Euro 2008

[Alfista]

Ok one more injury for Turkey. we were suppose to be with 2 goalkeepers and 12 players (14 people) in the squad against germany but Ayhan Akman wont be able to play as well. So down to 2 goalkeepers and 11 players... so we only have 2 substitutions to make against germany.

darn it.

the price we have to pay for last minute goals :(

not to mention our second substitution will be our goalkeeper.

you guys still think Turkey can win?

:(

[Setnom]

you guys still think Turkey can win?

But of course! They are more creative than Portugal! So they can "create" more goals than Germany! :p

This thread is funny as hell. It's more fun to read it than to post in it!

[Kralik]

unfortunately i agree :(

I dont! There is always hope.. one red card for Ballack in 3rd min and injury to Scheinstigger and Turkey will be through... just like the "great" world champs beat France.. Patheitc losers! Im glad they are out.. although i wouldve love to see my Russia make mince meat out of them :p

But of course! They are more creative than Portugal! So they can "create" more goals than Germany!

This thread is funny as hell. It's more fun to read it than to post in it!

creating and finishing are two different things... even Russia is more creative than Portugal.. e.g. the Sweden game.. they created so many chances that they should've won atleast 5-0, 6-0 but they didnt finish them... So no one said Turkey will score more goals.. they just said they will create oppotunities to score.

Anyways.. I dont think Turkey is more creative than Portugal... but NO ONE except maybe the Russians play with that spirit and national pride as the Turks and you have to give them credit for that... on that alone they deserve to be where they are and seeing a lot of teams who just go out there and waste everyones time and bore everyone to sleep.. Turkey are a smth good to see as a spectator of the beautiful game...

They should just keep believing coz thats how they got this far.. they should know that Germany lost to Croatia and they beat Croatia so their is a chance for them to beat Germany... it will be hard.. but impossible is nothing! its just IM possible ;)

Edited June 24, 2008 by Kralik

[profets]

I dont! There is always hope.. one red card for Ballack in 3rd min and injury to Scheinstigger and Turkey will be through... just like the "great" world champs beat France.. Patheitc losers! Im glad they are out.. although i wouldve love to see my Russia make mince meat out them :p

thanks for the insult, really...

[Kralik]

thanks for the insult, really...

I think thats called freedom of speech ;)

[Kralik]

Btw what do guys think is France's problem?? They didnt win anything! and coming to Euro they were favorites for many ppl including Martin O'Neill.. what I think is wrong with them is the coach.. they are an attacking team with players like Henry,Benzema,Nasri,Ribery,Ben Arfa who can play Dutch type football but the coach doesnt let them! His game plan s based on defence and its hard to argue thats working when u give away 2-3 goals a game :p French should fire him and bring in someone like van Basten or Wenger (although we wont let him go) so French can really play the way they love..

Same was the problem with Azurri.. the coach Donadonni. IMHO Lippi should be back coz it seems sometimes Donadonni doesnt have a clue as to what he is doing!

Edited June 24, 2008 by Kralik

[profets]

I think thats called freedom of speech ;)

i know, but still. if all we did was instult different teams in this thread then whats the point.

anyway, italy and france both had a bad tournament. france worse i'd say. they really seemed not to click as a team. not sure why domenech left players like frey, flamini, or trezeguay at home.

even donadoni seemed weird. brutal lineup in the first game. materazzi & barzagli in center defense, esp when materazzi had a pretty bad season. this is where it really hurt that cannavaro was injured and nesta retires while he's still able to play. why he didnt at least start chiellini from game 1 when hes been playing good at juve i dont know

even with the defense fixed, they really lacked a decent offense. i know toni gets ripped apart but cant blame him alone. he did score (and have it incorrectly called back) against romania, and setup what was the pk against france. but he needed a real striker as a partner upfront. and someone behind them to play the way totti did.

now we have rumours of lippi making a comeback with totti & nesta coming out of retirement. who knows..

[Kralik]

Ok one more injury for Turkey. we were suppose to be with 2 goalkeepers and 12 players (14 people) in the squad against germany but Ayhan Akman wont be able to play as well. So down to 2 goalkeepers and 11 players... so we only have 2 substitutions to make against germany.

darn it.

the price we have to pay for last minute goals :(

not to mention our second substitution will be our goalkeeper.

you guys still think Turkey can win?

:(

Turkey can be proud of the campaign for sure.. i wont say "bad luck" coz you can control the suspensions atleast.. having said that.. even if they dont win the cup.. they have won a lot of hearts.. they played in the last minutes like they were possessed.. gave us finishes like we see in hollywood sport movies!! and made a lot of memories.. Euro08 might be rem as the year Turkey kept coming back)

[Kralik]

i know, but still. if all we did was instult different teams in this thread then whats the point.

anyway, italy and france both had a bad tournament. france worse i'd say. they really seemed not to click as a team. not sure why domenech left players like frey, flamini, or trezeguay at home.

even donadoni seemed weird. brutal lineup in the first game. materazzi & barzagli in center defense, esp when materazzi had a pretty bad season. this is where it really hurt that cannavaro was injured and nesta retires while he's still able to play. why he didnt at least start chiellini from game 1 when hes been playing good at juve i dont know

even with the defense fixed, they really lacked a decent offense. i know toni gets ripped apart but cant blame him alone. he did score (and have it incorrectly called back) against romania, and setup what was the pk against france. but he needed a real striker as a partner upfront. and someone behind them to play the way totti did.

now we have rumours of lippi making a comeback with totti & nesta coming out of retirement. who knows..

Sorry! meant no offence.. im just like this.. say what i mean.. straight forward! You are right Italy and France both did bad.. you are forgetting the current champs.. Greece.. they had a shocker! :p But there is a level of play we expect to see from the world champs.. and Italy is just not showing us anything that would justify them being the world champs since they won the worldcup. Its bad for the game :(

[Kralik]

i know, but still. if all we did was instult different teams in this thread then whats the point.

anyway, italy and france both had a bad tournament. france worse i'd say. they really seemed not to click as a team. not sure why domenech left players like frey, flamini, or trezeguay at home.

even donadoni seemed weird. brutal lineup in the first game. materazzi & barzagli in center defense, esp when materazzi had a pretty bad season. this is where it really hurt that cannavaro was injured and nesta retires while he's still able to play. why he didnt at least start chiellini from game 1 when hes been playing good at juve i dont know

even with the defense fixed, they really lacked a decent offense. i know toni gets ripped apart but cant blame him alone. he did score (and have it incorrectly called back) against romania, and setup what was the pk against france. but he needed a real striker as a partner upfront. and someone behind them to play the way totti did.

now we have rumours of lippi making a comeback with totti & nesta coming out of retirement. who knows..

Yeaaaaaaah!!! :o where was Totti???? Sorry but Im out of touch on Serie A.. :blush: Why didnt Inzaghi and Vieri come? They are old.. but they get goals.. more than what Cassano and Toni did! and the real surprise was del Piero didnt sart even a single game.. seeing his form against the Dutch.. i would start him every game since.. yes.. Lippi is way better.. its all abt knowing what you have..

[instant.human]

i really liked the discussions in this treat... up until like page 4 or something.

enjoy the euro 2008, folks. im outta here. i really dont need to watch fellow neowinians be insulted and regarded as "less worth" or whatever.

wednsdays game will be fun, so enjoy it, everyone!

cheers!

[Scirwode]

i really liked the discussions in this treat... up until like page 4 or something.

enjoy the euro 2008, folks. im outta here. i really dont need to watch fellow neowinians be insulted and regarded as "less worth" or whatever.

wednsdays game will be fun, so enjoy it, everyone!

cheers!

Too true.

Scirwode

[profets]

Yeaaaaaaah!!! :o where was Totti???? Sorry but Im out of touch on Serie A.. :blush: Why didnt Inzaghi and Vieri come? They are old.. but they get goals.. more than what Cassano and Toni did! and the real surprise was del Piero didnt sart even a single game.. seeing his form against the Dutch.. i would start him every game since.. yes.. Lippi is way better.. its all abt knowing what you have..

haha, totti. i think he is a great player, and fits into a spot that italy really need. never always liked his attitude/personality for some reason though.

i think a lot of people felt differently but i thought inzaghi should have been included in the 23. i know he's older and stuff, but after his injury he started scoring like crazy for milan in the final 3-4 months of the season. even if don brought him and kept him on the bench it wouldnt hurt to have him available to throw on for the last 30 minutes of a game. he brings guys like quagliarella, dinatale, borriello (who i dont mind too much), but these guys have no international experience at all. and besides dinatale never stepped on the field anyway.

ah well, on with the semis tomorrow!

[Alfista]

i really liked the discussions in this treat... up until like page 4 or something.

enjoy the euro 2008, folks. im outta here. i really dont need to watch fellow neowinians be insulted and regarded as "less worth" or whatever.

wednsdays game will be fun, so enjoy it, everyone!

cheers!

please comeback.

I see that you are such a person control of everything and at an incredible maturity, i really wish we could discuss some football with you.

Good luck to your team against my team.

i dont expect a win but you never know.

[maplecookie Veteran]

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[Rappy Veteran]

Italy have parted company with coach Roberto Donadoni following their exit from Euro 2008.

BBC Sport was told of the decision by the Italian football federation (FIGC) after speculation grew around Donadoni's future after the Spain loss.

He signed a two-year contract extension before Euro 2008 - but it contained a 10-day get-out clause on both sides.

Italy lost their quarter-final 4-2 on penalties after a goalless 120 minutes of play

[brentaal]

It was bound to happen... imho

I don't think anyone was satisfied with the way Italy played... People had much higher expectations...

[L3thal Veteran]

I was expecting more from them for sure. I am glad they are out of the tournament but they did not show any life throughout the tournament.

[Scirwode]

It was bound to happen... imho

I don't think anyone was satisfied with the way Italy played... People had much higher expectations...

I think what was most surprising was how bad Italy played against Holland, that set the tone for the rest of their matches.

Scirwode

[MrChainsaw]

Who do you think will win tomorows match? I think Germany will.

[Kralik]

That is the right thing to do.. French should follow the Italians and bring in an attack minded coach..

Who do you think will win tomorows match? I think Germany will.

No one can say for sure with this Turkish team.. Germany has a better chance than Turks at the moment.. but you never know.. as they say game is not played on paper.. if Germans are complasent or get 1 or 2 cards early in the game or an injury and the game can turn on its head...

I think Turks will play defence and try to limit Germans to 0-1 goal and then launch near the end..

Edited June 24, 2008 by Kralik

[profets]

I think what was most surprising was how bad Italy played against Holland, that set the tone for the rest of their matches.

Scirwode

definitely. and of course the sacking was bound to happen.

i think he made very poor choice with the opening game lineup. throughout the tournament they lacked the offense to really produce goals. but the defense setup in the first game was bad choice. materazzi & barzagli really shouldnt have been in the center like that. losing cannvaro really hurt them. it showed with holland especially with those 2 goals being on the counter attack, how poorly those guys did in the center defense.

[Martyn]

Italy were completely dire all tournament.

The only good performers for them were Pirlo and Buffon. Their negative defensive containing football backfired on them in the end. They are World Champions for God's sake, they should be able to play football!

[L3thal Veteran]

Blame the coach, not the players. I never saw Donadoni as a good coach for the national team.

[NoneAvail]

Ok ok, Turkey is tomorrow, We are definitely going to beat Germany!

and if we don't then I won't be posting on on this thread anymore! :(