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CentralDogma

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Umm, are FMA (original series) and FMA : Brotherhood related ? Can I just watch the new series or should I watch the original to understand what's going on ?

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You can watch Brotherhood without watching the old series. The first half of the original series and up to about episode 15 of Brotherhood are the same material, so watching both would be redundant.

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You can watch Brotherhood without watching the old series. The first half of the original series and up to about episode 15 of Brotherhood are the same material, so watching both would be redundant.

Also the Brotherhood series follows the manga a lot more closely. While the original series does to a certain point and then it creates it's own story.

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so i finished watching NGE and i have no effin clue what is going on past episode 24.

in episode 24.... shinji kills the guy, who apparently is an 'angel', then shinji crys about it a bunch, then i have no *(#@&$@$_@($ing clue what is going on after that.

something about how he imagined it all...or it was just a different world that he was picturing himself in or some BS...

im sitting here going "o good, shinji finally did something, two more episodes for the to explain what the **** has been going on"

THEN an hour of shinji being a giant tool and having more flash backs and garbage, and nothing gets explained.

whats so great about NGE?!?!

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You are doing it wrong ....

First of all, you are not supposed to watch the two final episodes. They are not relevant to the story, I think the producers ran out of money to make a true conclusion - I forgot.

If you haven't watched the director's cut of NGE, then I recommend watching Evangelion: Death and Rebirth (the death part only, as Rebirth is just an intro to EOE) - it explains more. Otherwise, watch EOE,

Next up, you need to watch the two real last episodes: Ep. 25: "Air" and Ep. 26: "My Purest Heart for You". The two last episodes conclude the series respectfully. They are available as the movie, End of Evangelion. Which is indeed a mind-trip - but completely coherent with the story of the first 24 episodes ... Happy Third Impact! :D

OR,

You can just watch the new Rebuild of Evangalion (which is much better and explains things much better) but it is in works for now.

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CentralDogma

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so i finished watching NGE and i have no effin clue what is going on past episode 24.

in episode 24.... shinji kills the guy, who apparently is an 'angel', then shinji crys about it a bunch, then i have no *(#@&$@$_@($ing clue what is going on after that.

something about how he imagined it all...or it was just a different world that he was picturing himself in or some BS...

im sitting here going "o good, shinji finally did something, two more episodes for the to explain what the **** has been going on"

THEN an hour of shinji being a giant tool and having more flash backs and garbage, and nothing gets explained.

whats so great about NGE?!?!

post-114394-1251621389.jpg

I'll give you the same reply i gave someone earlier in this thread on the subject of Evangelion:

Evangelion is as much a mech anime as Moby-Dick is a book about fishing. It had mechas in it, yes, but it was certainly not a series about them. Just look at the last 2 episodes if you have any doubt.

Just looking at it as a mech alone, it's absolutely awful. 17 battles in the entire series, most without any real action. Most of the sci-fi mysteries and questions were left unanswered in favor of a finale that revolved exclusively around the psychological state of the main characters. As a result, the plot is left unfinished in regard to the mech/sci-fi side of Evangelion.

That?s not to say that it?s a bad story (psych student?s probably go wild over it). Personally, it left a bad taste in my mouth.

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CentralDogma

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Am I like the only one who seen the movie around here? :o

End of Evangelion? I saw it. It wasn't the intended end by the director (Anno). It's pretty well accepted that it was created as response to the negative impact of the last episodes. As one of the English voice actor's stated, he gave the fans what they wanted but in the worst way possible (most of the main characters are killed in the worst way possible).

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Udedenkz

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End of Evangelion? I saw it. It wasn't the intended end by the director (Anno). It's pretty well accepted that it was created as response to the negative impact of the last episodes. As one of the English voice actor's stated, he gave the fans what they wanted but in the worst way possible (most of the main characters are killed in the worst way possible).

The original ending seems like the slap in the face to me and not the End of Evangelion. I mean the original ending explains nothing and serves no purpose in the continuation of the story line, while EOE seems like a conclusion to me. And it is a very well done conclusion at that - the scene of the materialization of Lilith is one of the most elegant scenes I have seen in a movie.

I mean the ending of the official series seems the same as the ending of Gantz anime or Claymore Anime - incomplete - unworthy of an ending - disappointing.

I also love how western religious elements were integrated in the movie - for example Lilith is the first wife of Adam.

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CentralDogma

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The original ending seems like the slap in the face to me and not the End of Evangelion. I mean the original ending explains nothing and serves no purpose in the continuation of the story line, while EOE seems like a conclusion to me. And it is a very well done conclusion at that - the scene of the materialization of Lilith is one of the most elegant scenes I have seen in a movie.

I mean the ending of the official series seems the same as the ending of Gantz anime or Claymore Anime - incomplete - unworthy of an ending - disappointing.

I also love how western religious elements were integrated in the movie - for example Lilith is the first wife of Adam.

That?s what I?m saying in my quote though. The series isn?t about aliens or mechs, it?s about the psychological state of the main characters, and the original ending satisfies that. If you don?t like the last two episodes, you really didn?t like the anime.

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Udedenkz

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That’s what I’m saying in my quote though. The series isn’t about aliens or mechs, it’s about the psychological state of the main characters, and the original ending satisfies that. If you don’t like the last two episodes, you really didn’t like the anime.

http://www.evaotaku.com/html/rcb-production.html

Episode 25' "Air" is based on the original episode 25 script which was completed during production of the TV series. Due to production time limits and other problems, this script was not used and the TV episode 25 "Owaru sekai (The Ending World)" instead became a drama which unfolded within an inner universe like episode 26. In this sense, episode 25' could be considered a return to the originally intended contents. In contrast, episode 26' adds much more story and dramatic content to TV episode 26, thus deepening the theme.

/argument

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I just finished NGE, as Berserk87 said after 24 every episode is like WTF. In one of the episode I seriously thought that misato & shinji are going to do it (Sorry I know I have dirty mind :laugh: ).

Something involving tentacles is the norm.

/s

If you want a surprise conclusion, an anime series should end without fan service or some sort of lame, extreme twist ala Code Geass.

By the way, I'll again point out that people who have finished NGE and did not like it should run off to RahXephon and watch it nao!

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trag3dy

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Something involving tentacles is the norm.

/s

If you want a surprise conclusion, an anime series should end without fan service or some sort of lame, extreme twist ala Code Geass.

By the way, I'll again point out that people who have finished NGE and did not like it should run off to RahXephon and watch it nao!

I watched RahXephon quite a while ago. I think it's about time to give it a rewatch.

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What do you mean with "lacks that Gundam 00"? Do you mean the mobile suit or storyline-wise? :p

oops... I intended to say it lack the appeal of Gundam 00 :rolleyes: and i mean the storyline.I feel 00 was much more captivating from the beginning itself. Then again now that I've watched 15 episodes its becoming more interesting :laugh:

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Udedenkz

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I have seen RahXephon on SciFi or G4 - one of those two - but I never liked it. I think it gave a more of a generic mecha impression or something... :|

So I should Try to find the redone episode 25 and 26? Of NGE.

You mean to say "rent the movie," right?

That depends whether you want two episodes of philosophy || or || two episodes of action, violence, end of the world, philosophy, disturbing scenery, and significant plot progression?

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@rustix: It has to do with the type of story they're trying to create. If you look at Gundam SEED and Mobile Suit Gundam, you'll see a resemblance. Same counts for Gundam 00 and Gundam Wing. Mobile Suit Gundam is about a kid who goes inside a Gundam to protect his friends and family, Kira did the same. Gundam Wing starts with unknown mobile suits scattered on earth trying to prevent a war, same happened in Gundam 00. Both Gundam Wing and Gundam 00 are more politically aimed as well, if you understand what I mean. Both series where very serious about the story from the beginning. Mobile Suit Gundam and Gundam SEED both are building up the story where the viewer slowly gets into it.

@The ones who are talking about NGE: The 4th rebuild movie will be a complete new story for the series. Meaning that the rebuild series will have a different ending :)

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@rustix: It has to do with the type of story they're trying to create. If you look at Gundam SEED and Mobile Suit Gundam, you'll see a resemblance. Same counts for Gundam 00 and Gundam Wing. Mobile Suit Gundam is about a kid who goes inside a Gundam to protect his friends and family, Kira did the same. Gundam Wing starts with unknown mobile suits scattered on earth trying to prevent a war, same happened in Gundam 00. Both Gundam Wing and Gundam 00 are more politically aimed as well, if you understand what I mean. Both series where very serious about the story from the beginning. Mobile Suit Gundam and Gundam SEED both are building up the story where the viewer slowly gets into it.

Oh ok. I think I see what you mean. I guess I should check out Mobile Suit Gundam and Gundam Wing as well :cool:

By the way dude, where do you get your sig and avatar from?

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