Windows 7 6519 Leaked

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Grand Master

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Not the leak itself, but they handed this build out of MS to a few people months ago. It's how Paul got it and also got the OK from MS to post screenshots of it on his website.

Bzzzt wrong. Try again.

I think it just seems silly to have these included in such an early build. Maybe they should focus on fixing Vista somewhat, then work on all the fixes and core elements for Windows 7. Add the crazy UI in builds that are a little later in the development or use them for internal testing, I don't think changing the Screen Saver is really necessary right now No...

Nobody changed any screensaver code... Dropping in a different image takes 2 minutes and a monkey could do it.

If UI features waited til the end they'd never finish on-time. Or they'd never be able to do anything cool.

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Nor was it implied, but the guy asked whats the point of the leak?

You said to test bugs... I said Microsoft are really gonna appreciate that feedback arent they?

I can actually give you two datapoints where builds that were unavailable leaked and Microsoft actually did incorporate feedback over the bugs in the leaked code.

Nashville II: This leak of an early alpha of what became Windows 98 actually leaked off Microsoft's own FTP server. A lot of the feedback from those that posted feedback on this build (I actually wrote a multi-page review and posted it on Microsoft's *public* NNTP server) has been incorporated into not just Windows 98, but other later versions of Windows.

Codename "Longhorn" 4074: This Vista build leak actually resulted in some of the features being merged into what has become Windows XP's Service Pack 3 (again, because of feedback from folks that got the leaked code).

While Microsoft may or may not intentionally leak builds, like most larger software companies, they use *all* feedback, regardless of source. (Other examples: Symantec, IBM, even Oracle.)

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Eh its just Vista with small enhancements right now, whats the point.

You are probably the same age as the guy who said "Eh its just 2000 with small enhancements right now, whats the point" mentioning about XP's pre-alpha. When you get older, you'll understand. This is setting the stage for the next OS :-) Can't you feel that geeky feeling bubbling up inside you? If not, you will NEVER understand :p

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So many people look at the screenshots and go "oh it's Vista all over again." etc. I wish these people didn't even post because they have really NO idea what they are talking about. Vista is used as a base for Windows 7, how else would you expect it to look in early alphas/betas/milestones?

Also, because you don't SEE any difference in the latest leak doesn't mean Microsoft teams aren't working on new things / fixing things... Just wait for it to progress a little... Sometimes it's not only the things you see but the underlying code aswell that's being worked on :)

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Is this the most recent build out?

Why is it when they release new "Alpha/Beta" releases of upcoming Windows OS's, they Always change the ScreenSaver...

The screensaver, etc do need to reflect the OS though.

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I remember being all excited about vista and submitting loads of comments which were ignored, its kind of funny now that the things that drive people mad about Vista are the same things everyone tried to tell MS in testing. Maybe its time to forget the hand picked focus groups and listen. Im not bothering this time to test any builds.

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Seems ppl have bad experience with old Vista bulds, maybe MS could give you guys an incentive to test them? =P

Anyways, I wonder around what time in the development process do they start changing the UI.

Every product is different, and often every release is different. Besides, just because you don't see something doesn't mean it isn't being worked on...

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Every product is different, and often every release is different. Besides, just because you don't see something doesn't mean it isn't being worked on...

Did he say that? no, he said he wonders when it will change... Duke Nukem Forever has been "being worked on" for YEARS.... doesn't mean jack till it hits the public. the poster obviously meant when changes will be implemented.

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Did he say that? no, he said he wonders when it will change... Duke Nukem Forever has been "being worked on" for YEARS.... doesn't mean jack till it hits the public.

No, he very clearly was asking about the development process. That's why he used the words development process.

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Alpha's (and even not Beta's or RC's) never reveal 2 much of the new stuff.

I remember the day after Vista went RTM, I went to Brussels and was the first person here on Neowin to test Vista RTM (and leak out all the resources :p) Like everything I had seen before from the last RC released to public had changed, only in the positive way..

Let's see if I can still find that thread somewhere

*got the thread. after reading through it it is not suitable for re-reading :p

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