-all-computer/#findComment-589399358 Share on other sites More sharing options...
utdarkviper Posted May 14, 2008 Share Posted May 14, 2008 Why are you guys all talking about how they will spy on "us"? You do know that the purpose of this is to be able to spy on other nations and to make sure that we keep tabs on anything that they do using their computers. This is to virtually spy on other nations, not on the people of this one. Although, I wouldn't be surprised if that's the next step. The main focus will for sure be on other places though, so far this thread has been off-topic. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/636857-air-force-aims-for-full-control-of-any-and-all-computer/#findComment-589399379 Share on other sites More sharing options...
C_Guy Posted May 14, 2008 Share Posted May 14, 2008 Glad I use free software. Glad you got what you paid for. And since that has nothing to do with anything, try to stay on topic a little. Ha ha ha oh Wired. We know you have a horrible bias for Apple but now you're paranoid too? How do your magazines still sell?? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/636857-air-force-aims-for-full-control-of-any-and-all-computer/#findComment-589399389 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zab Posted May 14, 2008 Share Posted May 14, 2008 Glad i live in Canada, even though the government up here seems to be taking notes on how to screw our rights like the american one Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/636857-air-force-aims-for-full-control-of-any-and-all-computer/#findComment-589399427 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrewJW Posted May 14, 2008 Share Posted May 14, 2008 Skynet is coming. The end will be here soon. ;) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/636857-air-force-aims-for-full-control-of-any-and-all-computer/#findComment-589399469 Share on other sites More sharing options...
neufuse Veteran Posted May 14, 2008 Veteran Share Posted May 14, 2008 So to increase security we need to put holes in it... gota love that logic Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/636857-air-force-aims-for-full-control-of-any-and-all-computer/#findComment-589399488 Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevember Posted May 14, 2008 Share Posted May 14, 2008 Well to be honest when a geek/hacker can do real damage the protectors of democracy do need some ability to defend or fight back if case arises. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/636857-air-force-aims-for-full-control-of-any-and-all-computer/#findComment-589399493 Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Vivicidal- Posted May 14, 2008 Share Posted May 14, 2008 can't wait for a torrent of those puppies ;) I bet it will happen, too... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/636857-air-force-aims-for-full-control-of-any-and-all-computer/#findComment-589399538 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweetsam Posted May 14, 2008 Share Posted May 14, 2008 At this point of time the best security measure is to keep your network separate and not connected to the internet. I am sure people are aware and are already practicing it. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/636857-air-force-aims-for-full-control-of-any-and-all-computer/#findComment-589399624 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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