Win7 features revealed: customizable UAC and integrated Accelerators

[jamesVault]

Accelerators are now integrated in Windows (not just only in IE8 browser):

UAC is now customizable with 4 different security levels:

More screenshots are available here:

http://winfuture.de/screenshots/Windows-7-...780-3500-4.html

[Budious]

It looks very 'Window-ish' ... like Office 2007 theme gone overboard and split across the entire desktop. Like Vista, expect half of these features not to make it to the final product, and the other half to be dumbed downed. Giving users the power to disable UAC, what's the point? Aren't you suppose to be protecting those who are already too stupid to protect themselves?

[what]

The new UAC should be made as an update for Vista...

[Prince Charming]

Looking good.

[jamesVault]

The new UAC should be made as an update for Vista...

yes, the new UAC will be part of Vista SP2, for sure!

Anyway I will keep the UAC to the max security level, so I don't really need this update.

Edited September 28, 2008 by jamesVault

[ashraf882]

Thanks for the web link.....

[Olemus]

Giving users the power to disable UAC, what's the point? Aren't you suppose to be protecting those who are already too stupid to protect themselves?

I have to agree with this, this is going to make UAC basically obsolete because of the basic end user idiots who will switch it off due to it being "annoying"

[smooth_criminal1990]

ok, we have accelerators in windows and IE 8... I just hope they get round to putting tabs into windows, as in IE 8.

[HawkMan]

I have to agree with this, this is going to make UAC basically obsolete because of the basic end user idiots who will switch it off due to it being "annoying"

They're not allowing you to turn it off, they'r allowing you to set it to silent mode without tweakUAC

[Belazor]

I have to agree with this, this is going to make UAC basically obsolete because of the basic end user idiots who will switch it off due to it being "annoying"

And this is different from what happens right now how, exactly?

Ignorant users turn it off in Vista, and they will set it to silent mode in Win7. I see no difference.

[HawkMan]

It looks very 'Window-ish' ... like Office 2007 theme gone overboard and split across the entire desktop. Like Vista, expect half of these features not to make it to the final product, and the other half to be dumbed downed. Giving users the power to disable UAC, what's the point? Aren't you suppose to be protecting those who are already too stupid to protect themselves?

you need to not compare this to Vista. Vista was a whole reimiagnining of how many key components work, it was a rewrite of many core components and it had a lot of untested prototype technology in it durign the alpha and beta stages, and a lot of this was dropped because it made no sense or served no purpose.

7 is a regular windows update, some new features, updates to the ones that are there, some fixes here and there. bu they're not pushing in all the next gen protoypes then can to see what they can do. Now they're just building on the base the made with Vista.

[Berserk87]

ive been follow win7 news, but may have missed some stuff.

any word, or hints at Win FS?

[HawkMan]

ive been follow win7 news, but may have missed some stuff.

any word, or hints at Win FS?

yeah, it's dead and buried, the whole team was disabnded and the tech from it used in other projects in vista.

[Berserk87]

yeah, it's dead and buried, the whole team was disabnded and the tech from it used in other projects in vista.

so....NTFS for another 10 years?

or is there a chance they've been working on a new File system that hasnt been announced yet?

[Smethead]

Those accelerators look to be a good feature. I hope it won't be thrown away.

[HawkMan]

so....NTFS for another 10 years?

or is there a chance they've been working on a new File system that hasnt been announced yet?

There's nothing wrong with NTFS, but NTFS now isn't quite the same NTFS as back in NT.

and WinFS was not a filesystem, it was not a replacement for NTFS

[FiB3R]

wtf are accelerators?

[Berserk87]

There's nothing wrong with NTFS, but NTFS now isn't quite the same NTFS as back in NT.

and WinFS was not a filesystem, it was not a replacement for NTFS

i know, it was supposed to be a 'addon' kinda thing. to improve ntfs.

edit: just noticed the full thread about win 7 and WinFS :p

[mad_onion]

pfft accelerators in windows i can't imagine using that. i don't in ie anyway...

the UAC improvements look promising. the fact that users could turn off UC in vista was one of microsoft's biggest mistakes imo. only being able to put it in silent mode is much better.

what i don't get is how notifying without waiting for a response is useful at all. there's no point telling the user that a program has been elevated.

[darkz]

that accelerator thing would be a lot better if it worked like ubiquity

[Julius Caro]

i bet my 2 cents that those dialogs will still look like that in the final stages of win7

[soumyasch]

so....NTFS for another 10 years?

or is there a chance they've been working on a new File system that hasnt been announced yet?

Whata wrong with NTFS? What is it that you cannot do in NTFS today for which you will need a brand new filesystem for? True NTFS gets fragmented and is somewhat slow when accessing a number of small files but is it really so inconvenient that you are willing to put up with the issues of migrating to a different filesystem?

And why would you want to use WinFS for? Its not like just turning WinFS on will make all applications WinFS aware. Apart from adapting apps to take advantage of WinFS, tons of importers (I believe the components that would convert a regular file into WinFS items when they were copied into WinFS stores and the other way round when copied out were called importers) need to be written.

Its not like we cannot do WinFS-stuff like without WinFS. If it is just querying, Windows Search is more often than not enough. That and IFilter can aggregate data from various file types. If the app needs relational database capabilities, there are a lot of embedded/in-proc database systems out today. And schenatized XML can be used to shared schematized data between different applications. True, WinFS would have standardized a pretty broad set of the schemas and make them available to all WinFS-aware applications, but the world doesn't fall apart in its absense.

And a lot of WinFS bits are already available today ( http://perspectives.on10.net/blogs/jonudel...e-is-WinFS-now/ ). Its object/relational mapping system is ADO.NET Entity Framework in .NET Framework 3.5 SP1. Lot of the storage-related stuff like support for semi-structured, hierarchical data and data-stored-in-files-but-managed-by-sql-server is in SQL Server 2008 (including Express editions). That makes up most of WinFS' capabilities, with one notable exception of doing all this from Win32 apps themselves - a gap that will be filled by the next release of SQL Server:

In the next release we anticipate putting those two things together, the filesystem piece and the hierarchical ID piece, into a supported namespace. So you'll be able to type //machinename/sharename, up pops an Explorer window, drag and drop a file into it, go back to the database, type SELECT *, and suddenly a record appears.

The other thing that WinFS could do - syncing - is already out there with Microsoft Sync Framework and Live Mesk SDK is soon to be out as well.

[thealexweb]

I dought they'll bother bringing this to vista

[HawkMan]

i bet my 2 cents that those dialogs will still look like that in the final stages of win7

any reasons why they should'nt ?

[Berserk87]

Whata wrong with NTFS? [etc.]

nothing wrong with NTFS, but you dont think they could make it more optimized?