Apes Deserve Human Rights, Spanish Leaders Say

[Hum]

Spanish apes are one step closer to receiving the same rights to life and freedom humans have.

The environmental committee of Spain's parliament approved resolutions that urge the European country to comply with the Great Apes Project ? a plan developed by philosophers and scientists who say the animals deserve the same rights as their closest genetic relatives, the Reuters news agency reported.

"This is a historic day in the struggle for animal rights and in defense of our evolutionary comrades, which will doubtless go down in the history of humanity," Pedro Pozas, Spanish director of the Great Apes Project, told Reuters. "We have no knowledge of great apes being used in experiments in Spain, but there is currently no law preventing that from happening."

The new measures are the latest in what appears to be Spain's move from a conservative state to liberal trailblazer.

Under the new rules, keeping apes for television commercials, filming or circuses would be illegal, Reuters reported.

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[Suren]

good!

[+Raphaël G. MVC]

What a load of bullcrap. Why apes and not a other animals?

[-T- Member]

And so it begins...

You Maniacs! You blew it up! Ah, damn you! God damn you all to hell! :laugh:

heh no really, it's pretty cool that they've done this :)

[Scirwode]

And what are they basing their evidence on, George of the Jungle?

Scirwode

[Coldgunner]

Why do people think humans are somewhat more valuable than other lifeforms. This is surely a step in the right direction.

[digitalsoft]

aslong as england doesnt start accepting them as immigrants and lets them take our jobs its all good lol. How is keeping an ape in a Zoo fair then??

[Suren]

Why do people think humans are somewhat more valuable than other lifeforms. This is surely a step in the right direction.

Agree 100% :yes:

[Sethos]

aslong as england doesnt start accepting them as immigrants and lets them take our jobs its all good

That has been going on in Denmark for the past 5-10 years :sleep:

[maplecookie Veteran]

Why apes and not a other animals?

Am wondering that also. So they just are picking and choosing which animals get to have these rights? Why not all of them?

It's very odd.

[exotoxic]

hopefully all animals can have the same rights as humans

[+Raphaël G. MVC]

hopefully all animals can have the same rights as humans

I agree that animals should not be mistreated (except big ugly spiders), but think about the following: if all animals get the same rights as human beings, we will all have to become vegeterians... Yummie... veggie burgers... :(

[brentaal]

I thought we already had rights. :D

[+Raphaël G. MVC]

I thought we already had rights. :D

LOOL, nice one :)

[ApuBo]

hopefully all animals can have the same rights as humans

Kill an rat then go to jail ..

[zeta_immersion]

I agree with this but then Bush .. should he have the same rights as a monkey? ... NOT!!!! ...

on all seriousness ... all animals MUST be protected by law... just because homosapiens is such as ****ed up animal it does not have the right to take the life of another (even if it gets attacked). Ie. lion vs gazelle is fine -> food , humans vs cows -> food, but humans vs monkey -> Not cool ... also there is no reason in exterminatig certain animals just because we think they are not needed

[+Raphaël G. MVC]

Kill an rat then go to jail ..

Voila, another good example :)

[Scirwode]

Kill an rat then go to jail ..

Yes, and be charged with first degree murder.

Scirwode

[Leddy]

Why do people think humans are somewhat more valuable than other lifeforms. This is surely a step in the right direction.

The danger is that we don't know when to stop, and eventually anything and everything has rights. It's a slippery slope, so to speak.

There's nothing wrong with a healthy dose of self-interest. It's a self-protection mechanism of most, if not all living beings, and you would do well to keep it.

[+Raphaël G. MVC]

I agree with this but then Bush .. should he have the same rights as a monkey? ... NOT!!!! ...

on all seriousness ... all animals MUST be protected by law... just because homosapiens is such as ****ed up animal it does not have the right to take the life of another (even if it gets attacked). Ie. lion vs gazelle is fine -> food , humans vs cows -> food, but humans vs monkey -> Not cool ... also there is no reason in exterminatig certain animals just because we think they are not needed

What if someone wants to eat monkey? :) Yeah I know I'm pushing it...

[|Rapture|]

Donnie Darko, while totally missing the point of the book he was discussing says it better than I ever could. Merciless copy/paste of IMDB ftw.

[from the Extended and Deleted Scenes. The class is discussing Watership Down]

Karen Pommeroy: This could be the death of an entire way of life, the end of an era...

Donnie: Why should we care?

Karen Pommeroy: Because the rabbits are us, Donnie.

Donnie: Why should I mourn for a rabbit like he was human?

Karen Pommeroy: Are you saying that the death of one species is less tragic than another?

Donnie: Of course. The rabbit's not like us. It has no... keen look at something in the mirror, it has no history books, no photographs, no knowledge of sorrow or regret... I mean, I'm sorry, Miss Pommeroy, don't get me wrong; y'know, I like rabbits and all. They're cute and they're horny. And if you're cute and you're horny, then you're probably happy, in that you don't know who you are and why you're even alive. And you just wanna' have sex, as many times as possible, before you die... I mean, I just don't see the point in crying over a dead rabbit! Y'know, who... who never even feared death to begin with.

[alsheron]

What a load of bullcrap. Why apes and not a other animals?

Because there is a vast majority of very vocal nitwits, especially amongst the scientific community who genuinely believe that apes are our "ancestors".

Until this madness/nonsense is exposed for what it is (could be a very long time given the maniacal, arrogant and often conceited nature of this majority group), I completely understand how this has happened, because if you believe in Darwinian principles and their modern offshoots, you will likely also find some sense in this.

A good example of sheer human guesswork gone mad and a good example (as if there arent enough already) of why our Creator left us with guidance instead of leaving us to work it all out for ourselves with dire consequences that doing so results in.

Have we then no sense?

[|Rapture|]

^ face palm...

[megamanXplosion]

Clue #1 that you're a nitwit: when you say the majority of biologists are nitwits.

[exotoxic]

Kill an rat then go to jail ..

why would i want to kill a rat?? i dont see any problems with them.

and killing for food is ok because thats a natural thing to do... killing for your own satisfaction is not.