Yahtzee Reviews MGS4

[Green_Eye]

Source: http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/vie...al-Gear-Solid-4

I think it was a fair review although my judgement is reserved until I play it and inevitably get my arse handed to me :p

Discuss...

[+Audioboxer Subscriber²]

LOL :laugh:

Good ole Yahtze.

Plus Yahtze, you do run out of ammo on the tranq gun. Try playing on hard instead of easy. Drebin doesn't sell tranq bullets.

At least he acknowledged playing through the first games before. Nothing grates on my nerves more than the casual MGS4 reviews where people jump the game and beat it senseless for not being accessible to someone who knows nothing on MGS.

[Sethos]

Funny and most of it is quite true (Y)

[KoL Veteran]

Ive always hated those reviews. I don't understand what he is saying. :wacko:

[DrunknMunky Veteran]

Spot on review, and exactly why it's not "the best game evarrr!!1!" (Y)

[+Audioboxer Subscriber²]

Spot on review, and exactly why it's not the best game evarrr!!1! (Y)

Dude just let people think it is if they want to. What does it bother you?

You called KoL out as well in another topic for saying he thought it was.

I'm sure you have a "best game ever" as well :p

For the record, FF7 is still mine, but I'd say MGS4 is in my top5.

[Argi]

I laughed, like every week. :p Although his opinion has kind of put me off buying a PS3 while I'm in Japan. Among other things I haven't played the previous games and I've kind of been worried about not understanding all the little details. I've considered just reading a synopsis online but that'd take a fair while too. Overall though I think what he said hits the nail on the head for someone playing their first MGS game with no previous experience.

[DrunknMunky Veteran]

Dude just let people think it is if they want to. What does it bother you?

You called KoL out as well in another topic for saying he thought it was.

I'm sure you have a "best game ever" as well :p

For the record, FF7 is still mine, but I'd say MGS4 is in my top5.

I actually don't label any game the best. Seems pretty pointless to me. I have lots of favourites, but that doesn't make them the best :p

Some people should learn the difference :yes:

btw, Halo pwns *

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[Dc'1]

I'm still yet to play/buy MGS4, mostly because I have only played MGS1 as far as I can remember lol

[CY:G]

Funny as always, i can understand his rants, it just means he isn't really into the kind of game MGS is.

That doesn't mean no one will like it, there are tons of people who like a good convoluted story tied to a challenging game with immense attention to detail...

[Ironman273]

Dude just let people think it is if they want to. What does it bother you?

You called KoL out as well in another topic for saying he thought it was.

I'm sure you have a "best game ever" as well :p

For the record, FF7 is still mine, but I'd say MGS4 is in my top5.

Although maybe it's time for a new profile pic, though...

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[+Audioboxer Subscriber²]

*shrugs shoulders*

:rolleyes:

[popisdead uk]

The 'review' is exactly what I would expect from somebody that doesn't like the MGS series. No big deal really.

[gigapixels Veteran]

The 'review' is exactly what I would expect from somebody that doesn't like the MGS series. No big deal really.

Exactly. I completely disagree with that entire thing. And normally when he dislikes a game there are a few points I agree with him on, but in this case I think he's completely wrong.

But hey, to each his own.

[Green_Eye]

Lets be honest here he didn't say the game was bad, far from it but if you watch Yahtzee and expect him to sing praises for 5 mins then you are in for a shock(not just you but everyone in general)

He likes to point out the bad... A lot :p

[Spookie]

I completely agree with him. I went in with an open mind on the game. Unfortunately after the initial 22mins I found out I had just thrown 40 quid down a well.

[DrunknMunky Veteran]

I'm a pretty big fanboy of the series and I even think he nailed it :laugh:

No need to get defensive people ;)

[+Audioboxer Subscriber²]

I completely agree with him. I went in with an open mind on the game. Unfortunately after the initial 22mins I found out I had just thrown 40 quid down a well.

22 minutes and you judge an entire game?

Sorry DM, this isn't being defensive, it's asking why the heck people are buying a game they KNOW is cutscene/story heavy then complaining after such short amounts of time.

This isn't Tetris for the DS, nor do I understand why some people expect it to be. If you can't give this game some of your time, why on earth did you buy it?

I wouldn't say going in with an open mind is 22 minutes of play, but each to his own.

I don't care that you dislike MGS4, it's just shocking me how gamers are giving up that quickly - Unless of course they don't really like heavy story based games, but then im completely puzzled at why they bought the finale to a series notorious for heavy story/cutscenes.

Edited June 25, 2008 by Audioboxer

[CY:G]

22 minutes and you judge an entire game?

Sorry DM, this isn't being defensive, it's asking why the heck people are buying a game they KNOW is cutscene/story heavy then complaining after such short amounts of time.

This isn't Tetris for the DS, nor do I understand why some people expect it to be. If you can't give this game some of your time, why on earth did you buy it?

lol, hit the nail...

If Spookie cant stand the cutscenes he can always skip them and get to the game, because it is there, and its fun.

[+Audioboxer Subscriber²]

lol, hit the nail...

If Spookie cant stand the cutscenes he can always skip them and get to the game, because it is there, and its fun.

Nah that's even more pointless.

You don't buy a story based game, then skip every element of story :blink:

If you can't handle the heaviness of either story or cutscenes, you just don't buy MGS4. It's a niche game in that sense. If you oppose long cutscenes, or a heavy storyline, MGS4 is no way in hell going to win you over.

No MGS game ever will...

[gigapixels Veteran]

I'm a pretty big fanboy of the series and I even think he nailed it :laugh:

No need to get defensive people ;)

We can disagree without being defensive ;)

I completely agree Audio. It doesn't make sense for people to buy a game of the Metal Gear franchise, known to be heavy in cutscenes and storytelling, and then complain about those two things.

[Doli]

Are some of the cut scenes in the game really that long?

[+Audioboxer Subscriber²]

We can disagree without being defensive ;)

I completely agree Audio. It doesn't make sense for people to buy a game of the Metal Gear franchise, known to be heavy in cutscenes and storytelling, and then complain about those two things.

Yeah, I mean I understand fans/those interested in MGS4 buying it and commenting on how the cutscenes are longer than previous games and/or the lengths may have ticked them off a bit.

Even some of the fans find some MGS/MGS4 things a bit heavy :p The pause feature introduced was really helpful and a good step in the right direction. Larrys final "play" time is probably going to be like 100 hours :p

However when people saying they "chucked their money away" or "after 22mins I gave up" in relation to cutscenes/story, that confuses/frustrates me due to what you pointed out above. Any gamer in the know, is going to know MGS titles are heavy on cutscenes and story, and that isn't going to change.

[CY:G]

Nah that's even more pointless.

You don't buy a story based game, then skip every element of story :blink:

If you can't handle the heaviness of either story or cutscenes, you just don't buy MGS4. It's a niche game in that sense. If you oppose long cutscenes, or a heavy storyline, MGS4 is no way in hell going to win you over.

No MGS game ever will...

But now that he HAS bought it, he can skip to play the game so that he doesnt feel that he just wasted his 40 quid, Metal Gear Online alone is worth that in my opinion...

[+Audioboxer Subscriber²]

But now that he HAS bought it, he can skip to play the game so that he doesnt feel that he just wasted his 40 quid, Metal Gear Online alone is worth that in my opinion...

Hmmm it really is a waste though...

You just don't play a MGS game to walk away for the gameplay side of things.

It's like playing a FF game and skipping every cutscene. Ok you might find the gameplay fun, but it really is a waste of the game.

If you're skipping things/giving up after 22minutes, you shouldn't really own the game.