redvamp128 Posted June 29, 2008 Share Posted June 29, 2008 This may sound weird but try the following. Create a new user in Vista-- Sign into that user ... switch all eye candy off- Classic Look for Menu and OS- To where it looks like XP. See if that helps... Just a thought. Worse case is that if it does not work... Just Remove the user and delete the files that it creates. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/645900-vista-freezing-during-downloading/page/2/#findComment-589519648 Share on other sites More sharing options...
redvamp128 Posted June 30, 2008 Share Posted June 30, 2008 The reason I suggested this is to rule out Profile Corruption. I have seen it before on Win2k and on Xp but I guess it is possible on Vista. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/645900-vista-freezing-during-downloading/page/2/#findComment-589522465 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jigoku Posted July 2, 2008 Author Share Posted July 2, 2008 I couldn't find any settings in the bios relating to hd performance. =/ and using a new user account doesn't seem to help with the jittering problem. :wacko: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/645900-vista-freezing-during-downloading/page/2/#findComment-589527669 Share on other sites More sharing options...
redvamp128 Posted July 2, 2008 Share Posted July 2, 2008 The new user was to possibly fix the download issue. I will have to do some more research for the download lockup issue... only other thing for the jittering issue is one of two things.. Check the monitor refresh rate-and hook it up to a regular PC monitor to see if the jittering is a bad LCD. I have heard of that. There should be a function to switch it from Laptop display to monitor. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/645900-vista-freezing-during-downloading/page/2/#findComment-589527705 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jigoku Posted July 3, 2008 Author Share Posted July 3, 2008 The new user was to possibly fix the download issue. I will have to do some more research for the download lockup issue... only other thing for the jittering issue is one of two things.. Check the monitor refresh rate-and hook it up to a regular PC monitor to see if the jittering is a bad LCD. I have heard of that. There should be a function to switch it from Laptop display to monitor. I've tried to change the refresh rate before because when I see an bg/image with grey lines close together it flashes.. ^blinks on my lcd. It only has 60htz. o.o note: my computer also freezes/jitters when loading sites with a lot of images. =/ ty for all the help so far. :) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/645900-vista-freezing-during-downloading/page/2/#findComment-589529268 Share on other sites More sharing options...
redvamp128 Posted July 3, 2008 Share Posted July 3, 2008 Did you try connecting the laptop to a regular PC monitor?... I am thinking bad LCD for the jittering. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/645900-vista-freezing-during-downloading/page/2/#findComment-589530290 Share on other sites More sharing options...
James123 Posted July 3, 2008 Share Posted July 3, 2008 Can you download/run the Benchmarks in HDTune (http://www.hdtune.com/) and post up your results? I had similar problems that you're describing (locking up on downloads) on my sisters laptop and after running that benchmark noticed the HDD was only writing at 2MB/s, swapped the drive out and now it's fine. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/645900-vista-freezing-during-downloading/page/2/#findComment-589530312 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jigoku Posted July 4, 2008 Author Share Posted July 4, 2008 Did you try connecting the laptop to a regular PC monitor?... I am thinking bad LCD for the jittering. I will test that out later today for you. Can you download/run the Benchmarks in HDTune (http://www.hdtune.com/) and post up your results? I had similar problems that you're describing (locking up on downloads) on my sisters laptop and after running that benchmark noticed the HDD was only writing at 2MB/s, swapped the drive out and now it's fine. when I try to run the benchmark I get this alert. my hd was setup like this from the factory. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/645900-vista-freezing-during-downloading/page/2/#findComment-589531272 Share on other sites More sharing options...
James123 Posted July 4, 2008 Share Posted July 4, 2008 Ah, didn't know it wouldn't work on multiple partitions - does the read benchmark work? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/645900-vista-freezing-during-downloading/page/2/#findComment-589531278 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dance. Posted July 4, 2008 Share Posted July 4, 2008 -have you tried your internet connection on a different computer? -could you try the download with a download manager (like orbit,internet download manager etc.) and see if the problem persists? -instead of saving have you tried to open the file directly ? does that also cause a stutter? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/645900-vista-freezing-during-downloading/page/2/#findComment-589531336 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jigoku Posted July 4, 2008 Author Share Posted July 4, 2008 Ah, didn't know it wouldn't work on multiple partitions - does the read benchmark work? yeh It will do the read benchmark. I will have to re-test it later when my computer starts messing up again. I recently rebooted. >_> lol -have you tried your internet connection on a different computer?-could you try the download with a download manager (like orbit,internet download manager etc.) and see if the problem persists? -instead of saving have you tried to open the file directly ? does that also cause a stutter? -yup, I currently have 3 other computers and xbox live running fine. =x lol -I will have to test out the 2 other suggestions sometime today. Can you recommend a good download manager? x) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/645900-vista-freezing-during-downloading/page/2/#findComment-589531394 Share on other sites More sharing options...
redvamp128 Posted July 4, 2008 Share Posted July 4, 2008 I will test that out later today for you.when I try to run the benchmark I get this alert. my hd was setup like this from the factory. I would try to rerun the test but sign in as the main administrator... It could be that you are using the limited user account. Or either that or create a shortcut to the program and right click choose run with different credentials... It is possible that you may need to be the main admin to run the test. Just a thought. There should be something in the setup of the program to choose which drive. It is possible that it cannot write to the backup partition.(recovery). Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/645900-vista-freezing-during-downloading/page/2/#findComment-589532347 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athlonite Posted July 5, 2008 Share Posted July 5, 2008 just to add to the confusion of things just for my sake just how much actual DATA is sitting on your desktop only i ask this because a friend of mine had this same problem except on a desktop system it turned out he had some 16.67GB of data sitting on his desktop which was totaly filling up his video cards buffer and most of his system ram and pagefile he moved almost all of it but a bar a few shortcuts and that fixed his problem as everything on the desktop wether running or not uses up a portion of ram ergo the more you have the more ram you use till it spills into the pagefile Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/645900-vista-freezing-during-downloading/page/2/#findComment-589533755 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jigoku Posted July 5, 2008 Author Share Posted July 5, 2008 just to add to the confusion of things just for my sake just how much actual DATA is sitting on your desktop only i ask this because a friend of mine had this same problem except on a desktop system it turned out he had some 16.67GB of data sitting on his desktop which was totaly filling up his video cards buffer and most of his system ram and pagefile he moved almost all of it but a bar a few shortcuts and that fixed his problem as everything on the desktop wether running or not uses up a portion of ram ergo the more you have the more ram you use till it spills into the pagefile I have roughly 15gb of music/videos sitting in folders located on my desktop. o.o I will move everything into the C:/ drive area and see if it clears the problem. thanks Atlonite. ;) btw, I've always downloaded everything to my desktops and never had any issues like this before. =/ Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/645900-vista-freezing-during-downloading/page/2/#findComment-589534088 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jigoku Posted July 6, 2008 Author Share Posted July 6, 2008 (edited) I moved everything over to the C:/ drive and my computer is still freezing/jittering when downloading. >< any other Ideas? :\ edit: I was able to run the file benchmark on hd tune.. I'm not sure if this will be of any assistance though. Edited July 6, 2008 by Jigoku Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/645900-vista-freezing-during-downloading/page/2/#findComment-589534851 Share on other sites More sharing options...
redvamp128 Posted July 6, 2008 Share Posted July 6, 2008 Don't think this is the problem but have a look this is from another post. https://www.neowin.net/forum/index.php?show...amp;p=589534294 Possibly DMA mode is not enabled on the drive- Just another shot in the dark. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/645900-vista-freezing-during-downloading/page/2/#findComment-589534869 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jigoku Posted July 6, 2008 Author Share Posted July 6, 2008 Don't think this is the problem but have a look this is from another post.https://www.neowin.net/forum/index.php?show...amp;p=589534294 Possibly DMA mode is not enabled on the drive- Just another shot in the dark. ok, I'm looking at the device controller properties now. How do I tell whether it's in DMA or PIO mode? thanks redvamp. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/645900-vista-freezing-during-downloading/page/2/#findComment-589534879 Share on other sites More sharing options...
redvamp128 Posted July 6, 2008 Share Posted July 6, 2008 In Xp it is under the device manager- then look under the IDE ATA/ATAPI controllers under the Primary Controller- Right Click choose properties then the advanced tab- See if it says DMA there (on your it may Say SATA instead of ATA) But check there for the DMA mode. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/645900-vista-freezing-during-downloading/page/2/#findComment-589534899 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jigoku Posted July 6, 2008 Author Share Posted July 6, 2008 In Xp it is under the device manager- then look under the IDE ATA/ATAPI controllers under the Primary Controller- Right Click choose properties then the advanced tab- See if it says DMA there (on your it may Say SATA instead of ATA) But check there for the DMA mode. I checked all through the properties and couldn't find anything saying dma or pio. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/645900-vista-freezing-during-downloading/page/2/#findComment-589534972 Share on other sites More sharing options...
redvamp128 Posted July 6, 2008 Share Posted July 6, 2008 It could be under the two that say IDE Channel- There should be an Advanced tab on one of them- Also look at the one that says Hard Drive- Vista may put it there. Also on there check to see under Policies- Optimize for performance and write cache is enabled- That is the way my Xp is set but worth a try on your system. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/645900-vista-freezing-during-downloading/page/2/#findComment-589534988 Share on other sites More sharing options...
redvamp128 Posted July 6, 2008 Share Posted July 6, 2008 I did find this about Vista for dma mode- http://club.cdfreaks.com/f61/troubleshooti...0-me-9x-101616/ Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/645900-vista-freezing-during-downloading/page/2/#findComment-589535097 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jigoku Posted July 6, 2008 Author Share Posted July 6, 2008 I did find this about Vista for dma mode-http://club.cdfreaks.com/f61/troubleshooti...0-me-9x-101616/ damn.. well it was worth a shot! xD was looking at the hard disk properties and noticed write caching isn't enabled.. should I? lol Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/645900-vista-freezing-during-downloading/page/2/#findComment-589535658 Share on other sites More sharing options...
redvamp128 Posted July 6, 2008 Share Posted July 6, 2008 (edited) If you read it - It says This setting improves disk performance , but a power outage or equipment failure might result in data loss or corruption. You said- My computer would even freeze before downloading.. o_o as soon as I click on a link and the " save now" dialog box appears it will freeze. That may speed it up or worse case it will still do what it is doing. Edited July 6, 2008 by redvamp128 Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/645900-vista-freezing-during-downloading/page/2/#findComment-589536022 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jigoku Posted July 7, 2008 Author Share Posted July 7, 2008 yeh so don't even bother with that setting right.. lol even when I'm streaming music with winamp the song starts skipping when loading webpages. That definitely shouldn't happen with 30 Mbps connection. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/645900-vista-freezing-during-downloading/page/2/#findComment-589538589 Share on other sites More sharing options...
redvamp128 Posted July 7, 2008 Share Posted July 7, 2008 You probably could go with the first check mark-- see if it improves-- sorry I may be in and out tonight it is supposed to storm here-... But I probably would not do the one that says Advanced performance...Unless the first check mark does well- You should not have to worry about the power outage since it is a laptop. Just make sure that you stay plugged in. Try the first check mark see if it improves... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/645900-vista-freezing-during-downloading/page/2/#findComment-589538604 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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