franzon Posted November 27, 2008 Share Posted November 27, 2008 reboot servers that are in a production environment? without a patch your production environment may be destroyed by an exploit! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/702654-widespread-malware-attacks-target-windows-7-vista-sp1-and-xp-sp3-vuln/page/2/#findComment-590192554 Share on other sites More sharing options...
profets Posted November 27, 2008 Share Posted November 27, 2008 without a patch your production environment may be destroyed by an exploit! haha of course they will.. cause like most system admins we keep open internet access to all production servers Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/702654-widespread-malware-attacks-target-windows-7-vista-sp1-and-xp-sp3-vuln/page/2/#findComment-590192574 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hagjohn Posted November 27, 2008 Share Posted November 27, 2008 very often, the exploits come out within few hours after the patch is released on Windows Update... oh yeah let your mission critical machine to be exploited because it's mission critical... while your administrator is still testing the patches (which are already tested by Microsoft) you're pwned! there have been multiple occasions where testing was garbage (hasn't happened lately) and updates have crashed servers. It's always better to have a system you can test on to be sure if your mission critical. Home users should always have updates on. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/702654-widespread-malware-attacks-target-windows-7-vista-sp1-and-xp-sp3-vuln/page/2/#findComment-590192580 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ci7 Posted November 27, 2008 Author Share Posted November 27, 2008 funny update not only break servers side .... the client side too from two week ago on of the computer in my house goes into installing update loop , luckly i got earlier point and revert back ... problem solved now imagine something like that happen for a server , it would be a waste of time and money for enterprises Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/702654-widespread-malware-attacks-target-windows-7-vista-sp1-and-xp-sp3-vuln/page/2/#findComment-590192690 Share on other sites More sharing options...
scrtsqurrl Posted November 27, 2008 Share Posted November 27, 2008 Why do people invest so much money in Windows Servers when they are so full of security holes then? Go with Novell's SLES or RHES? On the desktop PC side of the fence, why are people turning off WU's? Do they really think Microsoft is stealing their bits? :p Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/702654-widespread-malware-attacks-target-windows-7-vista-sp1-and-xp-sp3-vuln/page/2/#findComment-590193036 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hum Posted November 27, 2008 Share Posted November 27, 2008 I thought Ballmer said that Vista was secure without Antivirus / more secure by design. More secure than what?!Seems as leaky as Windows XP and all the previous versions. And just what were you expecting ? :laugh: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/702654-widespread-malware-attacks-target-windows-7-vista-sp1-and-xp-sp3-vuln/page/2/#findComment-590193072 Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeblogg Posted November 27, 2008 Share Posted November 27, 2008 No excuse but laziness, it was patched more than a month ago.regardless of OS, clueless people need to leave the auto-updater on. +4 Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/702654-widespread-malware-attacks-target-windows-7-vista-sp1-and-xp-sp3-vuln/page/2/#findComment-590193098 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Live Veteran Posted November 27, 2008 Veteran Share Posted November 27, 2008 I thought Ballmer said that Vista was secure without Antivirus / more secure by design. More secure than what?!Seems as leaky as Windows XP and all the previous versions. How did you miss the fact that this vulnerability is rated as Critical on Windows XP, but only "Important" on Vista due to its improved security measures? Besides, if you installed the patch, then an AntiVirus package would have bought you nothing. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/702654-widespread-malware-attacks-target-windows-7-vista-sp1-and-xp-sp3-vuln/page/2/#findComment-590193462 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Gary7 Subscriber² Posted November 27, 2008 Subscriber² Share Posted November 27, 2008 I thought Ballmer said that Vista was secure without Antivirus / more secure by design. More secure than what?!Seems as leaky as Windows XP and all the previous versions. I think Ballmer withdrew that statement or clarified it. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/702654-widespread-malware-attacks-target-windows-7-vista-sp1-and-xp-sp3-vuln/page/2/#findComment-590193504 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hynesy Posted November 27, 2008 Share Posted November 27, 2008 Grr, I get sick of people going on and on about how insecure Vista is, it is very secure, perhaps more secure then OS X and Linux Distros if I remember the research I read some time ago correctly. The fact of the matter is Windows is on a very large number of machines. Hypothetically speaking if you were writing a virus would you right it for an OS group that owns like 90% (correct me if I'm wrong (http://marketshare.hitslink.com/report.aspx?qprid=8)) of the market like windows or for OS X at like 8.5% or Linux at .7%? Doesn't matter how secure an OS is, if it is the target of pretty much 100% of malware then its going to seem inherently insecure despite how secure/insecure it may really be. Also, a lot of the blame rests with ignorant users randomly accepting UAC prompts, I know the number of prompts created and can a boy who cried wolf scenario but thats just the price we pay for our interconnected lives. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/702654-widespread-malware-attacks-target-windows-7-vista-sp1-and-xp-sp3-vuln/page/2/#findComment-590193650 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Gary7 Subscriber² Posted November 27, 2008 Subscriber² Share Posted November 27, 2008 Grr, I get sick of people going on and on about how insecure Vista is, it is very secure, perhaps more secure then OS X and Linux Distros if I remember the research I read some time ago correctly. The fact of the matter is Windows is on a very large number of machines. Hypothetically speaking if you were writing a virus would you right it for an OS group that owns like 90% (correct me if I'm wrong (http://marketshare.hitslink.com/report.aspx?qprid=8)) of the market like windows or for OS X at like 8.5% or Linux at .7%? Doesn't matter how secure an OS is, if it is the target of pretty much 100% of malware then its going to seem inherently insecure despite how secure/insecure it may really be. Also, a lot of the blame rests with ignorant users randomly accepting UAC prompts, I know the number of prompts created and can a boy who cried wolf scenario but thats just the price we pay for our interconnected lives. It may not be as secure as Linux is but I have no problems with it. The UAC prompting can be controlled and from what I have seen is less obtrusive in SP2. I would not however run it without an AV program. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/702654-widespread-malware-attacks-target-windows-7-vista-sp1-and-xp-sp3-vuln/page/2/#findComment-590193720 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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