mattrobs Posted June 27, 2008 Share Posted June 27, 2008 I'm popping down to the Sydney Apple Store's Genius Bar with a software problem. But I've customised my Mac ? the Dock, the default wallpaper, the menu highlights, and the system icons. You know, the usual. So if present them my MBP how it is, is the Genius going to look at me with that "you smartass" look and give me flack for it? The whole "you're not supposed to touch the System folder; you've brought this on yourself" lecture? Or should I just un-CandyBar everything before I go? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/645776-how-irked-are-geniuses-with-a-customised-mac/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Nik Louch Subscriber² Posted June 27, 2008 Subscriber² Share Posted June 27, 2008 They are trained to look at Mac's that are setup 99% default. I do agree that by messing with the system folder, you take responsibility for anything unforseen. However, I do not agree with their attitude towards a customer. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/645776-how-irked-are-geniuses-with-a-customised-mac/#findComment-589514075 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+jamesyfx Subscriber² Posted June 27, 2008 Subscriber² Share Posted June 27, 2008 In retail stores, you are trained to understand that 80% of computer problems are down to the user - and if they hear you've been messing with the system folder, this will come to mind automatically. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/645776-how-irked-are-geniuses-with-a-customised-mac/#findComment-589514080 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 27, 2008 Share Posted June 27, 2008 Depends who you deal with i would say. If they cant solve your problem they have a good excuse... If they do fix the problem i doubt they would hassle you much about it.. As i said... depends who your dealing with Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/645776-how-irked-are-geniuses-with-a-customised-mac/#findComment-589514083 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattrobs Posted June 27, 2008 Author Share Posted June 27, 2008 But it wasn't me! It was CandyBar I tells ya! CandyBar! Good points, though; I agree. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/645776-how-irked-are-geniuses-with-a-customised-mac/#findComment-589514086 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cara Veteran Posted June 28, 2008 Veteran Share Posted June 28, 2008 I'm popping down to the Sydney Apple Store's Genius Bar with a software problem. But I've customised my Mac ? the Dock, the default wallpaper, the menu highlights, and the system icons. You know, the usual. So if present them my MBP how it is, is the Genius going to look at me with that "you smartass" look and give me flack for it? The whole "you're not supposed to touch the System folder; you've brought this on yourself" lecture? Or should I just un-CandyBar everything before I go? Just so you know, there is no policy against it as long as you haven't modified anything system related, and if you do have system files changed the worst they will do is require a reinstall of the OS:):) I've never had any problems with that in the past, normally they want to know where I got the icons I was using;);) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/645776-how-irked-are-geniuses-with-a-customised-mac/#findComment-589515811 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quillz Posted June 29, 2008 Share Posted June 29, 2008 If they did give me beef about it, I'd just let the manager know. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/645776-how-irked-are-geniuses-with-a-customised-mac/#findComment-589519484 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackice Posted July 24, 2008 Share Posted July 24, 2008 In my experience, they don't care. I've changed most of the icons, and when I took my MacBook to the store, they didn't even mention it. It was for a display problem (very bad colours. Couldn't see the blue strips in lists), which could be software (colour profile) or hardware (bad display). Never went there for a purely software problem. I'd just use Time Machine. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/645776-how-irked-are-geniuses-with-a-customised-mac/#findComment-589578890 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred Derf Veteran Posted July 24, 2008 Veteran Share Posted July 24, 2008 I would strip all customizations before you take it in. Chances are that will be the first thing they blame. If it is a really obvious hardware problem then it may not matter. If it looks like a software issue then it may. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/645776-how-irked-are-geniuses-with-a-customised-mac/#findComment-589578899 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cormier6083 Posted July 24, 2008 Share Posted July 24, 2008 Apple Geniuses aren't robots who are confined to a telephone and a manual. They're normal people like you and me (except smarterer). I don't think they would tell you anything, as long as you don't mess with any files. >:( Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/645776-how-irked-are-geniuses-with-a-customised-mac/#findComment-589578903 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiveMasterT Posted August 24, 2008 Share Posted August 24, 2008 Eh just uncandybar it before bringing it in. Might as well take all of the extra factors out of the equation. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/645776-how-irked-are-geniuses-with-a-customised-mac/#findComment-589693582 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudy Posted August 24, 2008 Share Posted August 24, 2008 It depends, if you're close to the store I would suggest trying it the way it is and if they complain then go home and remove any customization and go back Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/645776-how-irked-are-geniuses-with-a-customised-mac/#findComment-589693680 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Binary Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 When I took my iMac in for repair the tech questioned my customized dock. He said changing the files could cause the graphical artifacts I was seeing. I told him he was full of @#$% and that changing a couple pngs wouldn't harm anything. He then moved on to other causes. ;) It was the GPU. Obviously. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/645776-how-irked-are-geniuses-with-a-customised-mac/#findComment-589697428 Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Neo Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 I told him he was full of @#$% and that changing a couple pngs wouldn't harm anything. Did you literally say that? :p Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/645776-how-irked-are-geniuses-with-a-customised-mac/#findComment-589697518 Share on other sites More sharing options...
offroadaaron Posted August 26, 2008 Share Posted August 26, 2008 But it wasn't me! It was CandyBar I tells ya! CandyBar!Good points, though; I agree. a third party app screwing up your OS is Apples fault? PS I dunno if your joking or not. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/645776-how-irked-are-geniuses-with-a-customised-mac/#findComment-589703628 Share on other sites More sharing options...
(Spork) Posted August 26, 2008 Share Posted August 26, 2008 just tell me to zip it and just fix it you dont want to hear about i shouldn't do this or that Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/645776-how-irked-are-geniuses-with-a-customised-mac/#findComment-589703644 Share on other sites More sharing options...
offroadaaron Posted August 27, 2008 Share Posted August 27, 2008 what i don't get is why your scared, just freaking go in there like a normal person and get it fixed up! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/645776-how-irked-are-geniuses-with-a-customised-mac/#findComment-589704580 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yusuf M. Veteran Posted August 27, 2008 Veteran Share Posted August 27, 2008 Remove the customizations because the person who helps you will probably use that as an excuse. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/645776-how-irked-are-geniuses-with-a-customised-mac/#findComment-589704598 Share on other sites More sharing options...
zhangm Supervisor Posted August 27, 2008 Supervisor Share Posted August 27, 2008 Remove enough customizations so that when you make a new user, it looks like the Apple cookie-cutter user template. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/645776-how-irked-are-geniuses-with-a-customised-mac/#findComment-589704622 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Impact Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 Wouldn't the fastest way to make it look stock be to create a new user account? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/645776-how-irked-are-geniuses-with-a-customised-mac/#findComment-589710508 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Binary Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 Did you literally say that? :p Yes. He was trying to blame an obvious GPU defect on a little bit of customization (Which meant he wouldn't have ok'd the repair). Luckily both the artifacts and sudden black screen showed up while he was using it. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/645776-how-irked-are-geniuses-with-a-customised-mac/#findComment-589711468 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PNWDweller Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 Umm...IMHO, I would think a "TRUE GENIUS" would appreciate the work you did and be able to work around the system issues. Chances are they do the same thing and just don't admit it. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/645776-how-irked-are-geniuses-with-a-customised-mac/#findComment-589711986 Share on other sites More sharing options...
craybox Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 im fairly sure that they would just login as new user and disable any startup apps/scripts its easy enough. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/645776-how-irked-are-geniuses-with-a-customised-mac/#findComment-589712000 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quillz Posted August 29, 2008 Share Posted August 29, 2008 They aren't exactly geniuses if they believe actual system errors are caused by modifying the Dock and application/system icons, which are just .png images for the most part. Nearly everyone is using Candybar or a similar app these days, so unless people are just randomly going into the System folder and deleting icons, a customized Mac shouldn't cause any issues. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/645776-how-irked-are-geniuses-with-a-customised-mac/#findComment-589712494 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbtx__ Posted August 29, 2008 Share Posted August 29, 2008 They aren't exactly geniuses if they believe actual system errors are caused by modifying the Dock and application/system icons, which are just .png images for the most part. Nearly everyone is using Candybar or a similar app these days, so unless people are just randomly going into the System folder and deleting icons, a customized Mac shouldn't cause any issues. Exactly. I don't see what the whole issue is. A .PNG file that has worked fine for a while after modifying it, won't suddenly bring down the whole system. Conversly, if you find the system stops working just after you've made a change, that's usually a good indication that something is wrong! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/645776-how-irked-are-geniuses-with-a-customised-mac/#findComment-589713668 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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