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well we know underoath to be one of the good guys and part of the family, so it's clear he's coming from a competitive rather than hateful mindset. even with my cynical outlook on life i'd say the majority of gamers online are OK, they may not be saints, but they don't bother others. there's some that are putting on a tough act but are actually cool, then there's the real jerks and loonies, who are a minority, and a small one at that.

So in other words what I posted a few pages ago?

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You give a normal person anonymity and a crowd of people and something ticks in their brain to make them -10 years of their actual age and act like complete morons?

If you are actually cool, no, putting on the tough act doesn't do you any good, it makes you look like an absolute plank of wood (N)

I can only assume in getting older people start to realize that, shame really, because getting older for some online seems to be hitting like 30/40, as opposed to an age most people hit "maturity".

LOL, this reminds me of the other day. I joined a WaW game just as it ended and the two top people on the leader board were giving everyone ****. I was against them in the next game and went 36-4. At the end they were silent and I just said ''good game''.

I'm sorry but if I totally raped someone in a game the last thing I would do is talk smack.

LOL @ everyone talking about respect. its a ****ing game man relax. some people like playing games different, if you dont like it then ignore them. dont cry about it. its really not that big of a deal, like i said befor talking smack is something that kinda comes with online game play so get use to it.

its a ****ing game man relax.

If that's the case, tell the people who feel the need to make everyone's ears bleed with profanity/abuse, or even just idiot like remarks to relax :laugh:

I'm positive 99% of the people talking about respect in here just mute idiots or move along, we're merely having a discussion now outside of the game to pinpoint how absolutely ridiculously some people behave. In essence also mocking them for their chosen paths of deliberately making themselves look like retards. We're not mocking the innocent, or those who have no choice just those acting like primitive monkeys.

It's interesting talking about the human brain, or should I say lack of it in some cases relating to this topic ;)

LOL, this reminds me of the other day. I joined a WaW game just as it ended and the two top people on the leader board were giving everyone ****. I was against them in the next game and went 36-4. At the end they were silent and I just said ''good game''.

I'm sorry but if I totally raped someone in a game the last thing I would do is talk smack.

I'm assuming you are talking about how if I was to talk smack to you, you would go 36 and 4 on me? Well, when I get home I'll have my pictures of me playing Gears of War 2 and CoD4 with the stats kills/deaths.

I'm assuming you are talking about how if I was to talk smack to you, you would go 36 and 4 on me? Well, when I get home I'll have my pictures of me playing Gears of War 2 and CoD4 with the stats kills/deaths.

Wtf are you on about. I meant people were talking smack, then I did well and they stfu, and I, instead of talking smack just said ''good game''.

Why the **** would people wana see your stats anyway?

Wtf are you on about. I meant people were talking smack, then I did well and they stfu, and I, instead of talking smack just said ''good game''.

Why the **** would people wana see your stats anyway?

I'm a man of my word and I want to prove to all of you that I do my talk for a great reasoning.

What is this epic quest you speak of?

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Just wait and your image is pretty lame and trust me...I'm not trying to start a arguement but provoking me does not help the cause. Hate me or love me, I don't really care. Although, I know most hate me there are a few on this board that actually understand how the Xbox Live system works and most of you are out of the loop. I don't hide behind a microphone either not trying to act big just saying.

Nothing wrong with recording how well you've played, we have a whole massive topic on NW for that.

But trash talking = (N)

Never ever ever does trash talking do anything to benefit you. Even if it's in self defense, the rest of the gamers will kick back and watch you pettily argue with someone.

Makes you come across as an 10 year old idiot, and unless you are 10 years old, WTF would you want people to perceive you that way?

And before we get crossed wires, obviously there is a level of "competitive speak", where you say to the enemy "we're gonna win", "prepare to get destroyed", etc. When that is done right though, you'll get a good response/a chuckle, create some good atmosphere.

But hurling insults at someone because you're scoring higher, or just generally hurling insults is pathetic.

LOL @ everyone talking about respect. its a ****ing game man relax. some people like playing games different, if you dont like it then ignore them. dont cry about it. its really not that big of a deal, like i said befor talking smack is something that kinda comes with online game play so get use to it.

Sorry but playing online is not an excuse: these internet/XBL/PSN thugs would not behave as retarded if they were playing face to face with the other players.

I like online game competition as much as everyone else here. I like seeing my name at the top of the leaderboards/rankings/races finshes but I do not feel the need to belittle or insult the other players of the lobby.

I'm assuming you are talking about how if I was to talk smack to you, you would go 36 and 4 on me? Well, when I get home I'll have my pictures of me playing Gears of War 2 and CoD4 with the stats kills/deaths.

What's your point, UND3RxOATH?

So how does the Xbox Live system work?? I find it funny you take pictures of your end scores. Fact is, you trash talk.

Xbox Live is system full of 13 year olds playing games they shouldn't even be playing (Halo/CoD/Gears). I don't mind repsponding to them since I don't sit there the whole game, also with the new party feature with the NXE most of the talk is gone now. If it wasn't for Xbox Live most of these kids would be back on the PC doing the same thing while playing CS or World of Warcraft talking or typing. Live is a system of life for most kids which gives them the right to harass your message inbox with messages after a game after you destroy them or like most people suck. It's their gateway to having fun without getting killed in person.

Nothing wrong with recording how well you've played, we have a whole massive topic on NW for that.

But trash talking = (N)

Never ever ever does trash talking do anything to benefit you. Even if it's in self defense, the rest of the gamers will kick back and watch you pettily argue with someone.

Makes you come across as an 10 year old idiot, and unless you are 10 years old, WTF would you want people to perceive you that way?

You are right nothing is wrong with recording although if I did have a capture card I would be taking up on that feature. I take pictures of games that are just too good to pass up on. There is no self thing as self defense on Xbox Live to be honest unless you want to sit there and cry about someone talking trash about your mom, dad, grandma, etc... .

What's your point, UND3RxOATH?

I'm not saying I go into a game and start talking but most of the people who do end up losing badly. My point is there are some people who back it up.

It's funny when people sit here and feel the need to prove to the world how good they are at a video game. It's almost as bad as the people who can never blame themselves when they get owned. If I lose, it's almost always my fault.

I'm not saying I go into a game and start talking but most of the people who do end up losing badly. My point is there are some people who back it up.

That's pathetic, you back up a good performance by trash talking? Actually it's worse that pathetic.

How about giving yourself a good pat on the back, thanking your team (if it's a team game) and move on? No-one really gives a damn if you're better than someone at a video game.

It's funny when people sit here and feel the need to prove to the world how good they are at a video game. It's almost as bad as the people who can never blame themselves when they get owned. If I lose, it's almost always my fault.

I'm going to take the blame since I'm the only one defending the trash talkers base on the fact that more than likely 90% of people on XBL do it. Most of you don't care for it or like it and make a thread like this complaining about the system and how we should be banned. I guess everyone who gets in a fight, tells a lie, speaks out of hate, or anything of the sort should be banned and thrown in jail. That's the way I see this thread.

That's pathetic, you back up a good performance by trash talking? Actually it's worse that pathetic.

How about giving yourself a good pat on the back, thanking your team (if it's a team game) and move on? No-one really gives a damn if you're better than someone at a video game.

I never said me, did I?

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I'm going to take the blame since I'm the only one defending the trash talkers base on the fact that more than likely 90% of people on XBL do it. Most of you don't care for it or care for it and make a thread like this complaining about the system and how we should be banned. I guess everyone who gets in a fight, tells a lie, speaks out of hate, or anything of the sort should be banned and thrown in jail. That's the way I see this thread.

Essentially yes, everyone who can't conduct themselves like a human being on Live should be warned, then banned if they don't learn to. It's basic fundamentals of respect, treat others like you'd like to be treated, or face the consequences. In this case warns, then hopefully a ban.

You're playing alongside other people you don't know. Wouldn't you find it rather strange if someone came up to you in the street and called you a ****** for no reason? Or say because they think they have better shoes than you? (relating to a better game score.)

I'm sure you would find it strange, unpleasant and you wouldn't want to associate yourself with that person <- Same applies to online, people won't want to associate or play with you. Kind of defeats the purpose of playing online if you steam roll everyone you play with into disliking you, no?

All this thread tells me about your personality is you either pretend to be another persona online for whatever sad reason, or in real life you're as much of a disrespectful person as you are online. Which is sad to read if so.

But "90%" of the online rebel hard ass' probably don't act like they do online in real life, falling back on the image I've now posted twice.

All this thread tells me about your personality is you either pretend to be another persona online for whatever sad reason, or in real life you're as much of a disrespectful person as you are online. Which is sad to read if so.

But "90%" of the online rebel hard ass' probably don't act like they do online in real life, falling back on the image I've now posted twice.

I'm saying this again. I don't mind finishing it off. I must be a complete a** because I just like to go around outside in real life slapping me with my hand and laughing at them and saying "OMG GUYZ D1D YOU C THAT HEADSHOT I GOT WITH MY HAND?!?!" no...I don't go around acting like a ass. If someone has something to say, say it don't hide it. If people need violence to get their point across thats when it gets out of control like the stories of people getting murdered of World of Warcraft because a kid ****ed a guy off and then ended up at his house and killed him. Thats when it is out of control. I am cocky and I don't mind the fact but, I don't go around acting as if I'm the president of everyone because I owned someone online and want to just brag about it outside of the box.

I will use a example: at my gears of war 2 tournament my teammate and I are up 3-0 (first to 5) on Security and they come back game is now 3-3. Next thing I hear "Dude matt what's wrong? Can't handle it not good enough?" After than we go on and win 5-3. We play them again in the finals and 5-0 them on Avalanche in less than 5 minutes.

I go home and start playing Mirror's Edge and I look at my friends list and notice both of the people we played removed me from their friends list. I look at my messages and this is what I hear "Your not even good you just run around 2 piecing (slap-and-shoot for those who don't know). That's when it is lame and pathetic.

Although I still believe you hate the fact I no-scoped you on the mongoose in the Halo 3 Beta and it still haunts you this day.

Wow you still remember that and cling onto it? You must not make many RL achievements you remember something from May 2007 lol :laugh:

No Underoath, I don't care about one kill and it certainly doesn't haunt me. I know much better players on Halo & Gears than yourself, both on NW and offline.

I don't need to play with you all the time to know what you're like. Many people have commented it on the forum, on XBL and of course we know about your bannings.

Time to change dude (Y)

Although I still believe you hate the fact I no-scoped you on the mongoose in the Halo 3 Beta and it still haunts you this day.

Wow you have issues dude, serious issues :|

By the way, when you do plan on starting up the super awesome PM News List again?

Wow you still remember that and cling onto it? You must not make many RL achievements you remember something from May 2007 lol :laugh:

No Underoath, I don't care about one kill and it certainly doesn't haunt me. I know much better players on Halo & Gears than yourself, both on NW and offline.

I don't need to play with you all the time to know what you're like. Many people have commented it on the forum, on XBL and of course we know about your bannings.

Time to change dude (Y)

I could really careless as to what you say to be honest. I want to see the better Halo and Gears play me, no seriously please.

Wow you have issues dude, serious issues :|

By the way, when you do plan on starting up the super awesome PM News List again?

Thank you thank you. Why don't I? I don't want a bunch of non good gamers on it.

We don't care about your stats or your potty mouth. We just want to play a good game, and being a weenie just because you won doesn't make the game good.

Thank you you make my point valid.

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