Corris Veteran Posted August 9, 2008 Veteran Share Posted August 9, 2008 Its odd, but I would guess my ISP. When I went away with friends to some where around Wales in a house, somewhat in the middle of nowhere, there was sky broadband. And when I hooked up my Ps3 to it, it was relaly fast, friends list would load super quickly, everything was really fast, the houses connection was about 2Mb. When at home, on Virgin Media and also 2Mb, the friend list and pretty much everything else is a good bit slower, its very annoying. I'm never sure if it is my ISP doing something, or generally slowing things down (it gets a bit quicker in the night sometimes) or even if it is my wireless router messing aorund somehow. I have a Belkin N router with the PS3, DMZ'd and all. But I get an error saying about IP fragments if anyone would like to help me out? :D Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/655322-why-is-the-sony-network-so-slow/page/2/#findComment-589629386 Share on other sites More sharing options...
metro Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 Downloading an HD game trailer at 234MB took over 20 minutes through the PSN. I can download that through my connection in just over 4 minutes elsewhere. Lame. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/655322-why-is-the-sony-network-so-slow/page/2/#findComment-589630976 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cpu killer Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 *shrug* I'm at a university and I usually download a 1.1gb demo in less than 15 minutes on my 360; my roommate who has a PS3 took longer than that to get his 2.4.0 update. Same EXACT connection to the internet, no router as our university uses 802.1x auth and we just use ICS through our laptops. Go figure, right? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/655322-why-is-the-sony-network-so-slow/page/2/#findComment-589630994 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coldgunner Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 don't forget, some ISP's still have lmitations imposed on PSN traffic. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/655322-why-is-the-sony-network-so-slow/page/2/#findComment-589631340 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sethos Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 don't forget, some ISP's still have lmitations imposed on PSN traffic. Source? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/655322-why-is-the-sony-network-so-slow/page/2/#findComment-589631358 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coldgunner Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 Source? http://www.ispreview.co.uk/news/EEZZpVllkFVUXYNdAg.html http://www.avforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=730140 http://www.eurogamer.net/forum_thread_post...hread_id=102551 mostly forum reports I know, but its not unknown. Anyone remember steam being heavily restricted by some ISP's. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/655322-why-is-the-sony-network-so-slow/page/2/#findComment-589631366 Share on other sites More sharing options...
popisdead uk Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 It's true, there is no other reason that they don't. I have Virgin Media (20MB) cable broadband at home and the speeds are nothing special (the 360 beats it all ends up for download speed). As soon as I take my PS3 to friends/family that don't use Virgin, the speed is comparable to the 360 speed at my house. I've spoken to Virgin and they told me they monitor the ports/routes of the PSN more closely and restrict them, whereas they don't with the XBL. Crazy, but that's what they told me. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/655322-why-is-the-sony-network-so-slow/page/2/#findComment-589631368 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WastedJoker Posted August 10, 2008 Author Share Posted August 10, 2008 I think BT Broadband must do the same - that might be why PSN network is superfast after midnight. Maybe the restrictions are lifted during off-peak times. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/655322-why-is-the-sony-network-so-slow/page/2/#findComment-589631460 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrunknMunky Veteran Posted August 10, 2008 Veteran Share Posted August 10, 2008 I don't get lag when playing online, but the download speeds are awful from PSN. Pretty sure my ISP doesn't monitor the ports either :blink: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/655322-why-is-the-sony-network-so-slow/page/2/#findComment-589631522 Share on other sites More sharing options...
popisdead uk Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 They will be doing. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/655322-why-is-the-sony-network-so-slow/page/2/#findComment-589631530 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrunknMunky Veteran Posted August 10, 2008 Veteran Share Posted August 10, 2008 I doubt it, my ISP doesn't give a rats ass about torrenting or anything it seems lol. Hence why I'm with them :D Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/655322-why-is-the-sony-network-so-slow/page/2/#findComment-589631542 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sethos Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 (edited) Just got off the phone with my ISP and they assured me they would never limit bandwidth or certain services. They even had calls concerning the Playstation Network before from other costumers. So I'm guessing it's horrible servers / server locality. I doubt it, my ISP doesn't give a rats ass about torrenting or anything it seems lol.Hence why I'm with them :D My ISP was caught serving and using Warez software a few years ago :laugh: Edited August 10, 2008 by Sethos Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/655322-why-is-the-sony-network-so-slow/page/2/#findComment-589631544 Share on other sites More sharing options...
popisdead uk Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 I doubt it, my ISP doesn't give a rats ass about torrenting or anything it seems lol.Hence why I'm with them :D Who are you using? Be? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/655322-why-is-the-sony-network-so-slow/page/2/#findComment-589631550 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrunknMunky Veteran Posted August 10, 2008 Veteran Share Posted August 10, 2008 Who are you using? Be? Nope, UK Online. I've search and not found any other complaints of them throttling etc. Which would be true since I don't experience any of the issues like lag or dropped connections other gamers seem to encounter. PSN is the only one with the issue, neither XBL, my PC/laptop, N95, Wii (when I had it), PSP/DS etc have any problems. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/655322-why-is-the-sony-network-so-slow/page/2/#findComment-589631562 Share on other sites More sharing options...
popisdead uk Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 If they don't throttle the speed, it will be something to do with the ports the PSN tends to use. It's **** to be honest. Gaming is perfect, but getting stuff from the store can be hard work! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/655322-why-is-the-sony-network-so-slow/page/2/#findComment-589631572 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PyX Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 I have to admit that 120 kb/s with a 10 Mbits connection is really bad. Like when there's a new firmware up on the servers, I'm almost crying on my sofa... no seriously, I am. I think Sony's network is just ?ber slow. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/655322-why-is-the-sony-network-so-slow/page/2/#findComment-589631882 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xerxes Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 For me it depends on what I'm doing, surfing the net, downloading trailers, demos from PSN Store are about on par with my PC/360. Game updates on the other hand, tend to be on the slow side of things, guess I just choose bad times to update my games :p Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/655322-why-is-the-sony-network-so-slow/page/2/#findComment-589631898 Share on other sites More sharing options...
popisdead uk Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 I have to admit that 120 kb/s with a 10 Mbits connection is really bad. Like when there's a new firmware up on the servers, I'm almost crying on my sofa... no seriously, I am.I think Sony's network is just ?ber slow. It's not though, is it? Many people report having no problems with the speed. It tends to be a handful of ISP's causing the problem. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/655322-why-is-the-sony-network-so-slow/page/2/#findComment-589631982 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sethos Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 It's not though, is it? Many people report having no problems with the speed. It tends to be a handful of ISP's causing the problem. Can't keep blaming the ISP. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/655322-why-is-the-sony-network-so-slow/page/2/#findComment-589631986 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrunknMunky Veteran Posted August 10, 2008 Veteran Share Posted August 10, 2008 I think Sony's network is just ?ber slow. Agreed. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/655322-why-is-the-sony-network-so-slow/page/2/#findComment-589631988 Share on other sites More sharing options...
popisdead uk Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 Can't keep blaming the ISP's? Why not?? Some work fine with the PSN, others are slow? What would you say is the problem?? It's quite obvious really. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/655322-why-is-the-sony-network-so-slow/page/2/#findComment-589631990 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cormier6083 Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 I have to admit that 120 kb/s with a 10 Mbits connection is really bad. Like when there's a new firmware up on the servers, I'm almost crying on my sofa... no seriously, I am.I think Sony's network is just ?ber slow. You're are just really spoiled to high speeds.:DD Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/655322-why-is-the-sony-network-so-slow/page/2/#findComment-589632028 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sk3 Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 I must say that after i changed my ISP i can download at almost 1MB/s from the PSN. my previous ISP wouldn't do more than 50kb/s-100KB/s Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/655322-why-is-the-sony-network-so-slow/page/2/#findComment-589632198 Share on other sites More sharing options...
popisdead uk Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 I must say that after i changed my ISP i can download at almost 1MB/s from the PSN. my previous ISP wouldn't do more than 50kb/s-100KB/s You can't keep blaming the ISP's :laugh: It's obvious that the ISP is the problem here, regardless of what their customer service department say (lets be fair, they normally have no idea of the question at the best of times) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/655322-why-is-the-sony-network-so-slow/page/2/#findComment-589632232 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sk3 Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 You can't keep blaming the ISP's :laugh: It's obvious that the ISP is the problem here, regardless of what their customer service department say (lets be fair, they normally have no idea of the question at the best of times) Of course not. I cannot download at the same speed everytime. but what i've noticed is that after the change, i could get much more max speed than before, and i was running a 18mbps cable connection now i have a adsl 24@16mbps connection. But then again, i noticed a very big difference with http with ADSL. I can watch gametrailers HD with 2 or 3 pauses while streaming and before i would need to get almost 5 to 7 minutes to get the complete file. It's not always the ISP fault, i think it also depends from the time of the day (much more traffic on the server = less bandwidth available for each client) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/655322-why-is-the-sony-network-so-slow/page/2/#findComment-589632246 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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