Creative Suite 4 - Terrible!

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I was so excited for creative suite 4, especially for adobe photoshop 64bit and GPU accelaration. I tried the trial and photoshop was performing horribly it had horrible redraw issues when all i was doing was moving some text left and right. I compiled an app with Flash CS4 had a plethora of problems where it had been fine with CS3.

I am disappointed that adobe have released unfinished software. I was wondering if anyone else had tried CS4 yet?

[Andrew Lyle Global Moderator]

I've heard nothing but good things about CS4...

really? I haven't heard a lot of good so far. I can't get it installed, it keeps asking for the cd when it is in the drive....

[scaramonga]

really? I haven't heard a lot of good so far. I can't get it installed, it keeps asking for the cd when it is in the drive....

Extract CD to hard drive and install from there, common problem I believe, was the same with CS3. :)

[Kami-]

Extract CD to hard drive and install from there, common problem I believe, was the same with CS3. :)

Or a USB stick, if you don't fancy having the set-up files on your harddisk.

[Prince Charming]

Anyone know if the bloated spyware service 'bonjour' is still installed with the CS4 range of products, and if so, is it easily removed as in CS3? :)

Bonjour is neither spyware or 'bloat'.

[crazzyyfool]

Anyone know if the bloated spyware service 'bonjour' is still installed with the CS4 range of products, and if so, is it easily removed as in CS3? :)

Just how is the Bonjour service bloated spyware?

Is everyone thats testing CS4 here on Windows?

[Lasker]

How adobe does not have yet a trial version, if the official CS4 has been released? :huh:

[Titanium_NX]

Heres my two cents.

Design is unique. I like the idea of switching modes.

Performance wise, not to happy. I have a good computer and when working with images of high resolution it feels very sluggish. CS3 was very smooth. GPU rendering seem not to work.

I find it buggy, I hope it gets a lot better.

[scaramonga]

Bonjour is neither spyware or 'bloat'.

You must allow Bonjour access to the internet through your firewall. Bonjour checks to see whether the DNS server configured on your computer supports service discovery. No data is transmitted to Adobe. (so they say) Bonjour connects to no other servers than your machine's pre-configured DNS server. (so they say) Bonjour also sends network packets to and receives them from a multicast IP address on the local network (244.0.0.251) once every thirty minutes. This address is reserved for multicast traffic on a local network and such network packets never leave the local network. (so they say)

I prefer it removed :)

[giga Veteran]

You must allow Bonjour access to the internet through your firewall. Bonjour checks to see whether the DNS server configured on your computer supports service discovery. No data is transmitted to Adobe. (so they say) Bonjour connects to no other servers than your machine's pre-configured DNS server. (so they say) Bonjour also sends network packets to and receives them from a multicast IP address on the local network (244.0.0.251) once every thirty minutes. This address is reserved for multicast traffic on a local network and such network packets never leave the local network. (so they say)

I prefer it removed :)

I can play devil's advocate with anything--there's really no point if you take that perspective. Bonjour is default on all Apple and most Linux distros (zeroconf). Adobe uses it for their Version Cue software so it can connect to the server over a local network automatically.

Sure you can remove it if you want, but it's not like it's eating all your cpu cycles. Purely paranoia.

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Anybody know how to remove this stupid Adobe Cs4 Drive context entry ( even though I chose not to install it)?

[Ambroos]

Bonjour does spy your network

Isn't it spyware then? It's Apple's, so bloatware it is for sure...

[jokeripa]

Anybody know how to remove this stupid Adobe Cs4 Drive context entry ( even though I chose not to install it)?

Yeah, I'd like to know aswell.

For anyone that downloaded the Master Collection from Adobe.com - Have you managed to get Premiere or After Effects installed? I didn't take much notice at the installation but then when I realised the apps were missing I ran the setup.exe again, which allowed me to select applications to uninstall but wouldn't let me check the ones that weren't installed. I checked through the content of the subfolders that got extracted and the After Effects MSI is definately there but when I try to run it it complains that it can only be installed through the Setup Wizard. Anyone manage to install them succesfully?

[giga Veteran]

Bonjour does spy your network

Isn't it spyware then? It's Apple's, so bloatware it is for sure...

Unfounded claims are worthless.

Hey look, Bonjour is using an entire megabyte! God forbid such heresy.

[kyller]

wtf CS4 looks alien on Vista and XP... couldn't adobe make a software that integrates smoothly? looks like CS4 was designed to Mac only...

[scaramonga]

Unfounded claims are worthless.

Hey look, Bonjour is using an entire megabyte! God forbid such heresy.

A megabyte more than I'm using ;) but memory usage is not the issue. The fact that's its running, without my permission to do so, and what it's 'actually' doing is another.

:)

[giga Veteran]

A megabyte more than I'm using ;) but memory usage is not the issue. The fact that's its running, without my permission to do so, and what it's 'actually' doing is another.

:)

You granted it permission to run after you hit install. And it's already been explained countless times what it's "actually" doing, but of course conspiracy theorists are the worst of our kind.

[Soldiers33]

Well , seems fine for me .. not so exited about the new GPU enhancements (especially 'birdeye' zoom) but seems a good addition until now .. Intel PentiumD 805+3GbRam & works great .

For curious ..

i know this is off topic. but what wallpaper is that?

[+Frank B. Subscriber²]

i know this is off topic. but what wallpaper is that?

This one.

[TruckWEB]

Performance wise, not to happy. I have a good computer and when working with images of high resolution it feels very sluggish. CS3 was very smooth. GPU rendering seem not to work.

GPU rendering in CS4 is only for nVidia CUDA no?? You have an ATI card... Or maybe I'm wrong.

[The_Decryptor Veteran]

You must allow Bonjour access to the internet through your firewall. Bonjour checks to see whether the DNS server configured on your computer supports service discovery.

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It doesn't do this at all, Bonjour never goes outside your local lan unless you configure it to (With 3rd party utilities)

Edit: As a general bit of advice that I like to follow, if you're going to talk about an app, it's probably a good idea to know what it does and how it does it first.

[scaramonga]

It doesn't do this at all, Bonjour never goes outside your local lan unless you configure it to (With 3rd party utilities)

Edit: As a general bit of advice that I like to follow, if you're going to talk about an app, it's probably a good idea to know what it does and how it does it first.

LOL!

Managed to remove it and all OK :), seems that other piece of bloatware, iTunes, installs this crap also.

One happy bunny :D

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[Andrew Lyle Global Moderator]

I'm starting to like PS CS4. It's a little bit different from CS3, but so was CS3 from CS2.

Hopefully I can still turn out some cool things

[digitalsoft]

I've finally had the chance to try photoshop CS4 out while working... really love the new version! little things such as the pixel zoom is much nicer, the window alignments... and im sure its actually faster.

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Running like a charm here on an ATI 1900XTX.

Besides, if you have problems, turn the feature off in the preferences.

Loving it so far, especially how it handles multiple open documents. Only issue is you cant drag one layer onto the tab in order to bring it to another document. You have to have both documents open on the screen side by side to do it. Not the end of the world but annoying none the less.