need keyboard with on board mouse?

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hey, I am really picky with my mouse so I won't even ask that here... but I would like a keyboard that has back lighting and some sort of a mouse cursor on it. you know how older laptops have the little green thing right in the middle of the keyboard... i need something like that. a standard laptop mouse pad also works. as long as it's part of the keyboard....

as far as touch and feel goes, I am looking for something that's like apple's slim keyboards. i use one right now, and it's soo smooth I don't really have to press the keys, it just kinda types for me.

I know I can google it myself and i have been. newegg doesn't seem to have anything i like. not sure if these keyboards have a special name...

any help would be good

thanks,

RK

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I'm in the market for something exactly like what you described, and sadly i been let down by what i have found. The closest thing i've found so far is this Moneual Lab Wireless keyboard is not the greatest but is pretty thin, small, and has the mouse ball on the side. It would be nice if Logitech would come out with something similar to their edge keyboard but with a mouse integreated, thin and most of all pretty cheap, which will probably never happen.

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the diNOVO one looks really cool but no back lightt... as for the moneual lab keyboard I really don't want to move my hand that far to work the mouse.... it's not a matter of laziness it's efficiency...

actually, if you hold that monuel keyboard by its sides, your left thumb will work the mouse buttons on the upper left corner , notice how it has the mouse picture there and the words 'left' and 'right', while your right thumb will work the trackball... at least thats what it looks like to me, its more for sitting on the couch casually scrolling away at webpages, rather than for working hard on documents i think... anyhoo, its alot more efficient as you put it, than moving your hand off the keyboard altogether

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i think it has backlight...

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the diNOVO one looks really cool but no back lightt... as for the moneual lab keyboard I really don't want to move my hand that far to work the mouse.... it's not a matter of laziness it's efficiency...

I take your point, but surely you're losing efficiency in the type of mouse you're using?

Touchpads and Trackpoints take a heck of a lot more effort than a mouse. When it came up in my degree course when discussing UI's we were told to factor in 1.5 seconds for each time the hands move from keyboard to mouse, even if they're on the same device, you're losing time moving, and then losing time in actual utilisation.

Just my 2 cents.

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the microsoft one looks great. will need to do a little more research on it before i buy it... as for the mini keyboard that you guys are offering, i need it to be full sized because i will be doing all my work with it and would like a full sized keyboard rather than a hand held like one.

right now with my laptop I can work the mouse with my thumbs so my main typeing fingers stay on the keys while my trained thumb works the pad and clicks on whatever i need to so i can keep typeing. it's very efficient and i really like it. so that's more of what i am looking for with the keyboard....

if i have to move my hand to the upper side of the keyboard and navigate, then i rather just use the mouse.

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this thumb mousing idea of yours sounds awfully specific... i dont think that anyone actually makes stuff to be used like this, like it sounds like a good idea, using your thumbs for more than the spacebar, and the trackpad is right under the spacebar too, but for me anyway the range of motion of my thumbs at the 'spacebar' position is too restrictive to work the trackpad meaningfully... maybe one day they might come out with a trackball/keyboard combination? like since there are already trackballs which use your thumb to roll the ball, it cant be that far off from having the ball right below the spacebar

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yeah you have to have big hands and a small laptop to do it... but it's pretty comfortable and with training you can get pretty good at it. i don't see why they haven't come up with a keyboard that looks just like your laptop keyboard with the mouse pad under the spacebar. you don't need two thumbs to work one spacebar. so you can use the other one doing something else....

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http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/gaming/p...16&cl=us,en

i have never actually seen this one before, looks really cool, does it only work for the PS3? Also the diNOVO mini, i considered that one as well, bu just like the original poster said a full blown keyboard would be better, and besides for the price of the mini, i don't think is worth it.

As for the MS one, same thing with that one, have you seen the price for that thing?

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http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/gaming/p...16&cl=us,en

i have never actually seen this one before, looks really cool, does it only work for the PS3? Also the diNOVO mini, i considered that one as well, bu just like the original poster said a full blown keyboard would be better, and besides for the price of the mini, i don't think is worth it.

As for the MS one, same thing with that one, have you seen the price for that thing?

already posted that one

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