Expect Opera 10 alpha next week

[giga Veteran]

How is Opera not looking good?

[thealexweb]

There was a build you could download that did 100/100 on the acid3 test, wasn't a full pass though i don't think

That was a wingoogi, it's not a real offical release, I doesn't really work like a real browser.

[d_ralphie]

That was a wingoogi, it's not a real offical release, I doesn't really work like a real browser.

it's a browser engine which you can browse with. how does it not work like a 'real' browser? it's just the normal opera engine with a simplified ui for testing.

[-KJ]

Because as i can remember, u had to manually click the wand button, which is super annoying. There were other factors also that i forgot over time, but im sure if used the browser again i'd quickly be reminded.

Also Roboform works perfect for me, and i have zero problems. Already have tons of logins saved on it, so it'd be silly to switch to something that is dependent on the browser. So if i were using Opera and it ended up having a bug that deleted all my saved passwords and such... I'd have to redo it all. using a third party application for handling something such as this is much more reliant and secure in my opinion.

Learn to love Ctrl + Enter :)

[villiansv]

About time. Opera used to be known for it's amazing speed. Hell, that's what got me to try it a long while back. Now, it has neither speed or features and can easily fall behind Chrome (if it hasn't already) unless 10 can do something about it.

On features - Opera still beats all browsers on features. We can go into a addons vs. builtin features dispute if you wish, but out of the box, it has the most polished feature set of any browser (and you need a heck of a lot of extensions for FF to approximate that, which don't always integrate as seemlessly as I'd like). FF can claim extra "features" with its extensions, IE has IE7Pro and all the various shells. As for Safari/Chrome.... errr, what features?

On speed, Opera is falling behind now, I agree. And by speed, I assume it's JS performance since that's what everyone's talking about (Sunspider benchmark etc.). For example, Chromium blows Opera out of the water on that test. Probably FF 3.1 betas do too, with the new JS engine, and Safari with WebKit nightlies.

However, note that all of these are using a brand new JS engine (Chrome's V8, WebKit and Gecko's new engines which I can't recall the names of). Right now, Opera is using the oldest JS engine of these browsers (not counting IE), and it stands to reason it would be slower. So yeah, I'm hoping for a JS performance increase in version 10 too.

[wellofsouls]

Yup, Opera is actually a Internet Suite, not just a browser. Not something the other browsers can claim nowadays.

[simonlang]

now after few days testing i noticed a very annoying thing. as usual i have several tabs open, the netvibes.com one included. now, everytime when i click on the netvibes tab, opera crashes. :no:

it's an alpha ver. ok, but still ...

i am back to firefox for the moment

[SHORYUKEN!]

i'd love for them to fix the problem with 'native' windows skins not showing text in the tooltips or tab thumbnails. :|

[wellofsouls]

well, for me the menu texts are completely black when selected if using the Native skin :p