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World of Warcraft 11,342,932

Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare Multiplayer 11,144,455

Call of Duty 2 Multiplayer 5,872,916

Counter-Strike: Source 2,398,372

Battlefield 2 1,635,663

Warcraft III - The Frozen Throne 1,416,380

Warhammer Online: Age of Reckoning 1,271,038

Silkroad Online 996,613

Wolfenstein: Enemy Territory 977,178

Guild Wars 897,222

EA Mythic needs to do something or this game is gonna be a huge bust, like it has already proven to be..

Minutes played today

World of Warcraft 11,342,932

Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare Multiplayer 11,144,455

Call of Duty 2 Multiplayer 5,872,916

Counter-Strike: Source 2,398,372

Battlefield 2 1,635,663

Warcraft III - The Frozen Throne 1,416,380

Warhammer Online: Age of Reckoning 1,271,038

Silkroad Online 996,613

Wolfenstein: Enemy Territory 977,178

Guild Wars 897,222

EA Mythic needs to do something or this game is gonna be a huge bust, like it has already proven to be..

Yep, ~750,000 registered players in less than a month. Huge bust. Don't like it? Don't play it. Now run along and grind some more hellboars.

Yep, ~750,000 registered players in less than a month. Huge bust. Don't like it? Don't play it. Now run along and grind some more hellboars.

Oh how clever, hellboars...sorry i dont play WoW.

I played WAR and enjoyed it thoroughly but it just seemed to be...boring? I wonder how many people are going to still be playing after their one month is up (this was my initial reason to post)

Then how did you know about one specific species of animal in WoW? Lucky guess?

Enjoyed WAR thoroughly, yet you find it boring?

Troll much? Or just starved for attention?

If you're really 21 years old, might want to try acting like it, instead of randomly insulting something other people enjoy.

EA Mythic needs to do something or this game is gonna be a huge bust, like it has already proven to be..

Yeah I mean it if hasn't got 10 million subs they might as well **** it off and go down the pub right?

On a happier note I just hit 39, one more level and I can take it easy while my guild catches up and I can now arse about in world RvR more. :D

Then how did you know about one specific species of animal in WoW? Lucky guess?

Enjoyed WAR thoroughly, yet you find it boring?

Troll much? Or just starved for attention?

If you're really 21 years old, might want to try acting like it, instead of randomly insulting something other people enjoy.

I'm glad you can read. Starved for attention? Nah. I did like WAR but then i hit a spot. Playing scenarios with 95% rejects and clickers who cant even put their fingers on WASD got tiresome.

I played WoW for a long time, and please dont reply with the usual fanboy crap cause i do understand the games are very different and War HAD the potential to be 1000000x better than WoW. It is better than wow imho, but it still sucks. This game is not living up to the hype, reoccurring subscribers will dwindle month by month

http://www.warhammeralliance.com/forums/sh...ad.php?t=134117

^11 pages of people who feel exactly like me.

https://www.neowin.net/forum/index.php?show...#entry589919866

The game is terrible I can not even stand to login any more. T3 is a mindless grind. I wanted to play one story line pairing through the game but that is not possible. Instead you need to jump to other pairings in the middle of chapters. Its like reading one book till chapter 13 putting it down then picking up another book you have never read and skipping right to chapter 7. It completely kills the feel of the pairing and discourages characters from creating alts.

The other problem is direction. Warhammer does not direct you in its game play for example I will use WoW (since most have played it) when your questing in the barrens and you start to out level your area the game directs you to go to ashenvale. This simply does not occur in Warhammer and leads to alot of confusion and frustration (It did occur briefly in the empire vs chaos pairing in T2).

Mythic pretty much stated they wanted to release the game before WoTLK since WoW is at a low point right now with people being bored of content. However in doing so they released a game that feels unpolished and down right sloppy.

No one knows why they nerfed the exp from OB to release by 30% for questing and mythic has yet to acknowledge the problem.

Don't even get me started on rehashing the Daoc engine.

I could tirelessly rant on into the night but those who are blinded by their zealous fanboism will continue to play the game. But hopefully I can reach out to that one person who was maybe on the edge about buying the game and discourage him or her from doing so.

A quick note regarding Xfire it is a good way of judging how a game is being received in the market on warhammers release it easily surpassed WC3 TFT and BF2 over the last 2 weeks it has steadily declined from 4 to 5 down to #6 http://www.xfire.com/games/who/Warhammer_O...e_of_Reckoning/

Simply look at the chart.

The game is terrible I can not even stand to login any more. T3 is a mindless grind. I wanted to play one story line pairing through the game but that is not possible. Instead you need to jump to other pairings in the middle of chapters. Its like reading one book till chapter 13 putting it down then picking up another book you have never read and skipping right to chapter 7. It completely kills the feel of the pairing and discourages characters from creating alts.

You must have real trouble following two TV shows at once.

The other problem is direction. Warhammer does not direct you in its game play for example I will use WoW (since most have played it) when your questing in the barrens and you start to out level your area the game directs you to go to ashenvale.

They do. There will always be quests that lead you to the next chapter camp if you complete the series and rally masters have a set of quests once you hit the second pip to branch the story. But while we are talking about WoW it was impossible do follow Barrens to Ashenvale without skipping over to Hillsbrad due to the lack of quests. The situation isn't unique to WAR. Yes it could be improved but you have to encourage people to look at other racial pairings or the RvR lakes would be dominated by one side.

No one knows why they nerfed the exp from OB to release by 30% for questing and mythic has yet to acknowledge the problem.

To quote mythic:

As part of our ongoing effort to tweak Warhammer Online based on player play patterns, we are making some adjustments to the rate and manner of experience gain in certain parts of the game. We continually analyze the data from our in-game metrics tool and as a result, we have made some changes to WAR. These changes will ensure that you will see a noticeable improvement to the rate at which you gain experience in tiers 3 and 4.

We are currently in the planning stages for our next phase of experience enhancements, so expect more on this subject soon. In the meantime, we know these adjustments will make for an enhanced game experience in the later tiers as well as providing additional incentive for people to engage in open RvR action. Again, please keep in mind that these changes are only the first step and we have some additional changes/improvements to open RvR that we can talk about next week.

Quest Experience Rewards

* We have revised the experience awarded for completing quests in chapters 10 through 22.

New Repeatable Quests

* We have added new repeatable PvE quests to all tier 3 chapters (chapters 10 through 14).

* The new quests offered in chapters 10 and 11 may be completed twice each.

* The new quests offered in chapters 12 and 13 may be completed three times each.

* The new quests offered in chapter 14 may be completed four times each.

Skirmish RvR Experience

* The experience earned for killing an enemy player in an RvR lake will be increased by +50%.

I could tirelessly rant on into the night but those who are blinded by their zealous fanboism will continue to play the game. But hopefully I can reach out to that one person who was maybe on the edge about buying the game and discourage him or her from doing so.

Why? If someone wants to try again you're going to troll them in to submission. Are they not allowed to form their own opinion on something or are you always this right?

What I see is two overly zealous people hating this game. My self correcting you and everyone else plodding through and enjoying them selfs. Seriously if you didn't like it, that's fine. But while do you feel the need to reassure your self on this choice by trolling the thread?

Honestly I love this game. I still play WoW, I still play Eve Online, and I also play Warhammer Online. Warhammer Online is a great game and if I could only pick one to play it would be Warhammer Online. The quests are actually FUN instead of tedious. Despite what Magichat says, they always send you to another place to get quests. The quest locations show on your map too, making for a much easier time finding where they need to be completed and where they need to be turned in.

Well, I'm loving WAR. Sorry some people get off in ****ing in other people's cheerios, but guess that's just the inherent immaturity of forums and being able to hide behind a keyboard.

Just for giggles, for the two or so attention-starved individuals that felt the need to come in here and bitch needlessly, what games do you consider GOOD? Just so I have a basis of comparison. Tell me, other than WoW and WAR, what MMOs do you enjoy?

Well, I'm loving WAR. Sorry some people get off in ****ing in other people's cheerios, but guess that's just the inherent immaturity of forums and being able to hide behind a keyboard.

Just for giggles, for the two or so attention-starved individuals that felt the need to come in here and bitch needlessly, what games do you consider GOOD? Just so I have a basis of comparison. Tell me, other than WoW and WAR, what MMOs do you enjoy?

Are you attention starved? Lonely? Why do you insist that us attention starved individuals keep posting? I forgot about this thread already but i guess you can welcome me back

To be specific, i did enjoy WAR. For like a week. I did enjoy WoW as i played it for quite awhile. Star Wars Galaxies was very good until SoE ****ed it up...FFXI was amusing. Are you writing a book? GOOD MMOs are the likes of UO, there hasn't been any since

With regards to spookie:

"They do. There will always be quests that lead you to the next chapter camp if you complete the series and rally masters have a set of quests once you hit the second pip to branch the story. But while we are talking about WoW it was impossible do follow Barrens to Ashenvale without skipping over to Hillsbrad due to the lack of quests. The situation isn't unique to WAR. Yes it could be improved but you have to encourage people to look at other racial pairings or the RvR lakes would be dominated by one side."

And the exp related news.

That is only SLIGHTLY true for the pairing you are playing. when you run out of quest in that pairing the game offers no direction were to go from their and as such you pick up a bunch of quest in the war camp and try to work your way forward from there most of the quest are below your level and you have a feeling of being lost.

With regards to the new xp increases: Good that is a step in the right direction and just shows that I and other players were right about how crappy the grind was. Now give us the hard figures of how much xp % was increased because I logged in today because of this thread and did a quest and still only got 3k laughed and logged off.

I would say they screwed a huge chunk of the remaining population by upping the exp like that and not REDUCING the exp needed to level. For example lets take a 30 Black orc who has run out of quest in all 3 pairings prior to this patch. He now has to grind until he can do the new quest. Decreasing exp needed to level would have been the smarter move, while increasing the quest exp and giving a bonus to players over a certain level (Say 35) as compensation (But that would probably never happen).

So even if they get the XP in line can we then start to address balance issues? Pet pathing? Mob Ai? Chain roots/knock backs? The Daoc window dragging exploit?.....

The game simply still has a LONG ways to go.

But hey I do like the new queuing system!

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Well, I'm loving WAR. Sorry some people get off in ****ing in other people's cheerios, but guess that's just the inherent immaturity of forums and being able to hide behind a keyboard.

Just for giggles, for the two or so attention-starved individuals that felt the need to come in here and bitch needlessly, what games do you consider GOOD? Just so I have a basis of comparison. Tell me, other than WoW and WAR, what MMOs do you enjoy?

Personal attacks on people who do not agree with you about a VIDEO GAME? Sounds like someone needs a life.

"inherent immaturity of forums and being able to hide behind a keyboard." Id be more than happy to meet you in person and discuss WARHAMMER with you simply send me a pm with your location and we can set up a time and date to meet!

Don't get so your panties in a knot simply because people do not agree with your perception of a game.

What other MMO's have I played and enjoyed? Asherons call 2, Dungeon siege 2, City of heroes, FFXI, WoW, SWG (Great game pre-cu), Planetside, Gun Game, Briefly EQ1. Hated AoC could not run it on my comp.

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That is only SLIGHTLY true for the pairing you are playing. when you run out of quest in that pairing the game offers no direction were to go from their and as such you pick up a bunch of quest in the war camp and try to work your way forward from there most of the quest are below your level and you have a feeling of being lost.

Sorry but no you're wrong. Quests do regularly send you over to other warcamps to investigate goings on and thus leading you to other quests. I'm not stupid. I don't need to have my hand held to reach every quest on the map. I'm playing an RPG I like exploring and adventure. Maybe you're more suited to say something more linear in nature like a FPS. :)

With regards to the new xp increases: Good that is a step in the right direction and just shows that I and other players were right about how crappy the grind was. Now give us the hard figures of how much xp % was increased because I logged in today because of this thread and did a quest and still only got 3k laughed and logged off.

Wouldn't know. Still waiting for the hotfix to be applied on EU soil. TY France and their **** poor regulations on working weekends. :/

I would say they screwed a huge chunk of the remaining population by upping the exp like that and not REDUCING the exp needed to level. For example lets take a 30 Black orc who has run out of quest in all 3 pairings prior to this patch. He now has to grind until he can do the new quest. Decreasing exp needed to level would have been the smarter move, while increasing the quest exp and giving a bonus to players over a certain level (Say 35) as compensation (But that would probably never happen).

I did 27-38 solo. I can say, hand on heart, I didn't run out of any quests. I did the odd PQ stage on my own for the bonus & the odd scenario. If you ran out of quests and had to grind a level. You're doing something wrong. :)

So even if they get the XP in line can we then start to address balance issues? Pet pathing? Mob Ai? Chain roots/knock backs? The Daoc window dragging exploit?.....

The game simply still has a LONG ways to go.

Yes the game has issues, niggling issues. But none on par with AoCs release, nor WoWs release. Yes it's competing with a game which game out 4 years ago and we'd love it to be at the same level of polish. But that was never going to happen. Now if we were to be seeing no feedback from the devs and no immediate updates applied I'd happily agree that things are bleak. But Mythic actively talk to the community (hi funcom) with out being patronising (hi blizz) and we're seeing regular hotfixes almost every day and regular patches.

I disagree. The future for the MMO looks bright.

Sorry but no you're wrong. Quests do regularly send you over to other warcamps to investigate goings on and thus leading you to other quests. I'm not stupid. I don't need to have my hand held to reach every quest on the map. I'm playing an RPG I like exploring and adventure. Maybe you're more suited to say something more linear in nature like a FPS. :)

I am not going to bash someone for liking a game so if you are enjoying war than the more power to ya. But each player will interpret a game differently. The only quest I have encountered that sent me to the other pairings were the ones like go see how our dwarven brethren are doing, but once their I felt really out of sync. Perhaps since I was hopping to engage more actively in RvR I wanted the pve side of the game to be very linear. I know that on the server I play on and the one a friend of mine plays on RvR feels really dead Tiers 1-3 now that people are beginning to hit tier 4 there is some more RvR but like you stated earlier you almost took over the capital city because destruction could not muster enough players to counter your side. Maybe there latest changes with +xp bonus to realms with low pops will help it maybe it wont. Only time will tell.

I never ended up getting the game, went from playing the Beta and pre-ordering the game to not even getting it.

I might pick it up again at some point cause I did enjoy it, but I just paid over $200 for LOTRO and LOTRO:MoM, so I am happy with that :)

Glad though lots of people are playing around here!!

Are you attention starved? Lonely? Why do you insist that us attention starved individuals keep posting? I forgot about this thread already but i guess you can welcome me back

To be specific, i did enjoy WAR. For like a week. I did enjoy WoW as i played it for quite awhile. Star Wars Galaxies was very good until SoE ****ed it up...FFXI was amusing. Are you writing a book? GOOD MMOs are the likes of UO, there hasn't been any since

you'd probably enjoy playing Vanguard on the FFA PvP servers.

I finally broke down and bought the game last night. Having a blast so far. Just looking for some people to group up with. Any one playing on the Avelorn server?

Sure am! I just started a Bright Wizard with my roommate, he started a Witch Hunter. Already have a R27 White Lion. Give me some contact info, lets meet up :)

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I was surprised by how well-designed the web portal is. It is fast, pretty, and properly categorized. Well done! Once you have your books loaded, you can highlight or underline text, add annotations, bookmark pages, check the table of contents, and ask AI about the selected text. Unfortunately, the Krono has no built-in vocabulary, but again, that is something a third-party reader could fix. Overall, the built-in reader is light and snappy, with just the minimum amount of features for a regular user to enjoy reading books. The Krono has no built-in reading tracking, so stat nerds will have to look for third-party reading apps. However, you can set a daily reading goal, and the reader will notify you when you reach it (for example, one hour). You can also set a reminder to read at a certain time, and when the time comes, the Krono will light up its back LEDs and unlock itself to nudge you. Other than that, the rear LEDs do nothing, not even showing charging progress, which is an unfortunate misopportunity if you ask me. Quirks aside, Krono's Android runs quite snappily and bug-free. Early reviews of the Krono criticized its Android 13-based software quite a lot, but now, the reader runs Android 15, and its software has fixed plenty of initial complaints. I never experienced any issues with built-in apps. AI attempts The DuRoBo Krono comes with a built-in AI chatbot. There is no information on what model powers this thing, but the system says it was "trained by Google." You can launch the bot from the app list or by double-pressing the dial. It works just like any other chatbot, and you can ask it anything by typing or using voice input. The AI saves your chats, and you can rename, export, or delete them. DuRoBo AI requires an active internet connection, and it does not work offline. Its reach and capabilities are also limited. You can only chat in the app and use it in the reader app as a makeshift vocabulary. However, the implementation is kinda awkward. You can only send a selected portion of text to AI without giving it any requests or instructions. I highlighted the word "dumb," and it apologized to me for not being useful. You also cannot ask follow-up questions or send the generated response to a separate chat. The chatbot is also slow, even with fast Wi-Fi, making the overall experience quite frustrating, which makes me again wish for the ability to remap the double press to something else. Spark, the standard voice recording app, also uses AI for note summarization and transcribing. Neither feature works offline, unfortunately. Spark records notes up to 30 minutes using Krono's dual microphones, and you can rename or export notes. Transcription quality is decent, and the speed is alright, but you can find much better solutions in the Google Play Store. What I like about Spark is that transcribed notes are not locked, and you can always type more to elaborate on your ideas, which is handy. Overall, I like that the Krono is not shoving AI down my throat, but to be honest, there is really not that much to shove. AI features here feel raw and need improvements to be more useful. Battery Life Like most E-Ink readers, the Krono has fantastic battery life. Even with a clock as a screensaver, its standby power consumption is incredibly low. And when in use, you can get weeks of reading on a single charge. Without the front light, my unit never sipped more than one or two percent of battery during a one-hour reading session. It was nice to see plenty of battery-related settings. You can limit charging at 80% to protect battery health long-term, check the number of charging cycles, manufacturing/first-time use date, battery health, and the maximum capacity. Additionally, the Krono lets you select what hardware remains enabled when sleeping. This lets you keep Wi-Fi and Bluetooth on (say, if you want to receive notifications, for some reason) and keep audio playing when locked. Turning these features off effectively eliminates any standby battery drain. I left my Krono sitting for 24 hours with a clock screensaver on, and it did not drop a single percent. The pretty big 3,950 mAh battery justifies the device's thickness and ensures you do not have to charge it for long periods. Speaking of charging, it is capped at only 10W, which is a bit disappointing, as getting such a big battery to 100% takes a notably long time in the era of super-fast charging smartphones. DuRoBo Moodi The Moodi is a standalone, optional accessory for your Krono. It is a wireless remote with two customizable buttons that you can use to flip pages, control media, or scroll webpages. The accessory connects via Bluetooth. Despite having a built-in rechargeable battery, it is extremely light. While the Moodi's shape and form factor is not what I would call particularly ergonomic, it is not uncomfortable to hold and use. The Moodi comes with six removable magnetic buttons with various smiley faces. Buttons sit securely, and they have nice-feeling, albeit a little loud, clicks. It is a cute touch that adds a little more fun and character to the device. There is also an accented power button and a single status LED. The latter displays charging status and connection mode. The Moodi supports three modes: Reading: Buttons work as volume buttons, allowing you to flip pages in the built-in reader or other apps that support page turning with volume buttons. Media: Buttons work as skip forward/backward, which is useful when listening to audiobooks, podcasts, or music. Scroll: The third mode lets you scroll pages in the web browser or any other application The Krono properly detects the Moodi and presents you with an on-screen guide when you connect it for the first time (it also displays the battery level). However, you can only change modes by holding both buttons for a few seconds. It is also worth noting that the Moodi works with other devices. I connected it to my iPhone and it let me adjust volume or control media playback. Sadly, the scroll did not work, so you cannot use it to waste time scrolling TikToks. Overall, the Moodi is a cute little accessory, which I can recommend for those who read a lot. It is very useful for remote page flipping when you do not want to burden your hands by holding the Krono all the time. I only wish DuRoBo included a lanyard for the built-in loop. As for the battery life, after using the Moodi for a few days, I only managed to drop several percent of its 90 mAh battery. Despite the small size, it is rated for weeks of use, which is pretty impressive. At $35.99, I cannot say the Moodi is a must-have accessory, but I see the appeal. I prefer using the Krono with its Smart Dial, as I rarely read for more than 40-60 minutes in one sitting. However, if you have a stand and like reading for long periods, the Moodi is the right thing to have. It is a bit more expensive than regular page flippers on Amazon, but it is on par with similar products from Kobo or BOOX. Plus, it has a little more fun to it with removable buttons and better integration into the Krono. Conclusion At the end of the day, DuRoBo Krono is a nice pocket-sized e-reader. Its software focuses on the main things without trying to be everything at once. The smart dial idea is unique and great, and I wish more manufacturers had something similar in their devices. The display is also good, with an even frontlight and "always-on" support. I did not notice any deal-breaking issues with the Krono. However, you can feel that the idea needs some improvements, such as a slightly stiffer dial in a more ergonomic location, perhaps a little more premium materials, and better software customization. I hope the company won't give up on the idea and improve the dial and ergonomics in the second generation. Buy DuRoBo Krono Black - $279.99 on Amazon Buy DuRoBo Krono White - $279.99 on Amazon Buy DuRoBo Moodi - $35.99 on Amazon As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.
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