EduardValencia Posted May 24, 2008 Share Posted May 24, 2008 Yep that's a nice feature we can see implemented Windows 7,i hope this one and many more comes with the new version Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/638734-windows-7-to-add-native-support-for-virtual-hard-disks/page/2/#findComment-589424574 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Live Veteran Posted May 24, 2008 Veteran Share Posted May 24, 2008 Tom Servo said: And booting from VHDs? What's the point? Windows ****s all over itself if main components like mainboard chipset or CPU change (the emulated environment in a VM is a different one than your real one). Not to mention the funky performance loss on disk IO due to NTFS -> VHD -> NTFS, especially with Windows' ****ty IO scheduler. Riiiiight... the IO scheduler that Linux has taken over a decade to come close to catching up with. Uh huh. I swapped out a motherboard + CPU a few weeks ago on this very system. Vista had absolutely no problems detecting the new hardware and booting up just fine. On my Macbook I can boot between VMware and the native partition via BootCamp, and have no troubles at all. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/638734-windows-7-to-add-native-support-for-virtual-hard-disks/page/2/#findComment-589424577 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iian K Posted May 24, 2008 Share Posted May 24, 2008 About time someone jumped the gun and started thinking Logically. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/638734-windows-7-to-add-native-support-for-virtual-hard-disks/page/2/#findComment-589424578 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neo003 Posted May 24, 2008 Share Posted May 24, 2008 M2Ys4U said: I have a nice hat that you might be interested in... it's made from tin foil! No thanks I already have one :laugh:, it's in my basement which is covered with alien repelling agent. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/638734-windows-7-to-add-native-support-for-virtual-hard-disks/page/2/#findComment-589424591 Share on other sites More sharing options...
zerologic Posted May 24, 2008 Share Posted May 24, 2008 Sounds great. But, we should all take a deep breath, remember all the promises of Vista? So, if Microsoft delivers. Top marks. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/638734-windows-7-to-add-native-support-for-virtual-hard-disks/page/2/#findComment-589424772 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long Posted May 24, 2008 Share Posted May 24, 2008 Maybe not so impossible. http://www.istartedsomething.com/20080523/...ual-hard-disks/ Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/638734-windows-7-to-add-native-support-for-virtual-hard-disks/page/2/#findComment-589424839 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glowstick Posted May 24, 2008 Share Posted May 24, 2008 Brandon Live said: Riiiiight... the IO scheduler that Linux has taken over a decade to come close to catching up with. Uh huh. Yeah, right, the Windows SCAN scheduler is the pinnacle of IO scheduling. Go away. Brandon Live said: I swapped out a motherboard + CPU a few weeks ago on this very system. Vista had absolutely no problems detecting the new hardware and booting up just fine. On my Macbook I can boot between VMware and the native partition via BootCamp, and have no troubles at all. I switched mainboard and CPU too a few weeks ago, coincidentally. Vista however decided to do a boot loop. That did really help, so much for that. And I didn't even change CPU architecture, e.g. from Intel to AMD or the other way. Long said: Maybe not so impossible. I've already posted that this driver is available since quite some time now. That screenshot means exactly squat. Quote New Features in Virtual Server R2 SP1VHD Mount Command-line Tool and APIs Provides the ability to mount a virtual hard disk file (.vhd file) as a virtual disk device on another operating system. http://www.microsoft.com/technet/virtualse...vsoverview.mspx Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/638734-windows-7-to-add-native-support-for-virtual-hard-disks/page/2/#findComment-589425247 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amano Posted May 24, 2008 Share Posted May 24, 2008 Sounds nice for me! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/638734-windows-7-to-add-native-support-for-virtual-hard-disks/page/2/#findComment-589425640 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Live Veteran Posted May 24, 2008 Veteran Share Posted May 24, 2008 Tom Servo said: Yeah, right, the Windows SCAN scheduler is the pinnacle of IO scheduling. Go away. Yeah, because you obviously know so much about how NT works. Seriously, don't most Linux systems still lack I/O prioritization? Cancellable I/O? Last I recall they still don't support propogating I/O completion tasks to user-mode threads, either. I was mainly talking about how far behind Linux used to be, before the 2.6 kernel, or before AIO started to become adopted. Things seem to be more evenly matched, these days. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/638734-windows-7-to-add-native-support-for-virtual-hard-disks/page/2/#findComment-589425677 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glowstick Posted May 25, 2008 Share Posted May 25, 2008 Brandon Live said: Yeah, because you obviously know so much about how NT works. Then tell me how the scheduler works! You're always telling me I'm full of myself, yet never spill the beans to actually correct me. Until then, I rely and believe what I find elsewhere, and they tell me it's a crappy SCAN algorithm. Brandon Live said: Seriously, don't most Linux systems still lack I/O prioritization? Cancellable I/O? Last I recall they still don't support propogating I/O completion tasks to user-mode threads, either.I was mainly talking about how far behind Linux used to be, before the 2.6 kernel, or before AIO started to become adopted. Things seem to be more evenly matched, these days. How would I know? Does it look like I'm a Linux user? But seriously, Linux comes with prioritization and cancellable IO. Who the hell knows about completition tasks, ask an actual Linux user. But hey, good job picking arguments that are completely silly, because it took the release of Vista for Windows to get the stuff you're holding against me as an argument. Linux had at least the two things I mentioned around Vista's release timeframe already. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/638734-windows-7-to-add-native-support-for-virtual-hard-disks/page/2/#findComment-589427214 Share on other sites More sharing options...
doncoyote.cl Posted May 25, 2008 Share Posted May 25, 2008 ... and Microsoft promises this... and then promises that... and then the promises are not accomplished The same story over and over again. Let's see the final product, then we talk. -Rodrigo Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/638734-windows-7-to-add-native-support-for-virtual-hard-disks/page/2/#findComment-589427647 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Dee Posted May 25, 2008 Share Posted May 25, 2008 My sources say Windows 7 will be merged with Linux to form a new distribution of Unix called Windex. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/638734-windows-7-to-add-native-support-for-virtual-hard-disks/page/2/#findComment-589427716 Share on other sites More sharing options...
EduardValencia Posted May 25, 2008 Share Posted May 25, 2008 Mr. Dee said: My sources say Windows 7 will be merged with Linux to form a new distribution of Unix called Windex. Yup the oracle said that to me,we can't change the destiny :D Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/638734-windows-7-to-add-native-support-for-virtual-hard-disks/page/2/#findComment-589427959 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HalcyonX12 Posted May 25, 2008 Share Posted May 25, 2008 Will you be allowed to install your OS multiple times for each of these VHDs or do you need a separate license for each? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/638734-windows-7-to-add-native-support-for-virtual-hard-disks/page/2/#findComment-589428030 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+M2Ys4U Subscriber¹ Posted May 25, 2008 Subscriber¹ Share Posted May 25, 2008 doncoyote.cl said: ... and Microsoft promises this... and then promises that... and then the promises are not accomplishedThe same story over and over again. Let's see the final product, then we talk. -Rodrigo You do know this is an advert for employees not a "LOOK HOW SHINY THIS IS!" thing, right? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/638734-windows-7-to-add-native-support-for-virtual-hard-disks/page/2/#findComment-589428074 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slimy Posted May 25, 2008 Share Posted May 25, 2008 zer0l0gic said: Sounds great. But, we should all take a deep breath, remember all the promises of Vista?So, if Microsoft delivers. Top marks. doncoyote.cl said: ... and Microsoft promises this... and then promises that... and then the promises are not accomplishedThe same story over and over again. Let's see the final product, then we talk. -Rodrigo Microsoft isn't promising anything. Read the article. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/638734-windows-7-to-add-native-support-for-virtual-hard-disks/page/2/#findComment-589428435 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarStorm Posted May 25, 2008 Share Posted May 25, 2008 Emil Protalinski said: Microsoft isn't promising anything. Read the article. Well said. This is the reason y some are disappointed with vista... they hear this, hear that...believe everything.. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/638734-windows-7-to-add-native-support-for-virtual-hard-disks/page/2/#findComment-589428459 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajua Posted May 26, 2008 Share Posted May 26, 2008 Quote I have a nice hat that you might be interested in... it's made from tin foil! lol VHD native support would be a more than welcome addition. Also the virtual drive or disc for mountin disc images would be great. Or at least native support for creating virual folder that run on ram. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/638734-windows-7-to-add-native-support-for-virtual-hard-disks/page/2/#findComment-589428632 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dodgetigger Posted May 26, 2008 Share Posted May 26, 2008 Um, isn't that a feature that was supposed to be in Vista already? I remember I read somewhere that Vista will have the ability to mount vhds that are used by Virtual PC. Later when I got my hands on Vista, I was quite frustrated when I found out it didn't work. This is just one of the features that should have been in Vista, and now is coming in the next version. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/638734-windows-7-to-add-native-support-for-virtual-hard-disks/page/2/#findComment-589429362 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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