strotee Posted June 26, 2008 Share Posted June 26, 2008 "Under the new rules, keeping apes for television commercials, filming or circuses would be illegal, Reuters reported." There goes Clyde's career. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/645596-apes-deserve-human-rights-spanish-leaders-say/page/2/#findComment-589512135 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Gary7 Subscriber² Posted June 26, 2008 Subscriber² Share Posted June 26, 2008 Since this only applies to Spain, Clyde will be OK. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/645596-apes-deserve-human-rights-spanish-leaders-say/page/2/#findComment-589512146 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fr33k Posted June 26, 2008 Share Posted June 26, 2008 does this mean that they can own guns? :D Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/645596-apes-deserve-human-rights-spanish-leaders-say/page/2/#findComment-589512158 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coldgunner Posted June 26, 2008 Share Posted June 26, 2008 does this mean that they can own guns? :D bizarrely, they'd probably be more responsible than the average moron. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/645596-apes-deserve-human-rights-spanish-leaders-say/page/2/#findComment-589512179 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironsight2000 Posted June 26, 2008 Share Posted June 26, 2008 just watch it will move on to all animals make it illegal to eat meat Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/645596-apes-deserve-human-rights-spanish-leaders-say/page/2/#findComment-589512193 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbonello Posted June 26, 2008 Share Posted June 26, 2008 just watch it will move on to all animals make it illegal to eat meat about time :) vegetarianism is the way to go. more healthy and cruelty free Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/645596-apes-deserve-human-rights-spanish-leaders-say/page/2/#findComment-589512219 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GNRambo Posted June 26, 2008 Share Posted June 26, 2008 bizarrely, they'd probably be more responsible than the average moron. :rofl: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/645596-apes-deserve-human-rights-spanish-leaders-say/page/2/#findComment-589512222 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coldgunner Posted June 26, 2008 Share Posted June 26, 2008 about time :) vegetarianism is the way to go. more healthy and cruelty free I don't want to get into a debate, but eating meat quite healthy too. PLANT AND VEGETABLE RIGHTS! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/645596-apes-deserve-human-rights-spanish-leaders-say/page/2/#findComment-589512223 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironsight2000 Posted June 26, 2008 Share Posted June 26, 2008 plants have feelings too Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/645596-apes-deserve-human-rights-spanish-leaders-say/page/2/#findComment-589512234 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deletedforeverhaha Posted June 26, 2008 Share Posted June 26, 2008 Apes aren't humans therefore they should not have human rights. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/645596-apes-deserve-human-rights-spanish-leaders-say/page/2/#findComment-589512241 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Posted June 26, 2008 Share Posted June 26, 2008 Apes aren't humans therefore they should not have human rights. finally one smart answer here. What, do we have to provide wellfare for these poor apes now? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/645596-apes-deserve-human-rights-spanish-leaders-say/page/2/#findComment-589512311 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+M2Ys4U Subscriber¹ Posted June 26, 2008 Subscriber¹ Share Posted June 26, 2008 Because there is a vast majority of very vocal nitwits, especially amongst the scientific community who genuinely believe that apes are our "ancestors".Until this madness/nonsense is exposed for what it is (could be a very long time given the maniacal, arrogant and often conceited nature of this majority group), I completely understand how this has happened, because if you believe in Darwinian principles and their modern offshoots, you will likely also find some sense in this. A good example of sheer human guesswork gone mad and a good example (as if there arent enough already) of why our Creator left us with guidance instead of leaving us to work it all out for ourselves with dire consequences that doing so results in. Have we then no sense? Humans are apes, we belong to the same superfamily (Hominidae; commonly known as the "Great Apes") as orangutans, gorillas & chimpanzees. Chimps are our closest cousins, studies show that the difference in DNA is only 10 times that between two unrelated humans and less than 10 times the difference between rats and mice. Apes aren't humans therefore they should not have human rights. All Humans are Apes, but not all Apes are Human. That said, you are correct in that non-human apes shouldn't be given human rights. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/645596-apes-deserve-human-rights-spanish-leaders-say/page/2/#findComment-589512400 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ApuBo Posted June 26, 2008 Share Posted June 26, 2008 why would i want to kill a rat?? i dont see any problems with them.and killing for food is ok because thats a natural thing to do... killing for your own satisfaction is not. dont has to be a rat you killin.. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/645596-apes-deserve-human-rights-spanish-leaders-say/page/2/#findComment-589512421 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hum Posted June 26, 2008 Author Share Posted June 26, 2008 Under the new rules, keeping apes for television commercials, filming or circuses would be illegal Are not humans allowed on TV ? :unsure: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/645596-apes-deserve-human-rights-spanish-leaders-say/page/2/#findComment-589512445 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiagosilva29 Posted June 26, 2008 Share Posted June 26, 2008 You are right, I have always known about man. From the evidence, I believe his wisdom must walk hand and hand with his idiocy. His emotions must rule his brain. He must be a warlike creature who gives battle to everything around him, even himself. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/645596-apes-deserve-human-rights-spanish-leaders-say/page/2/#findComment-589512456 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scirwode Posted June 26, 2008 Share Posted June 26, 2008 Are not humans allowed on TV ? :unsure: Get ready for Planet of The Apes reruns :shifty: . Scirwode Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/645596-apes-deserve-human-rights-spanish-leaders-say/page/2/#findComment-589512461 Share on other sites More sharing options...
maplecookie Veteran Posted June 26, 2008 Veteran Share Posted June 26, 2008 Are not humans allowed on TV ? :unsure: lol All Humans are Apes, but not all Apes are Human. That said, you are correct in that non-human apes shouldn't be given human rights. :yes: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/645596-apes-deserve-human-rights-spanish-leaders-say/page/2/#findComment-589512467 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ApuBo Posted June 26, 2008 Share Posted June 26, 2008 Are not humans allowed on TV ? :unsure: i bet they can (apes) , and being paid this time :D yea money Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/645596-apes-deserve-human-rights-spanish-leaders-say/page/2/#findComment-589512470 Share on other sites More sharing options...
_bobcat_ Veteran Posted June 26, 2008 Veteran Share Posted June 26, 2008 With rights come responsibilities. If apes are going to get the same rights as humans, will the same be expected of them in other ways? Jail time for law breaking, send their children to school :p I imagine that these new laws are not going to go *that far*, the media always likes to exaggerate. I don't see why it's so awful to use animals in commercials if they are being looked after properly, better than using them to test out new drugs. I'd sooner see that banned, I hope it is in Spain after this all this. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/645596-apes-deserve-human-rights-spanish-leaders-say/page/2/#findComment-589512793 Share on other sites More sharing options...
skiiper Posted June 26, 2008 Share Posted June 26, 2008 I dont see why the debate in this. Lets just make it simple: Human rights are granted to every member of species Homo Sapien. Everything else has no human rights. End of discussion. If every animal had human rights, we can all kiss burgers, steaks, wool clothes, chicken wings, bacon, seafood, leather seats, turkey dinners,leather wallets and purses, pets, petting zoos and beastiality good bye. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/645596-apes-deserve-human-rights-spanish-leaders-say/page/2/#findComment-589512870 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebdomine Posted June 26, 2008 Share Posted June 26, 2008 Humanity is Overrated.. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/645596-apes-deserve-human-rights-spanish-leaders-say/page/2/#findComment-589512877 Share on other sites More sharing options...
teriba Posted June 26, 2008 Share Posted June 26, 2008 (edited) Does anybody feel it's ironic that SPAIN is doing this? They slaughter bulls slowly in public and rip the heads off of chickens for fun..... Edited June 26, 2008 by teriba Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/645596-apes-deserve-human-rights-spanish-leaders-say/page/2/#findComment-589512886 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebdomine Posted June 26, 2008 Share Posted June 26, 2008 The spanish leaders probably just meant their own people when they said apes.. same thing.. (Was that racism?) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/645596-apes-deserve-human-rights-spanish-leaders-say/page/2/#findComment-589512895 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minimoose Posted June 26, 2008 Share Posted June 26, 2008 The spanish leaders probably just meant their own people when they said apes.. same thing..(Was that racism?) Probably, but i would have found it funny no matter what country it was, so meh IMO :p I also agree with teriba, its quite ridiculous that they do this for apes but think its ok to treat other animals like that. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/645596-apes-deserve-human-rights-spanish-leaders-say/page/2/#findComment-589512905 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fhertlein Posted June 26, 2008 Share Posted June 26, 2008 With rights come responsibilities. If apes are going to get the same rights as humans, will the same be expected of them in other ways? Jail time for law breaking, send their children to school :pI imagine that these new laws are not going to go *that far*, the media always likes to exaggerate. I don't see why it's so awful to use animals in commercials if they are being looked after properly, better than using them to test out new drugs. I'd sooner see that banned, I hope it is in Spain after this all this. I can see the court room after an ape commits a crime, like throwing crap at someone, and they try to question the defendent. What a bunch of dingle berries. Go ahead a protect animals from the idiots that drag them behind cars, but fire crackers up their butts, etc. but to say animals deserve the same rights as humans is quite irrational. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/645596-apes-deserve-human-rights-spanish-leaders-say/page/2/#findComment-589512914 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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