Jay-Z 1, Racism 0

[NotChetHanks]

Nobody wanted Jay-Z to perform at Glastonbury but he did it!

Original Story

Oasis' Noel Gallagher has said that he thinks the decision to book Jay-Z for a headline set at this year's Glastonbury festival was incorrect.

Speaking to BBC News, Gallagher said that deviating from the festival's tradition of booking guitar-based headliners was "wrong".

"If it ain't broke don't fix it," he said. "If you start to break it then people aren't going to go. I'm sorry, but Jay-Z? No chance.

"Glastonbury has a tradition of guitar music and even when they throw the odd curve ball in on a Sunday night you go 'Kylie Minogue?' I don't know about it. But I'm not having hip-hop at Glastonbury. It's wrong."

Noel Gallagher has also spoken about Oasis' UK live plans, responding to repeated rumours the band would play the O2 Arena in London.

NEW Story

He came, he saw, he conquered. Strolling onstage with a guitar for a tongue-in-cheek cover of Oasis' Wonderall, Jay-Z's headline set was shot through with style and humour. With no special guests he made the Pyramid stage bounce with a devastating greatest hits set that marked a defining moment for Glastonbury. Point proved.

Watch how they embrace him. This is a monumental event and it just shows that there is space for everyone musically. This is a big triumph for hip hop and a big loss for those little racist bastards!

[Mike]

hip-hop is a race now?

[TheDogsBed]

What the hell does this have to do with racism? And which 'racist bastards', while we're at it?

[red.]

What the hell does this have to do with race?

EDIT: SniperX and i posting the exact same thing at the exact same time :p

[StevoJD]

Jay Z is ftw.

[HawkMan]

how does this relate to racism at all ?

and why have rap artists at this kind of festuival anyway ? yeah sure there will be eople watching all the jay z fans that otherwise wouldn't havebeen at that festival, BUT wouldn't it be better to arrange another festival for those that like that music and not use it in a festval that allready has a different image. sure people can like multiple usic tpes and most do, though I'm not sure these are the styles many people like both off. .

[brentaal]

This is a big triumph for hip hop and a big loss for those little racist bastards!

Erm... okay :blink:

Not liking a music genre clearly means you're racist. :blink:

[troist]

I'll join on all the "hip-hop is a race?" comments... Hip-hop is a genre of music, and Jay-Z wasn't being criticized for being black at all.

Glastonbury is kind of a rock festival, its definitely not a hip-hop festival so why they decided to hire Jay-Z to headline is beyond me but there's always Reading and Download for proper rock festivals :D

[NotChetHanks]

bull****. With all the conversations about Hip Hop on Neowin that turn into a conversation about race? You are telling me that this has nothing to do with race? Then why wouldnt he embrace Hip Hop, give me one good reason.

[-T- Member]

I still don't think he shoulda been at Glasto, not because he's black, but cos it's not a Hip Hop festival, it's primarily aimed at guitar/rock style bands. He's lucky he didn't get the same treatment as fiddy with the bottle showers he received.

And like everyone else said, WTF with racism in the title, that has nothing to do with the topic @ all.

[HawkMan]

let's try this with one word at a time

because it was not a Hip hop festival

festivals are about the damn music not the color of the artist

[giga Veteran]

This has nothing to do with black people or racism.

That Wonderwall cover was damn awful as well. :x

[TheDogsBed]

bull****. With all the conversations about Hip Hop on Neowin that turn into a conversation about race? You are telling me that this has nothing to do with race? Then why wouldnt he embrace Hip Hop, give me one good reason.

lol Have you listened to yourself? Think about it, why wouldn't Noel Gallagher like Hip-Hop. Hmmm, which is more likely do you think - he likes his 'rock' music to be pure rock music and is heavily influenced by an era where Hip-Hop hadn't even been thought about...

or....

He's a racist.

You know, it is possible to really hate a particular genre of music and not be a racist. I know that may sting your beliefs a little, but lots of us do it. I absolutely hate hip-hop too. But just to really cloud your bizarre world up a little, I'm travelling for hours on end on Thursday to go see my "black" friend! Imagine that eh? In fact, I can't wait to tell him how I met this nut on a forum who believed that just because Noel Gallagher disliked Jay-Z being at Glastonbury, he must be racist.

[Typhon]

He sounded like ****.

[SIE]

Then why wouldnt he embrace Hip Hop, give me one good reason.

Because like me he thinks most of it is ****ing ****. Embrace hip hop, gimme a break and get a life ffs.

[Typhon]

lol Have you listened to yourself? Think about it, why wouldn't Noel Gallagher like Hip-Hop. Hmmm, which is more likely do you think - he likes his 'rock' music to be pure rock music and is heavily influenced by an era where Hip-Hop hadn't even been thought about...

or....

He's a racist.

You know, it is possible to really hate a particular genre of music and not be a racist. I know that may sting your beliefs a little, but even I do it. I hate hip-hop too. But just to really cloud your bizarre world up a little, I'm travelling for hours on end on Thursday to go see my "black" friend! Imagine that eh?

I don't know that sounds racist coming from you but if you were black I would not have a problem :)

[TheDogsBed]

I don't know that sounds racist coming from you but if you were black I would not have a problem :)

hehe If you think I'm racist, you really are mixed up! I hate all people, black or white. :)

[HawkMan]

hehe If you think I'm racist, you really are mixed up! I hate all people, black or white. :)

what about the pink and th blue ? :p

[theyarecomingforyou]

Disliking hip-hop is certainly NOT the same as being racist.

[Typhon]

hehe If you think I'm racist, you really are mixed up! I hate all people, black or white. :)

I was kidding hehehe. I think your a good man.

[NotChetHanks]

lol Have you listened to yourself? Think about it, why wouldn't Noel Gallagher like Hip-Hop. Hmmm, which is more likely do you think - he likes his 'rock' music to be pure rock music and is heavily influenced by an era where Hip-Hop hadn't even been thought about...

or....

He's a racist.

You know, it is possible to really hate a particular genre of music and not be a racist. I know that may sting your beliefs a little, but lots of us do it. I absolutely hate hip-hop too. But just to really cloud your bizarre world up a little, I'm travelling for hours on end on Thursday to go see my "black" friend! Imagine that eh? In fact, I can't wait to tell him how I met this nut on a forum who believed that just because Noel Gallagher disliked Jay-Z being at Glastonbury, he must be racist.

There are alot of music genre's I don't care for, blue grass is one. That does not mean I have to criticize it at every turn like most of you do. I would't call myself a rock fan or alternative for that matter but right now I am getting ready for church and I am ironing clothes listening to Sum 41, Maroon 5, Flyleaf, Blink 182, Green Day, even Colbie Caillat. There are a few gems in every genre of music but most people, you may be one of them, say they hate the music as a cover for your real feelings. ;)

I posted a article a few months back about Jay-Z teaming up with Apple to start a record company and my God, the responses. Here is a snippet from the source at Engadget:

That's not even the worst! There was another comment that said that the only way they would approve it is if Jay-Z was contractually obligated to call Steve Jobs "Massuh".

Simple as this, if you don't agree, no need to reply and just let this thread die. But the reality is, some people hate rap music because they hate black people. If this isn't you, then don't worry about it.

Edit: You being white and having a black friend doesn't mean a damn thing.

[-T- Member]

I think in response to this, Oasis should be nominated for a MOBO award, and if they aint, then it's cos they're all racists. I know the awards are for Music of Black Origin, but they should embrace white rockers

[/sarcasm]

Also C-Squarez, why are u constantly implying that if someone doesn't like rap/hip-hop, then they are racist? Why try create a problem that doesn't exist? It's a ridiculous assumption based on your theory that not liking rap = white & racist.

[giga Veteran]

But the reality is, some people hate rap music because they hate black people. If this isn't you, then don't worry about it.

Some people hate rock music because they hate white people. See how I can do that?

Surely you're not generalizing that the people who didn't want Jay-Z there at Glastonbury didn't like his skin color?

Hey look, it's Bloc Party at Glastonbury!

[TheDogsBed]

That does not mean I have to criticize it at every turn like most of you do.

Eh? Are you on something that you shouldn't be? If not, have you considered going on it? As far as I can see, all in this thread have just asked how you managed to get from Noel Gallagher not liking Hip-Hop, to you believing that is an issue of racism.

If you're still posting today, based on posts made in the past, then well, there's not a lot anyone can do to help you there. That's your problem. I'm not qualified to be a psychologist...

Edit: You being white and having a black friend doesn't mean a damn thing.

I think it illustrates that I'd be a peculiar type of racist, at the very least, and that not everyone who doesn't care for hip-hop has a seething hatred for black people. Just remove the chip from your shoulder and you'll find the world is a much brighter place than you clearly think it is.

[brentaal]

I think in response to this, Oasis should be nominated for a MOBO award, and if they aint, then it's cos they're all racists. I know the awards are for Music of Black Origin, but they should embrace white rockers

[/sarcasm]

This. :)