Does "Muslim Massacre" game show a need for Internet regulation?

[gigapixels Veteran]

I would imagine that there are some Muslims in this world or even in this forum that would take offense about this racist game. The game itself is a waste. If you find no problem with it, place it in Neowin's software section for distribution.

But why take offense? Why should anybody be offended by some simple-minded game that was made only to cause disruption? It's pointless. They can make a game about killing Caucasians and I really wouldn't care, because it doesn't affect me in any way, shape, or form.

I don't see why people get so worked up about things that, in the end, don't affect them in any way.

[+Gary7 Subscriber²]

I think you're confusing his argument against censorship on the internet for support for the game.

There are certain things on the NET that should be censored. Games that promote racism is one, Child porn is another.

[gigapixels Veteran]

There are certain things on the NET that should be censored. Games that promote racism is one, Child porn is another.

The only things that should be censored are things that infringe upon peoples' human rights or cause harm. This game does neither.

[+Gary7 Subscriber²]

But why take offense? Why should anybody be offended by some simple-minded game that was made only to cause disruption? It's pointless. They can make a game about killing Caucasians and I really wouldn't care, because it doesn't affect me in any way, shape, or form.

I don't see why people get so worked up about things that, in the end, don't affect them in any way.

There are games out there like that but it is a tad different with what is going on in the world today. How about if the game were called The Iraqi Massacre, or The Final Solution, How many Jews can you gas in one hour? The game promotes racism. This does not affect me either but it does affect the human race, which I am part of. So I guess in the final analysis it does affect me. Look at the reaction to the Islamic Cartoons. What will happen over this stupid game. Cyber terrorism?

[gigapixels Veteran]

But it doesn't affect the human race. That's my point. It doesn't do anything to anybody else. It may **** people off, but they need to get over it and realize that it really doesn't do anything to harm them and is meaningless in the end.

[+Gary7 Subscriber²]

But it doesn't affect the human race. That's my point. It doesn't do anything to anybody else. It may **** people off, but they need to get over it and realize that it really doesn't do anything to harm them and is meaningless in the end.

Just like the Radical Muslims got over the cartoons? How many people died over that?

[primexx]

If you think that ****ing people off is enough of a reason to censor anything, you need to read a human rights document of your choice and learn that you don't have a right not to be offended.

edit: the cartoons themselves led to all that crap only because some ****tards want to play the persecution card as a excuse to further their war with the rest of the world. cowering to their demands would do none of us any good.

[gigapixels Veteran]

It's not my fault people don't share my point of view on this sort of thing, but we can't censor content on the internet for fear of repercussion. That would be in the vein of what the US has been doing to "combat terrorism" with things like the Patriot Act.

Taking away freedoms in exchange for safety is not the answer.

[bobbytomorow]

I'd love to see how all of you alleged promoters of free speech justify carving out a blanket exception for child porn. If that, why not this game too?

Theres an unwritten rule that every person knows regardless of race, religion or creed and thats that child porn is off limits. Theres a big difference between making fun of someones religion and enjoying the sexual abuse of children. Thats just common sense.

[Argi]

Just like the Radical Muslims got over the cartoons? How many people died over that?

Who's fault is that now? Surely the people who did the killing?

If you think that ****ing people off is enough of a reason to censor anything, you need to read a human rights document of your choice and learn that you don't have a right not to be offended.

You can be offended sure, but don't assume you speak for everyone. There is never a reason to censor, ever, unless you believe people are too stupid to control what they read, watch, play and need some "guidance".

[+Gary7 Subscriber²]

If you think that ****ing people off is enough of a reason to censor anything, you need to read a human rights document of your choice and learn that you don't have a right not to be offended.

edit: the cartoons themselves led to all that crap only because some ****tards want to play the persecution card as a excuse to further their war with the rest of the world. cowering to their demands would do none of us any good.

I am not offended and I wasn't by the cartoons either. But your right. Why take it so seriously. It is nothing but a game. It has to be put into perspective.

[chrisj1968]

It should be shutdown ASAP. It is racist and disgusting.

By all means keep the gamesite up. ;)

[primexx]

Theres an unwritten rule that every person knows regardless of race, religion or creed and thats that child porn is off limits. Theres a big difference between making fun of someones religion and enjoying the sexual abuse of children. Thats just common sense.

'common sense' is just another term for 'an assertion that everyone accepts prima facie without justification', aka worthless.

[CoolCatBad]

http://www.muslimmassacre.com/

Game has been taken down by the author, who writes....

"I would like to make a public apology for any offense that I might have caused through releasing this game, and to Muslims in particular. My intentions when releasing this project were to mock the foreign policy of the United States and the commonly held belief in the United States that Muslims are a hostile people to be held with suspicion. I would like to make it clear that I have never shared such a belief and my intention was to mock those who actually do believe these things.

It quickly became obvious to me that releasing this game did not achieve its intended effect and instead only caused hurt to hospitable, innocent people. I believe removing this game and website will do much more to attain my desired effect than leaving it on the internet, so I am doing just that.

I would like to ask for the forgiveness of Muslims around the world and to make it clear that I did not release this game with ill intent. So without further ado, I would like to say that I am truly apologetic for what I have done and will take full responsibility for all offense that has been caused. I can only hope that any further misgivings can be laid to rest."

[redfish]

I was more thinking along the lines of drawn or CGI child porn, which where I am is just as illegal as real child porn.

Courts have stricken down laws attempting to ban CGI child porn

[primexx]

http://www.muslimmassacre.com/

Game has been taken down by the author, who writes....

"I would like to make a public apology for any offense that I might have caused through releasing this game, and to Muslims in particular. My intentions when releasing this project were to mock the foreign policy of the United States and the commonly held belief in the United States that Muslims are a hostile people to be held with suspicion. I would like to make it clear that I have never shared such a belief and my intention was to mock those who actually do believe these things.

It quickly became obvious to me that releasing this game did not achieve its intended effect and instead only caused hurt to hospitable, innocent people. I believe removing this game and website will do much more to attain my desired effect than leaving it on the internet, so I am doing just that.

I would like to ask for the forgiveness of Muslims around the world and to make it clear that I did not release this game with ill intent. So without further ado, I would like to say that I am truly apologetic for what I have done and will take full responsibility for all offense that has been caused. I can only hope that any further misgivings can be laid to rest."

that's what anyone would say if they want to stay alive without hiring a security detail.

[afusion]

http://www.muslimmassacre.com/

Game has been taken down by the author, who writes....

"I would like to make a public apology for any offense that I might have caused through releasing this game, and to Muslims in particular. My intentions when releasing this project were to mock the foreign policy of the United States and the commonly held belief in the United States that Muslims are a hostile people to be held with suspicion. I would like to make it clear that I have never shared such a belief and my intention was to mock those who actually do believe these things.

It quickly became obvious to me that releasing this game did not achieve its intended effect and instead only caused hurt to hospitable, innocent people. I believe removing this game and website will do much more to attain my desired effect than leaving it on the internet, so I am doing just that.

I would like to ask for the forgiveness of Muslims around the world and to make it clear that I did not release this game with ill intent. So without further ado, I would like to say that I am truly apologetic for what I have done and will take full responsibility for all offense that has been caused. I can only hope that any further misgivings can be laid to rest."

To be honest I'm not sure if that was really his intent. It looks more of an excuse but at least he took appropriate measure in issuing an apology.

[ObiWanToby]

Why do people have problems with a Muslim-killing game and not the dozens of Nazi/Communist-killing games?

No one thinks that much. I say let it be...

[Eric Veteran]

I'd love to see how all of you alleged promoters of free speech justify carving out a blanket exception for child porn. If that, why not this game too?

Child porn is implicitly illegal in most any part of the world. Exploiting people is not speech.

[xinary]

Freedom of Speech is to promote your thoughts and voice your opinions in any manner you like as long as it does not voilate the rights of others.

Hate jews? Great. Keep it to yourself.

Blacks suck? Awesome. Keep it to yourself.

Gays on your nerves? Teriffic. Keep it to yourself.

This is known as hate speech as im sure you all are aware of. You can talk about anything that you like, government, politics, finance, family , but the moment you start deviating to the intent of harm (whether it be verbally or physically) you are causing a problem in society. Hate will only be responded with more hate, and this will create a negative atmosphere for everyone. This is exactly why these laws were created. Keep your hate inwards and your positives outwards and society would be a much cleaner place.

Remember, Freedom of Speech is a privledge not a blank check for you to abuse. It has its limitations and its not "full freedom of speech or no freedom of speech".

This is a complete idiotic view of free speech, you can't pick and choose where it applies. If I want to say I hate Muslims, or whatever, I can. This is not Canada, where they throw you in jail for doing such things.

[Dashel]

Anyone have a mirror? I didn't get to play. Which is really what this is about, being able to make up our own minds.

[wrack]

It should be shutdown ASAP. It is racist and disgusting.

+1

[primexx]

Anyone have a mirror? I didn't get to play. Which is really what this is about, being able to make up our own minds.

a few mirrors were posted a couple of pages back

https://www.neowin.net/forum/index.php?show...#entry589786562

[Scirwode]

Keyblade.

Jeez, how could you possibly forget the name of such an awesome weapon? :p

It's been a while since I've played Kingdom Hearts, I've got too much work to do :p !

i agree with these posts. this is a hate filled game with the intent of implying that killing muslims and hating islam is good and normal.

its very offending to know that they including "killing" Allah and Muhammad (Allah is God [the same Jewish God], cannot be killed!) and "lets kill Muhammad" is like saying "lets kill Jesus/Moses/Bhudda/the Pope"

But you must also remember that it is just a game. Yes, it is a bit disrespecting but at the end of the day, it doesn't really change the fact that it is a game, albeit a game with a very flawed analogy at Islam :p . But everyone is entitled to their opinion, just as I'm allowed to voice mine, within reason, of course.

I would imagine that there are some Muslims in this world or even in this forum that would take offense about this racist game. The game itself is a waste. If you find no problem with it, place it in Neowin's software section for distribution.

Yes, the game is a waste and no, I'm not offended. I've got better things to do than get worked up over a game that does nothing in my life :laugh: !

Scirwode

[Smigit]

I don't see the issue at all with this game. If it had a different name other than "Muslim massacre" it would have gone unnoticed in the sea of other games that let you kill any other race on earth.

Why get all wound up about taking this game off line when there are far, far worse depictions of violence all over the net, not represented by some 2d video game but rather graphic video and images and the like. To be honest, this seems to only be causing an outcry because of the overly sensitive nature people have when it comes to religious issues, particularly that of Muslims, and the fact that jumping onto the anti gaming banwagon is so easy for media to do. If they really gave a crap about censorship they would/should have said something a decade ago when sites popped up whose purpose were to depict real world deaths in the grossest possible fashion and other like minded things.

While I haven't played this, I doubt the contents much worse than many commercial games sitting on a store shelf with the difference being it's hitting at a soft spot for some in terms of which group of people this game is targeting. If people want equality and fairness and all that I fail to see how games that depict the massacre of germans or russians or whatever can be seen as fine.

Actually if you ask me, this sounds like the cartoon wars episode of South Park where the town gets all worried and upset because they were going to show an image of Mohamed on Family Guy.