Mr. Gibs Posted May 27, 2008 Share Posted May 27, 2008 Seriously doubt that if Iran had nukes, they would use them. Seriously doubt it. I don't. Hell he even claimed that the Holocaust was a lie. The reason of a nuke in the middle east is whoever has it, pretty much secures their future. If say Lebanon got the nuke before Israel, it makes Lebanon more powerful and Israel can't do much about it. Not that it means if Israel attacks, lebanon would drop a nuke on them. It works the same way if Israel got a nuke. It's a deterant, and thats pretty much it. Though there are some people who would use the nuke if they ever got their hands on it, and I think that Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is one of them. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/639387-israel-has-150-nuclear-weapons/page/2/#findComment-589431655 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+SOOPRcow MVC Posted May 27, 2008 MVC Share Posted May 27, 2008 President Carter seems to be trying his best to undermine US foreign policy as much and as often as he can. It's pretty sad. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/639387-israel-has-150-nuclear-weapons/page/2/#findComment-589431658 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAID 0 Posted May 27, 2008 Share Posted May 27, 2008 President Carter seems to be trying his best to undermine US foreign policy as much and as often as he can. It's pretty sad. What else would you expect from a peanut farmer? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/639387-israel-has-150-nuclear-weapons/page/2/#findComment-589431711 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dance. Posted May 27, 2008 Share Posted May 27, 2008 The war after next will be fought with bow and arrows :rolleyes:. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/639387-israel-has-150-nuclear-weapons/page/2/#findComment-589431746 Share on other sites More sharing options...
daniel_rh Posted May 27, 2008 Share Posted May 27, 2008 When you say that a person is a Fruitcake what does that means? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/639387-israel-has-150-nuclear-weapons/page/2/#findComment-589431754 Share on other sites More sharing options...
revvo Posted May 27, 2008 Share Posted May 27, 2008 Here we go again with the "I'm sure Iran or extremist terrorist groups would use nukes". These guys are nuts, but not entirely stupid. Just imagine the chain of events that would follow the moment after the launch of a nuclear warhead aimed at a city, any city regardless if it's on Jews or Muslims or Caucasians, you name it and there will be a price to pay. It certainly won't go unnoticed and whoever fired it better be ready to get his ass kicked because I don't think the world (America) would respond very cordially, especially if Israel would get hit. If someone does decide to launch a nuke, it still won't break into a nuclear war because we all know what that would lead, totally nothing except ****ing us over. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/639387-israel-has-150-nuclear-weapons/page/2/#findComment-589431766 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Gibs Posted May 27, 2008 Share Posted May 27, 2008 Here we go again with the "I'm sure Iran or extremist terrorist groups would use nukes".These guys are nuts, but not entirely stupid. Just imagine the chain of events that would follow the moment after the launch of a nuclear warhead aimed at a city, any city regardless if it's on Jews or Muslims or Caucasians, you name it and there will be a price to pay. It certainly won't go unnoticed and whoever fired it better be ready to get his ass kicked because I don't think the world (America) would respond very cordially, especially if Israel would get hit. If someone does decide to launch a nuke, it still won't break into a nuclear war because we all know what that would lead, totally nothing except ****ing us over. Well if say terrorist groups cared what the worlds thinks, they wouldn't exist now would they? If they can get on a bus/plane, into a shopping mall etc etc and kill innocent people, you think they give a crap about what the world thinks if they launch a nuke? Also, there was a time when building a nuke required knowledge not many people possessed. Let alone the parts. Today building a nuke is like putting together your computer, the tools are commonplace, the knowledge is readily available etc. Only difficult thing it requires is to get your hands on some uranium/plutonium. When you say that a person is a Fruitcake what does that means? Means they're mad/insane etc though I've also seen it used to mean gay. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/639387-israel-has-150-nuclear-weapons/page/2/#findComment-589431775 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draconian Guppy Posted May 27, 2008 Share Posted May 27, 2008 to those asking, all atomic bombs are nuclear bombs. But not all nuclear bombs are atomic bombs. Some nuclear bombs are hydrogen bombs. There are two types of nukes: The atomic bomb (A-bomb), which generates energy by nuclear fission. The hydrogen bomb (H-bomb), which generates energy by nuclear fusion. Much more powerful than the A-bomb. Anyway I can see the USA going to war because the weapons Israelis have can be used for mass destructions ( because the ones in the USA obviously can't :rolleyes: ) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/639387-israel-has-150-nuclear-weapons/page/2/#findComment-589431797 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Gibs Posted May 27, 2008 Share Posted May 27, 2008 Anyway I can see the USA going to war because the weapons Israelis have can be used for mass destructions You on crack? :| USA and Israel would prob never go to war with each other... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/639387-israel-has-150-nuclear-weapons/page/2/#findComment-589431801 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draconian Guppy Posted May 27, 2008 Share Posted May 27, 2008 You on crack? :| USA and Israel would prob never go to war with each other... Yeah cause of the holy land and what not... Just wait till oil prices soar a bit more :p Edit: I remember reading a book on freaky-maybe-true world domination stories, on how the "holy land" aka jerusalem, Israel, controlled all the major governments in the world... Wait I forgot my tin foil hat :p Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/639387-israel-has-150-nuclear-weapons/page/2/#findComment-589431806 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Gibs Posted May 27, 2008 Share Posted May 27, 2008 Yeah cause of the holy land and what not... Just wait till oil prices soar a bit more :p Then I think you mean Saudi Arabia ;) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/639387-israel-has-150-nuclear-weapons/page/2/#findComment-589431809 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draconian Guppy Posted May 27, 2008 Share Posted May 27, 2008 Then I think you mean Saudi Arabia ;) Nope, Seriously, wait till oil prices soar a bit more, the USA will start drilling down your backyard... Any way, we're drifting... On topic: Big deal, nuke smuck, Whats the purpose of having so many nukes stored E-nuke-penis? if 20 maybe less would cause global chaos. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/639387-israel-has-150-nuclear-weapons/page/2/#findComment-589431815 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Windam Posted May 27, 2008 Share Posted May 27, 2008 There are real violations going on in places in Burma. where the Military Junta prevented medical and food aid when 100,000 died from hurricane. not to mention Tibet,China... thats just in my neighborhood. Then you got Darfur, African conflicts, Zimbabwe....,, Terrorists. anything to detract the real issue of terrorism You people put the whole continent of Africa in it's conflict because of Africa's mineral resources. You turn their people against each other, further divide them and take what doesn't belong to you for yourselfs. Make no mistake that any argument or comeback against this truth you will only dig yourself a bigger hole amongst the other lies you have spoken. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/639387-israel-has-150-nuclear-weapons/page/2/#findComment-589431847 Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeroday Posted May 27, 2008 Share Posted May 27, 2008 I wander why no one asks Israel to open up for inspections from IAEA. Anyone else find it hypocritical that they and their allies complain about Iran not being open while ignoring that Israel has never allowed inspections? There are real violations going on in places in Burma. where the Military Junta prevented medical and food aid when 100,000 died from hurricane. not to mention Tibet,China... thats just in my neighborhood. Then you got Darfur, African conflicts, Zimbabwe....,, Terrorists. There have been documented cases where ambulances with pregnant women or ill people have been prevented to going past checkpoints and people dying as a result, but anyway, thats beyond the point. Seriously doubt that if Iran had nukes, they would use them. Seriously doubt it. Here we go again with the "I'm sure Iran or extremist terrorist groups would use nukes".<snipped> (Y) Terrorists might do it since it would be (almost) impossible to put the blame on a country but Iran isn't stupid. They would be asking, heck begging, to be completely wiped out if they even dared to point a nuke at a western ally. The US was ready to nuke the Soviets when they wanted to put nukes in Cuba, Iran knows what the consequences would be, especially considering they are much less powerful then what the Soviets were. What else would you expect from a peanut farmer? :rolleyes: Can't respond to what he says, so attack him personally. So what if he was a peanut farmer, he's gotten further then you ever will and contributed more then you ever will. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/639387-israel-has-150-nuclear-weapons/page/2/#findComment-589432672 Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.F.D.K Posted May 27, 2008 Share Posted May 27, 2008 (edited) The World is full of selfish pricks, selfish countries, selfish governments and so on. No country should have nukes, what makes you think that, you can have nukes but not your neighbour! There is so much injustice in this pile of ****ty World. If you have the so called "rights" to have nukes for blah blah reasons than expect everyone around you and everywhere else to have them too. What ****es me off is the countries such as UK and USA complaining about Iran and other middle east having nukes and they will use it against us blah blah. No country has any rights to tell another country what to do and how to do things. Its like hey I can have a car but my neighbour should not be allowed to have one! I wonder how all these western countries would feel if Iran e.g told them that they are not allowed to have nukes but Iran itself is..! Anyway this thread is pointless, woow Israel has nukes, yeah would of been a woow if Iran was the only one to have them but that's not the case is it! So far in history we know only one country has used a nuke and no need for naming it. One thing for sure that we know is that, who ever pulls the trigger (press the button) on those nukes first, we are pretty much wiped out. Edited May 27, 2008 by M.F.D.K Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/639387-israel-has-150-nuclear-weapons/page/2/#findComment-589432795 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt-DavidW Posted May 27, 2008 Share Posted May 27, 2008 Possessing nukes is one country's way of holding another country's citizens hostage. That's the top and bottom of it. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/639387-israel-has-150-nuclear-weapons/page/2/#findComment-589432844 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deletedforeverhaha Posted May 27, 2008 Author Share Posted May 27, 2008 You think Iran would use nuclear weapons if it has one? In your dreams. No country... I mean NO country would use one against Israel or Russia or the US because if it did, then the country would cease to exist in a month. Its cities will be decimated without any forethought. The Iranian government is not stupid in one way. They were elected to lead the country because of the ridiculous involvement of the US when Iran tried to nationalize its oil. I love people refuse to look at the whole perspective from an unbiased perspective. It's like fanboys but on a political scale. Apple vs. Mac = Israel lobby vs. Iran/Middle Eastern lobby. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/639387-israel-has-150-nuclear-weapons/page/2/#findComment-589433140 Share on other sites More sharing options...
neufuse Veteran Posted May 27, 2008 Veteran Share Posted May 27, 2008 Would anyone EVER use nukes against Israel? Here is one reason why, it's a holy site for MANY reigions... would would they destroy their own holy land? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/639387-israel-has-150-nuclear-weapons/page/2/#findComment-589433144 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Gary7 Subscriber² Posted May 27, 2008 Subscriber² Share Posted May 27, 2008 Would anyone EVER use nukes against Israel? Here is one reason why, it's a holy site for MANY reigions... would would they destroy their own holy land? Obviously not, I would hope. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/639387-israel-has-150-nuclear-weapons/page/2/#findComment-589433149 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sethos Posted May 27, 2008 Share Posted May 27, 2008 Deterrence, deterrence and deterrence Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/639387-israel-has-150-nuclear-weapons/page/2/#findComment-589433155 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deletedforeverhaha Posted May 27, 2008 Author Share Posted May 27, 2008 Would anyone EVER use nukes against Israel? Here is one reason why, it's a holy site for MANY reigions... would would they destroy their own holy land? It's only a small area of land. The term "holy" is only added because it has sentimental value for religious people. Military leaders and presidents don't look at things emotionally. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/639387-israel-has-150-nuclear-weapons/page/2/#findComment-589433428 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyLock Posted May 27, 2008 Share Posted May 27, 2008 That's OK, the Bush regime will say that Israel "has a right to defend itself". I guess other countries don't have the same right, like Iran. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/639387-israel-has-150-nuclear-weapons/page/2/#findComment-589433444 Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeroday Posted May 27, 2008 Share Posted May 27, 2008 Would anyone EVER use nukes against Israel? Here is one reason why, it's a holy site for MANY reigions... would would they destroy their own holy land? Exactly. Imagine the reaction from the Muslim and Jewish community if a country blew up Al Aqsa mosque. The retaliation from the other governments would be the last of their worry. It's only a small area of land. The term "holy" is only added because it has sentimental value for religious people. Military leaders and presidents don't look at things emotionally. No, but they would consider the possible consequences of their actions, and blowing up something with such religious importance is asking for major trouble. In the case of Iran, nuking that area would be suicide. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/639387-israel-has-150-nuclear-weapons/page/2/#findComment-589433446 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyLock Posted May 27, 2008 Share Posted May 27, 2008 Interesting info found on Wikipedia: #Dude, where is Iran on this list? What's that? You mean to say Idan doesn't have one? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/639387-israel-has-150-nuclear-weapons/page/2/#findComment-589433451 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deletedforeverhaha Posted May 27, 2008 Author Share Posted May 27, 2008 No, but they would consider the possible consequences of their actions, and blowing up something with such religious importance is asking for major trouble. In the case of Iran, nuking that area would be suicide. I was just clarifying that people don't like to mess around with Jereusalem and such places because too many people hold that land in high regard even though it's just a piece of land. When push comes to shove and someone is threatened or wants revenge then it wouldn't even matter if it's holy land or not. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/639387-israel-has-150-nuclear-weapons/page/2/#findComment-589433479 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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