How do you rate Turkey so far in Euro 2008

[Ninety]

Admit it, the only things the Turkish team has are determination, fight and will. Tactically they suck, technically they suck, skill wise they are lacking. All you have is will power, get over yourself.

Ps. They are all the essentially the same since they're all POSITIVE choices.

[L3thal Veteran]

Not true, Russia don't win with skill. They win because of Guus Hiddink. He's a tactical mastermind. If your looking at skill, then the Dutch should've won hands down. Its because of the tactics and hard work that Russia won.

Yes, Russia won because Guss Hiddink remotely controlled all the Russian players via satellite.

Yes, he is a tactical mastermind, but if the players are not good at executing the tactics, then those tactics are useless. The Russian players played very well and they outplayed the Dutch in every possible way.

Admit it, the only things the Turkish team has are determination, fight and will. Tactically they suck, technically they suck, skill wise they are lacking. All you have is will power, get over yourself.

Ps. They are all the essentially the same since they're all POSITIVE choices.

Not to mention the arrogance of their head coach. I am starting to think Alfista is the Turkish head coach...

[Scirwode]

Not to mention the arrogance of their head coach. I am starting to think Alfista is the Turkish head coach...

You know, that couldn't well be a possibility :blink: .

Scirwode

[Kev1n]

turkey have lead a match for only 9 minutes for the entire tournament. That plus the fact that they have progressed so far mean two things - they have a lot of spirit, and even more luck.

[Dev Null Zen]

Forget about Turkey, Russia is the team of the tournament. Russia wins all their games not with luck, but with skill.

QFT. Made respect for the Russians. nice to see them have success since the USSR broke up.

Not true, Russia don't win with skill. They win because of Guus Hiddink. He's a tactical mastermind. If your looking at skill, then the Dutch should've won hands down. Its because of the tactics and hard work that Russia won.

Turkey = Luck + Persistence.

Indeed Guus is great. But if your working with chumps, tactics can only get you so far. And skillwise, the Ducth played like **** today. Sad but true. Sneijder is one of my favorite players to watch, and he was a nonfactor all game today.

[rajputwarrior]

What the hell...?? This makes no sense at all!! :wacko:

You have to belong to a Football Association to put negative things in a poll!!?? And you don't if it's positive things...? WTF...!!??

Unbelievable. I would expect a person with your age to be down to earth, but your arrogance grows by the day.

By the way, care to make that into a poll here? I can almost see it:

"Am I always right or wrong?" is the question. The options are: "right" and "correct", "spot-on" and "accurate" :p

someone is bitter about Portugal...

[Alfista]

well in football you dont only attack.

you defend, you run, you tackle...

Turkey does not play a great football but this game is not about technique and tactic only. there is an incredible determination and a good fight in the pitch.

i never ever saw a team in

World cup. Euro cup. Champions League, Uefa Cup, Libertadores Cup whom had 3 comebacks like Turkey had.

whom scored 3 goals in the last 15 mins to the so called world's best defender?

whom scored a last second goal and won the game against a tournament's host?

whom scored a goal at 122 nd minute while they conceeded 119th minute and the kick off had started a bit over 120th minute?

Turkey succeeded something that no other team succeded before...

If all of you could admit it and stop saying for the last 3 matches that turkey's luck would run over.

[Keito]

Your attitude is the problem (for me), because of your arrogance and mostly your ignorance I just can't stand them anymore. I think Turkey has some great players, I like to see Nihat en Semih among other play for sure, but because you act the way you do Turkey annoys me.

Also, I attribute the Turkish victories in the last minute more to the mentally weaker and not so sharp enemies than pure skills by Turkey and no luck.

[Setnom]

someone is bitter about Portugal...

Believe me, that's not the case. I'm really ****ed off with Alfista and his arrogant posts. To put a poll with only positive options reveals a complete blind ignorance, not to mention some of his more incredible arguments like the one I quoted.

Hence my suggestion of his new poll, again with all positive options and no negative ones. Get it?

[Alfista]

Your attitude is the problem (for me), because of your arrogance and mostly your ignorance I just can't stand them anymore. I think Turkey has some great players, I like to see Nihat en Semih among other play for sure, but because you act the way you do Turkey annoys me.

Also, I attribute the Turkish victories in the last minute more to the mentally weaker and not so sharp enemies than pure skills by Turkey and no luck.

hahaha

i am a currency trader and a stock broker. my life is arrogant. success comes with arrogance because it is a psyhcological war we are having right now. everytime i tell you guys turkey will win you are always in the opposite site because of me and you get tortured each time turkey wins.

i can see all of your heads turning red and steam coming from it.

[Setnom]

hahaha

i am a currency trader and a stock broker. my life is arrogant. success comes with arrogance because it is a psyhcological war we are having right now. everytime i tell you guys turkey will win you are always in the opposite site because of me and you get tortured each time turkey wins.

i can see all of your heads turning red and steam coming from it.

Do you even have any friends!? :p

[Scirwode]

Do you even have any friends!? :p

Good point :p .

Scirwode

[Keito]

hahaha

i am a currency trader and a stock broker. my life is arrogant. success comes with arrogance because it is a psyhcological war we are having right now. everytime i tell you guys turkey will win you are always in the opposite site because of me and you get tortured each time turkey wins.

i can see all of your heads turning red and steam coming from it.

I'm not at a psychological war with you, basically, because I couldn't care less. Nor am I getting tortured when Turkey wins or is my head turning red when they do, I just think the other team is stronger, and if at the end it isn't, so be it. I'm not being angry about it or ****ed or anything. If you think otherwise, please read my posts, I've always said relatively positive things about the team, the only thing we disagree about is whether Arda Turan is the best player at the tournament and whether the victory was lucky or not, which are perfectly fine and defendable opinions. You just have to give that twist...

I guess we'll see how far they'll eventually come. Right now, I, again, don't think Turkey will win against their next opponent, but hey, would it make sense to tell you that? No. You're just going to say I'm jealous or angry again... and so be it.

[Alfista]

Do you even have any friends!? :p

no... i am stuck in front of the computer for the rest of my life.

and my girlfriends are all ciber..

ohhh shoot wait. thats not me.

THATS YOUUU!!!!

[-T- Member]

Suddenly the reason we banned all turkish isp's from our irc server has just come rushing back to me.

Turkey so far have ridden their luck. The game against Germany will be no contest. I wonder how long after the defeat he'll return. Even as a neutral, I want Turkey to lose just to shut him up.

[Pajter]

Is it me, or are the mods here on holiday?

[Alfista]

Suddenly the reason we banned all turkish isp's from our irc server has just come rushing back to me.

woooo.. that destroyed my life.. i will be a whole different person from now on.

[Setnom]

no... i am stuck in front of the computer for the rest of my life.

and my girlfriends are all ciber..

ohhh shoot wait. thats not me.

THATS YOUUU!!!!

Man, no way you're 25. If you are, then you are certainly lacking a proper education... Because no responsible adult behaves the way you do or answers a simple question just like a spoiled kid by simply saying: "No, you are!" (and in caps, no less)

And if you're lying about your age, you are most certainly lying about your profession. No stock broker can be that unprofessional, unintelligent and over-alienating. Any stock broker knows you have to have the right personal qualities and skills: you need to have great comunication skills (which you really don't), you have to know how to work in a team (your arrogant personality takes care of that), you have to be well-organised and well-informed (not only you aren't, but you also make up stories and lie to ensure you win the discussion). But I'll give you that: you really are commited to sucess. Perhaps too much...

[Alfista]

Man, no way you're 25. If you are, then you are certainly lacking a proper education... Because no responsible adult behaves the way you do or answers a simple question just like a spoiled kid by simply saying: "No, you are!" (and in caps, no less)

And if you're lying about your age, you are most certainly lying about your profession. No stock broker can be that unprofessional, unintelligent and over-alienating. Any stock broker knows you have to have the right personal qualities and skills: you need to have great comunication skills (which you really don't), you have to know how to work in a team (your arrogant personality takes care of that), you have to be well-organised and well-informed (not only you aren't, but you also make up stories and lie to ensure you win the discussion). But I'll give you that: you really are commited to sucess. Perhaps too much...

when you talk to a child.. you have to get in his/her level for him/her to understand your argument. thats what i did

when someone asks a question such as "do you even have friends" to a stock broker and currency trader over 25+ ages and have been saying that i spent turkey vs croatia game at friends house with my gf... than this is not such as adult question..

so i lowered my level a bit to enter you level of thinking...

i cant see anything wrong with this.. matter of fact. this is very nice of me doing it this way.

[Setnom]

^^ hahahaha, you did it again... :p "No, you are the child!" :p

[Sethos]

You are a very peculiar guy, Alfista.

[Alfista]

You are a very peculiar guy, Alfista.

yepp

every since i was 5 years old. which was 20 years ago... :=)

but admit it. these forums would not be as fun without me ;)

anyway i am off to the beach again... ciao everyone for now.

^^ hahahaha, you did it again... :p "No, you are the child!" :p

this is all you can come up with?

[L3thal Veteran]

I think it is safe to say that Portugal is better than Turkey...

[Alfista]

nope

turkey is in the semis

and portugal is not.

[brentaal]

turkey is in the semis

and portugal is not.

And that makes Turkey better... just how? Please elaborate your reasoning behind it.