Does "Muslim Massacre" game show a need for Internet regulation?

[afusion]

Why hate on people? What did they ever do to you?

People spend so much negative energy to come up with something so detestful and pour it out onto the web it's seriously disgusting.

As long as people keep dividing themselves they will never be free from the tyranny that plagues them.

[Kerm]

If you don't enjoy it, then pay no attention to it and move on with your life.

Lets not regulate the internet please.

Agreed, if you don't like it don't play it.

[Sethos]

Why hate on people? What did they ever do to you?

But they say Muslims are bad on the news :o

[afusion]

But they say Muslims are bad on the news :o

Yeah Muslims are "bad, terrorists, jihadist, killers" because they have oil and they don't want to give it away..

[mujjuman]

well if it was a muslim shooting americians i bet it would be taken down in no time. why should this be any different?

i personally think the line is drawn when you're creating something particularly with the intent of hurting someone else, and not just some fictional groups. for example, it's one thing to have command & conquer, or shooting games where your enemy could be anyone/anything but in such games you either have the choice of playing both sides or your enemy tends to be some fictional group to keep things fair.

to keep things fair if you're creating a game against muslim people and feel indifferent about it, you should have no problem if a game is created where you are a muslim person and killing everyone else on the planet (but that will probably be seen as an act of promoting terrorism - i don't know how this is any different)

it is a true fact that most recent terrorist activities have been linked to islamist extremism but that really doesn't represent the whole billion plus population of muslims themselves or their views and what this game is doing is essentially ostracizing them from the global society by particularly aiming at all muslim people only (not even just terrorists)

the right to freedom of speech/creation is one thing but there's also a sense of decency/morals/ethics which isn't a written law but something that is expected of a person living in any society.

i agree with these posts. this is a hate filled game with the intent of implying that killing muslims and hating islam is good and normal.

its very offending to know that they including "killing" Allah and Muhammad (Allah is God [the same Jewish God], cannot be killed!) and "lets kill Muhammad" is like saying "lets kill Jesus/Moses/Bhudda/the Pope"

[theyarecomingforyou]

What if it was a game simulating sex with 3yr olds? Should that be allowed? I don't have a problem with this particular game being allowed, however distasteful it may be, but many would argue a line has to be drawn somewhere. All I know is I fear the idea of censorship and am already concerned at the amount of influence big business has over the media, so I would oppose censorship unless there was a genuine threat to people's safety.

[NimrodUK]

Freedom of Speech :o

Another mirror seems they all seem to get taken down:

http://digiex.net/games-downloads/446-muslim-massacre.html

[mtrftw]

THe bottom line is: Somebody/some group will always be offended by something.

[Mike Frett]

Just played it. Thought it was pretty fun. It reminded me of an old SNES Run N' Gun game. Besides the games name; you can't really tell the people you're shooting are Muslim. Kinda like an old 16bit Rambo game.

You could change the games name to "Bad Guy Bash" and no one would know the difference.

[ncoday]

Basically if you advocate for internet censorship, it will not stop at just what offends you

Think of the idea of a slippery slope, things you like could end up being censored

[primexx]

I've downloaded the game to keep a copy of, screenshot doesn't look like it's worth playing. We should all mirror it (if the current mirror goes down) so self-righteous fascists don't stunt free speech.

oh, and in case the mirror goes down, I'll send it to anyone who requests.

[psionicinversion]

I want to try it but website is down :(

People should just mind there own f'ing business and let ppl make and play what they want unless its really stupid like object of the game is to be a world renowned paedophile, that would be wrong. Remember some news recently about a 9 year old getting an arranged marriage with a 45 year old think that was middle-eastern so maybe we should have some games that gun them down on a fun lvl, cus no one seems to have stopped that marriage from happening.

Also look at command and conquer generals, USA, china (i think) and GLA (terrorists) with the workers saying "i must work" and "i need new shoes". That wasnt banned, even though it was a blatant dig at those terrorists which are predominantly muslim.

Games like these let ppl blow off some steam cus otherwise you end up taking it to the streets. Which do ya reckon is alot worse? gunning down something on a game that you have a dislike about (i.e. muslims in the case of the game mentioned) and releasing some pent up aggression, or forming a mob going out on to the streets and beating up these ppl for real? Id prefer do it in a game.

The thing that is wrong with the world is that there are to many goody goody two shoes sitting on there high horse causing controvesy and slander, over inflating the situation via newspapers and everything. Everyone needs to sit back take a chill pill take a proper look and think hmm is it really all that bad.

You know whats bad the war in iraq/afghanistan which aint gonna end anytime soon. If you really want to stop 1 "game" stop that one.

thats my little bit. Peace

Addition: -

Just found a forum with a background of what your there to do. here it is -

The United States of America, a leader and role model for all in the modern world, is taking drastic measures to secure the freedom and safety of the world. Having born witness to the atrocities of the followers of Islam time and time again, it has been decided that the entire Muslim race shall be wiped from the surface of the Earth.

You, the American Hero, have valiantly volunteered to make landfall in the Middle East and ensure that no Muslim man or woman is left alive. Your mission priorities are to seek out and neutralize the Muslim leader Osama bin Laden, their radical cult leader Muhammad and finally Allah, taking down any targets you meet on the way.

Its taking the mick out of america similar to a Team America: World police style thing. I reckon its basically saying america goes anywhere and does what it wants and if you get in there way this is what will happen (i.e. the wiping all mulims off the face of the earth bit) its not aimed at muslims its aimed at americans.

Edited September 13, 2008 by psionicinversion

[revvo]

Internet regulation? **** that ****.

If you don't like what you're seeing, leave the website, go somewhere else but don't start being the moral panda trying to regulate bs to accomodate your beliefs.

[bobbytomorow]

Regulating the internet would be a huge mistake. Child porn is one thing as it directly hurts kids but shutting down peoples ideas/opinions simply because you do not agree with them is bad bad bad.

[James Riske]

THe bottom line is: Somebody/some group will always be offended by something.

Always.

[+Gary7 Subscriber²]

I dl'd it and it is a pretty lame game.

[James Riske]

The game sucks, it's stupid, not because you are shooting muslims though, but I don't know why they just have muslims, throw a few christians in there too, and some athiests and buddhists as well, give it a good mix so that everyone will be happy.

[+Gary7 Subscriber²]

The game sucks, it's stupid, not because you are shooting muslims though, but I don't know why they just have muslims, throw a few christians in there too, and some athiests and buddhists as well, give it a good mix so that everyone will be happy.

Yes you are so right.

[redfish]

This looks like a subversive type of game more than anything. I'd just as easily figure it being made by someone who's criticizing American attitudes towards Islam through satire, as being made by someone who agrees with them. And even if its made by someone who's a war hawk I don't think it reflects his real views of all Muslims.

Anyway I view the internet, unlike broadcast media, like a public forum, so the only things that should be taken down are things that are against the law anyway, like child porn. Some countries have hate speech laws--which I disagree with because I think laws against incitement to violence are enough--but in those countries they have the right to press charges anyway.

Edited September 13, 2008 by brianshapiro

[primexx]

I'd love to see how all of you alleged promoters of free speech justify carving out a blanket exception for child porn. If that, why not this game too?

[+Gary7 Subscriber²]

I'd love to see how all of you alleged promoters of free speech justify carving out a blanket exception for child porn. If that, why not this game too?

Child porn is illegal, being a racist is not.

[primexx]

Child porn is illegal, being a racist is not.

right, but that's a legal concept just like free speech is, and since we're discussing the rules themselves, you can hardly use it to justify itself.

if we're merely describing the current legal status, then the game may well be censored in Canada, given its abysmal track record on similar matters.

[gigapixels Veteran]

I'd love to see how all of you alleged promoters of free speech justify carving out a blanket exception for child porn. If that, why not this game too?

Because child pornography takes away the child's right to privacy. Even if the child gives consent, he/she does not truly understand the impact of such a decision (hence the fact that minors cannot enter into contracts).

Free speech != putting pictures of somebody on the internet without his/her consent.

[afusion]

Being hateful of another people makes allot of people feel uncomfortable even if they have no association with the genre(race, tradition, accent, etc) that's being offended. Even if you can say or express any kind of feeling showing it in this form imo is animalistic; a bunch of savages w. no regard to human civility and compassion.

[revvo]

I'd love to see how all of you alleged promoters of free speech justify carving out a blanket exception for child porn. If that, why not this game too?

Obviously there's limits and that's off the limit. There is no justification for something that involves taking the innocence away from a child or young teenager by an adult who is well aware of what he's doing.