Ubuntu Muslim Edition 8.04

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Grand Master

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No one is laughing at muslims, control yourself.

Why make a whole distro for this? Why not install ubuntu, and *then* add the extra applications like normal people?

Better yet, why not get everyone to download the Linux kernel and give them a list of packages to install manually?

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Miuku.

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Better yet, why not get everyone to download the Linux kernel and give them a list of packages to install manually?

Your sarcasm fails.

Having a seperate distribution for X religion is just senseless - just install the standard <inserthere>Buntu and use a single script / package to install all the necessary programs, wallpapers, etc. that customizes the distribution to particular user group.

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Better yet, why not get everyone to download the Linux kernel and give them a list of packages to install manually?

Better yet, why not get everyone to write their own kernel? Because that would be ridiculous. Also, you don't just "install" packages on a kernel.

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I fail to understand what the problem is? :huh:

Sure people say "but why have it? you could do it yourself etc.."

But then I say why NOT have it? Is choice ever so bad? Is it bothering you? Does it have an impact on how you will use linux? Does it offend you in any way? ask yourself these questions and realise just how pointless complaining about this is...

Good to know theres a choice I will keep this in mind for some brothers...

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Your sarcasm fails.

Having a seperate distribution for X religion is just senseless - just install the standard <inserthere>Buntu and use a single script / package to install all the necessary programs, wallpapers, etc. that customizes the distribution to particular user group.

Maybe they do it for the same reason Neowin has its own distro - it's a great learning process and brings a community together. What's the problem with that? And why does that warrant poking fun at Islam?

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Having a seperate distribution for X religion is just senseless - just install the standard <inserthere>Buntu and use a single script / package to install all the necessary programs, wallpapers, etc. that customizes the distribution to particular user group.

But, if you are distributing CDs or such, is it not easier to just have a pre-packaged (and presumably checked) set of apps to "hand out" (even if handing out via a torrent download)?

People asked "why have an 'Ubuntu' version of Debian?" when Ubuntu first came out. I am sure that someone wisely pointed out that you can just have a standard Debian, with a script that customizes it into Ubuntu.

In the end, variety doesn't harm the Linux ecosystem. Those varieties that merit attention generally become popular based on those merits. Those that don't will typically fall to the wayside.

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Oh this is just too good! ;)

Maybe we should have a faceoff between making a Hillary Clintion Edition and Barrack Obama edition?

I was just going to be ironic about how people like to relate everything to the religion, and the real aim of having a religion is actually being contradicted, but yours did the job!

Oh crap! Did I really read whatwouldjesusdownload.com on that Christian website? :facepalm

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Julius Caro

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But, if you are distributing CDs or such, is it not easier to just have a pre-packaged (and presumably checked) set of apps to "hand out" (even if handing out via a torrent download)?

People asked "why have an 'Ubuntu' version of Debian?" when Ubuntu first came out. I am sure that someone wisely pointed out that you can just have a standard Debian, with a script that customizes it into Ubuntu.

In the end, variety doesn't harm the Linux ecosystem. Those varieties that merit attention generally become popular based on those merits. Those that don't will typically fall to the wayside.

I was just going to post this, hehe. I dont think there's anything bad in doing this. Perhaps, by releasing a muslim edition, ubuntu will appeal to more people than it does now. It will still be ubuntu, after all. There's a christian edition too, and I believe reading a dicussion about how they wanted to remove any reference to the user on how to install DVD decrypting software since it was legally dubious. So, people have morals and beliefs. But it seems that some other people simply don't have respect.

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That's just wrong. No need to make fun of their religion.

I agree. If I had a say, this thread would be closed for a serious lack of respect of people's religious inclinations. :yes:

If there was another reason for this thread other than the prurient and despicable, I'd like to know it.

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Miuku.

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Did I suspect it would a troll-magnet? Of course.

Questioning the logic of having YET another distribution version that once again fragments the landscape is "trolling"?

Yes, I'm against the ridicilous fragmentation and the fifty thousand distribution versions - why you ask? Because I have to deal with supporting different platforms, different damn library combinations and idiotic packagers who force us to re-compile specific applications or supply hand compiled libraries because their particular distribution has one library/application version difference to the upstream source and thus breaks a load of things. Of course this means your package manager just became useless due to having non-deb/non-rpm/non-whatever packages dropped into the system. Depedency hell awaits.

Yes, we can drop compatibility compat-libraries and applications, yes we can patch in fifty different ways to make it work but at the end of the day it's all extra work that's completely useless and should never be necessary.

At the end of the day, there are too many <cussing> distributions.

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The reason I posted it was because I myself had never heard of this distro and I thought others, particularly those of the islamic faith, would like to know.

Did I suspect it would a troll-magnet? Of course.

This here is like the one of few dudes that have this realm of understanding I can comprehend to.

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'Muslim Edition' is a stupid name for an Operating System - or any kind of software really. Not all people that speak/read Arabic etc are Muslim. Some are Christian, some are completely Atheist.

Im trying my best not to bring religion into this, but that's what it's all about.

This should just be a bunch of packages, not a whole new distribution. Waste of time and resources.

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TheElite

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The reason I posted it was because I myself had never heard of this distro and I thought others, particularly those of the islamic faith, would like to know.

Did I suspect it would a troll-magnet? Of course.

I never thought that you posted it due to getting some flame war started, but to just inform people about it.

Cheers though, as it may just bring me to the Linux side. I would have probably never used a distro before due to not knowing how to customize, etc. This just makes it a bit easier.

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Doli

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Questioning the logic of having YET another distribution version that once again fragments the landscape is "trolling"?

Yes, I'm against the ridicilous fragmentation and the fifty thousand distribution versions - why you ask? Because I have to deal with supporting different platforms, different damn library combinations and idiotic packagers who force us to re-compile specific applications or supply hand compiled libraries because their particular distribution has one library/application version difference to the upstream source and thus breaks a load of things. Of course this means your package manager just became useless due to having non-deb/non-rpm/non-whatever packages dropped into the system. Depedency hell awaits.

Yes, we can drop compatibility compat-libraries and applications, yes we can patch in fifty different ways to make it work but at the end of the day it's all extra work that's completely useless and should never be necessary.

At the end of the day, there are too many <cussing> distributions.

Thats one of the key features of Linux (and open source), people can modify it and redistributed it.

I just can't see the reason to have a whole different distro, if all you're going to do is make 3 or so extra packages installed by default and change the login theme.

People in the UbuntuME formus seem happy about it, that looks like reson enough to keep on making it. This could get more people to try Linux. +ZAnwar said it best:

Cheers though, as it may just bring me to the Linux side. I would have probably never used a distro before due to not knowing how to customize, etc. This just makes it a bit easier.

Ubuntu Studio made it easy for me to try linux with a couple of apps that I like already installed since I was still learning to download and install apps from the command prompt if I couldnt find the apps in the synaptic package manager.

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