Neowin & Double Standards!

[The Canadian]

Okay, I am getting really tired of the double standards on this site. When I post something that is already been posted -- however I do not know this at the time -- people start posting "Already posted" and links to the earlier post, my posting gets closed. But when I mention it like I did on the following story:

China running out of IP addresses

Which I posted about yesterday:

CNNIC: China's Internet Will Be Short Of IP Addresses Soon

And, when I mention that fact in the the story that was posted my post in that story gets deleted!

See, double standards!

[MasterC]

It helps to do a search when you post a news item. There's a chance it was already posted.

[The Canadian]

You're not reading what I said...I posted about China running out of IP addresses yesterday...there was no posting about it at all. But, when I mention that fact in the story that got posted to the front page my posting seems to be getting deleted!

[markwolfe Veteran]

It's not deleted. It is still there in the "Breaking News" section.

Or are you complaining that it is now separately posted on the Front Page?

[+Gary7 Subscriber²]

Maybe a Moderator should answer this?

[Ci7]

https://www.neowin.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=673540

it is there with zero replies @2nd page of breaking news nobody deleted it or anything

so what the problem again ??

and i doubt the news in front page have anything to do with forum news

[MasterC]

When I post something that is already been posted -- however I do not know this at the time -- people start posting "Already posted" and links to the earlier post, my posting gets closed.

It helps to do a search when you post a news item. There's a chance it was already posted.

You're not reading what I said...I posted about China running out of IP addresses yesterday...there was no posting about it at all. But, when I mention that fact in the story that got posted to the front page my posting seems to be getting deleted!

Seems to me like I read what you said just fine. You said your postings are closed because you post a duplicate article.

[markwolfe Veteran]

I don't think staff explanation is needed.

The Canadian needs to say what the problem is. His claim that his post/thread was removed is not true. What is to explain?

The fact that what he posted in Back Page News has been separately posted on the Front Page? It happens all the time. Or is there whining involved because he wasn't given credit? I doubt it, as it is no big deal, and has happened to me.

If The Canadian wants credited articles on the Front Page, Neowin provides a "submit to newsdesk" link to submit your news article to the team for consideration to be posted on the Front Page.

In short: No double standard. Nothing to explain.

[Horrocks Veteran]

The fact that what he posted in Back Page News has been separately posted on the Front Page? It happens all the time.

Neowin provides a "submit to newsdesk" link to submit your news article to the team for consideration to be posted on the Front Page.

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[HawkMan]

I don't think staff explanation is needed.

The Canadian needs to say what the problem is. His claim that his post/thread was removed is not true. What is to explain?

The fact that what he posted in Back Page News has been separately posted on the Front Page? It happens all the time. Or is there whining involved because he wasn't given credit? I doubt it, as it is no big deal, and has happened to me.

If The Canadian wants credited articles on the Front Page, Neowin provides a "submit to newsdesk" link to submit your news article to the team for consideration to be posted on the Front Page.

In short: No double standard. Nothing to explain.

He didn't complain that his thread was deleted.

he complained that his post in the duplicate thread made by someone else, where he said it was a duplicate was deleted.

that's what I got from reading the OP anyway.

[markwolfe Veteran]

He didn't complain that his thread was deleted.

he complained that his post in the duplicate thread made by someone else, where he said it was a duplicate was deleted.

that's what I got from reading the OP anyway.

Ahhh... It seems he is complaining about the Front Page News item, quite likely IN the FPN article comments. And it may be these complaint comments he posted in FPN that have been deleted.

I don't think he has been around Neowin enough to know yet that FPN is a separate section from BPN (which is, essentially, the forums).

Not a problem.

Complaining about the separation being there, and posting complaints in FPN is not the solution. Nor is accusing staff of "double standards" or other nefarious intent, when this is just merely how the site is organized.

[Farstrider]

The owner of this site wants to see if we can hit 8 000 000 posts by a certain time, (I am not sure when that is supposed to be!) Some people are making up to 1000 posts in less than two weeks, in other words pure spam! Add up all the ?lols? and ?FTW's? and the like and you get a whole lot of nothing! Why, I would like to know is it always such a big bloody deal when duplicate or similar posts are made? It is, in my humble opinion, not much different to the pure drivel that gets spewed out by some people on this site! Can these posts/threads not just be merged! Some posts are, and it seems to depend on the timing of the particular posts and also who the person is that makes the post? The other side of the coin is that there are many (Thousands) people on this site and that only the real spammers, who do not have a life else ware, are the ones who seem to see most of the new posts! The average person who comes here after a real day?s work, may sometimes miss the "story" and because the description may be different you do not find what you are looking for before you post what you think is perhaps a unique story! You then get attacked on all sides by the rightness indignation of those that appear to have one goal in life, ?let?s find out who the idiots are, that post things that have been posted before?. Also please anyone show me what subject has not been covered on this forum! Eventually you would have to close EVERY thread because it has been posted in some form or another!

[houlty]

-snip-

that much block text makes my eyes hurt. paragraphs please...

[markwolfe Veteran]

Duplicate threads are bad in that if 4 people posted the 63% of pop-up threads, which one would you hold a conversation in?

I am sorry that you don't see why multiple threads on the same topic are bad. I am sorry also that you don't like the "FTW" spammers (I don't either).

But complaining about it isn't going to change the situation, nor your (or my) perception of things.

[PL_ Veteran]

Farstrider, it's for the sake of keeping the forums clean. As markjensen said, we can't have two discussions on the same things, it's pointless and it makes moderation a nightmare. As for the end of your post, I'm a bit confused. We don't close threads on absolutely everything that is slightly related to another thread. We merge threads when it makes sense - if a second conversation has developed, might as well, but if nothing is happening in the other one, what's the point? We'd just end up with a thread with several posts with the same news story and not much actual conversation.

If you're getting attacked "left right and center", then report it. We don't accept behaviour like that. On the other hand, you do have to accept that yes, we close duplicate threads, and yes, you may have missed the other thread. Nobody is punishing you. You had a hard day and missed the other thread, okay, you're not going to get banned for one little duplicate thread.

And then there's the spam issue. Right now it's confined to one thread, and it's a bit of a joke anyway.

As for the original poster, we have the Submit to Newsdesk for submitting to the Front Pages. Front Page News =! Breaking News, sometimes stories will get repeated on the Front Page and if you didn't Submit to Newsdesk then yes, you won't get credit because you didn't post it on the front page. If you'd like to take a look at Rule 7, you'll see that we get so many posts like those that we need a rule specifically to stop so many of them.

[Rappy Veteran]

Yeah the 8m post has turned into a spamfest I agree with that but really the mods have come in multiple times cleared up the crap and let us continue to joke around its really as Purelegend said a thread to have a bit of fun with once the targets met and its October 1st its confined to the library of memories.

[+Nik Louch Subscriber²]

Okay, I am getting really tired of the double standards on this site.

Fine leave.

[TEX4S]

Its because youre Canadian.... ;)

[Minimoose]

-snip-

People are more likely to read if you post in a formatted way, rather than a large block.

Also the 8 million thread is the only place with spam, it has not spread out into other sections that I know of, so just don't go there if you don't want to see the spam.

[Farstrider]

People are more likely to read if you post in a formatted way, rather than a large block.

Also the 8 million thread is the only place with spam, it has not spread out into other sections that I know of, so just don't go there if you don't want to see the spam.

To you and the other person who bitched about the paragraph, or the lack thereof! I have to tell you that I find your comment(s) rather funny! Who are you, the paragraph police? The rest managed to read it and also to pass comment on the contents in the "block" so if you need me to send you a copy in a line for line format, I will gladly do so!

[Joel]

The owner of this site wants to see if we can hit 8 000 000 posts by a certain time, (I am not sure when that is supposed to be!) Some people are making up to 1000 posts in less than two weeks, in other words pure spam! Add up all the ?lols? and ?FTW's? and the like and you get a whole lot of nothing! Why, I would like to know is it always such a big bloody deal when duplicate or similar posts are made? It is, in my humble opinion, not much different to the pure drivel that gets spewed out by some people on this site! Can these posts/threads not just be merged! Some posts are, and it seems to depend on the timing of the particular posts and also who the person is that makes the post? The other side of the coin is that there are many (Thousands) people on this site and that only the real spammers, who do not have a life else ware, are the ones who seem to see most of the new posts! The average person who comes here after a real day?s work, may sometimes miss the "story" and because the description may be different you do not find what you are looking for before you post what you think is perhaps a unique story! You then get attacked on all sides by the rightness indignation of those that appear to have one goal in life, ?let?s find out who the idiots are, that post things that have been posted before?. Also please anyone show me what subject has not been covered on this forum! Eventually you would have to close EVERY thread because it has been posted in some form or another!

Don't see how any of that mess you posted has anything to do with the OP.

[jwjw1]

Its because youre Canadian.... ;)

lol

[vincent]

I don't think staff explanation is needed.

The Canadian needs to say what the problem is. His claim that his post/thread was removed is not true. What is to explain?

The fact that what he posted in Back Page News has been separately posted on the Front Page? It happens all the time. Or is there whining involved because he wasn't given credit? I doubt it, as it is no big deal, and has happened to me.

If The Canadian wants credited articles on the Front Page, Neowin provides a "submit to newsdesk" link to submit your news article to the team for consideration to be posted on the Front Page.

In short: No double standard. Nothing to explain.

Just be a moderator again Mark, we need you :D

[Fred Derf Veteran]

Just be a moderator again Mark, we need you :D

Think of the children, Mark.

The children.

[Andrew Lyle Global Moderator]

Its because youre Canadian.... ;)

and IT'S because your American :D