tiagosilva29 Posted December 6, 2008 Share Posted December 6, 2008 If I had to guess, I would say that they might add UTF-32 back in at a later time when they have nearly finished implementing HTML5 and enough users ask for its inclusion. The question I really ought to ask is who/what uses UTF-32? :p Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/706072-opera-100-alpha-1/page/4/#findComment-590233208 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted December 6, 2008 Share Posted December 6, 2008 If you read something on a page and then scroll up or down by less than the height of the viewport (the small area between the toolbars at the top and the status bar at the bottom), then a portion of the text you have already read still appears on the screen but you also see a new portion of text that you probably haven't read. When you scroll, though, you can easily lose track of which text you had read and which text you had not read. The new scroll marker will show you where the top or bottom of the viewport was before you started scrolling, which gives you an easier way of figuring out where you left off.The feature has its uses, but I don't think they should enable it by default. I considered it a bug at first, and when I learned what it did, I still found it annoying. I think they might have enabled it for the alpha release to encourage people to offer feedback about it. so you installed some alpha software without actually reading the release notes?! no wonder people complain about things that are known about! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/706072-opera-100-alpha-1/page/4/#findComment-590233398 Share on other sites More sharing options...
-T- Member Posted December 6, 2008 Member Share Posted December 6, 2008 I'm sure i had the scroll marker in 9.62 as on my mac I had a line marking the end of the window when I scrolled, this doesn't seem to work so well in the new alpha, as I just get a rather large black line Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/706072-opera-100-alpha-1/page/4/#findComment-590233448 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LOC Veteran Posted December 6, 2008 Veteran Share Posted December 6, 2008 Man this new build is fast as hell. Not sure if it beats out Chrome but it's faster than Firefox that's for sure. Couple bugs here and there but for an alpha, it's pretty solid so far. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/706072-opera-100-alpha-1/page/4/#findComment-590233510 Share on other sites More sharing options...
megamanXplosion Posted December 6, 2008 Share Posted December 6, 2008 so you installed some alpha software without actually reading the release notes?! no wonder people complain about things that are known about! I read most of the change log—and posted it in this thread for others to read—and I always refer back to the change log and other pertinent sources of information, when I encounter something that I consider odd. I have not complained about anything. I don't know why you felt the urge to respond to me, and apparently dispute my approach to testing the Opera web browser, when you haven't a clue as to how I approach such testing. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/706072-opera-100-alpha-1/page/4/#findComment-590234154 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randolph Posted December 6, 2008 Share Posted December 6, 2008 When will Opera build in "Tab Processes"? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/706072-opera-100-alpha-1/page/4/#findComment-590234654 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nagisan Posted December 6, 2008 Share Posted December 6, 2008 I'm sure i had the scroll marker in 9.62 as on my mac I had a line marking the end of the window when I scrolled, this doesn't seem to work so well in the new alpha, as I just get a rather large black line The scroll marker is in 9.62, I personally use it. Man this new build is fast as hell. Not sure if it beats out Chrome but it's faster than Firefox that's for sure. Couple bugs here and there but for an alpha, it's pretty solid so far. I barely noticed any, if at all, speed increase. It loads the same webpages at about the same exact speed as 9.62, I would have both open at the same page, hit refresh on both and generally they would finish at the same time, sometimes Opera 10 would win by a second or two, sometimes 9.62 would win. Granted I'm happy with its speed anyway, I didnt see any real improvement on it in 10. The main speed improvements I noticed are the java-based tests and what not, but actual java apps seem the same speed. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/706072-opera-100-alpha-1/page/4/#findComment-590234748 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HitmanX Posted December 6, 2008 Share Posted December 6, 2008 I just started using Opera 10 Alpha. It is a whole lot faster than Firefox. I love it. I'm only having some problems with Yahoo Mail. Sometimes Opera 10 Alpha gets stuck in Yahoo Mail and it won't let me click on any of the links. But other than that, so far so good. :D Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/706072-opera-100-alpha-1/page/4/#findComment-590234770 Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellofsouls Posted December 7, 2008 Share Posted December 7, 2008 When will Opera build in "Tab Processes"? Not in the foreseeable future according to Opera's CEO. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/706072-opera-100-alpha-1/page/4/#findComment-590235922 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nagisan Posted December 7, 2008 Share Posted December 7, 2008 Not in the foreseeable future according to Opera's CEO. Thats ashame........thats the one feature of Chrome that I liked the most, I hate a single website locking up my entire browser, sometimes leading to Opera crashing. Granted I have it always open the tabs I had open the last time Opera was open, its still annoying having to wait for all my tabs to reload. Would love to be able to force quit the problem tab, not losing what I'm doing. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/706072-opera-100-alpha-1/page/4/#findComment-590236658 Share on other sites More sharing options...
x-byte Posted December 7, 2008 Share Posted December 7, 2008 As seldom Opera crashes I really don't see that as a necessity. I have maybe two or three crashes a year. And I use it a lot. Even the alpha haven't crashed yet, been using it since the release. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/706072-opera-100-alpha-1/page/4/#findComment-590237462 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dev Null Zen Posted December 7, 2008 Share Posted December 7, 2008 The only thing Opera need to get me to jump over is an easy to use adblocker like adblock plus. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/706072-opera-100-alpha-1/page/4/#findComment-590237482 Share on other sites More sharing options...
megamanXplosion Posted December 7, 2008 Share Posted December 7, 2008 I have found a crasher: when I log into Deviant Art and click My Messages at the top, the browser crashes; it crashes everytime I try. I had another Opera user confirm that this was not specific to my machine. I have replied to the Opera Desktop blog entry for the alpha release to inform the developers. Hopefully, they will have this fixed in the next release. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/706072-opera-100-alpha-1/page/4/#findComment-590237502 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vista Posted December 7, 2008 Share Posted December 7, 2008 The only thing Opera needs to get me to jump over is an easy to use adblocker like adblock plus. Fanboy's Adblock List Download the urlfilter.ini file and save this file into: (XP) C:\Documents and Settings\"your username"\Application Data\Opera\Opera\profile\ (Vista) C:\Users\"your username"\AppData\Roaming\Opera\Opera\profile\ (OSX) /Users/"your username"/Library/Preferences/Opera Preferences/ (Linux) ~/.opera/ You'll never see any ads again. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/706072-opera-100-alpha-1/page/4/#findComment-590237506 Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonlang Posted December 7, 2008 Share Posted December 7, 2008 the 10.0 alpha is the first ver of opera since long time which i don't deleted 10mins after usage. it's very fast (deffo faster than firefox), about the adblock thing i knew already so no big deal, however there are some firefox extensions i am missing already (for example imageBot). Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/706072-opera-100-alpha-1/page/4/#findComment-590237542 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nagisan Posted December 7, 2008 Share Posted December 7, 2008 Right click webpage, click Block Content, now simply click an ad to block it. Or if you want to block someones offensive (image) signature, shift+click it and you wont that image again unless they upload it to a different host. Make sure you click Done in the top left so it saves the changes. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/706072-opera-100-alpha-1/page/4/#findComment-590238038 Share on other sites More sharing options...
absorbation Posted December 8, 2008 Share Posted December 8, 2008 Looks great, Opera has always been a reliable browser, but I quickly miss my Firefox add-ons :(. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/706072-opera-100-alpha-1/page/4/#findComment-590243098 Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellofsouls Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 Thats ashame........thats the one feature of Chrome that I liked the most, I hate a single website locking up my entire browser, sometimes leading to Opera crashing. Granted I have it always open the tabs I had open the last time Opera was open, its still annoying having to wait for all my tabs to reload. Would love to be able to force quit the problem tab, not losing what I'm doing. well, according to Opera CEO, the extra stability from multi-process architecture is not worth the extra overhead, at least in Opera's case. Personally I agree with him mostly, Opera is multi-thread implementation is quite stable already, it's really few and far between where one bad tab can lock up or crash the whole browser. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/706072-opera-100-alpha-1/page/4/#findComment-590245816 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argi Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 Opera 10 Alpha has been surprisingly stable compared to previous releases. I've been using it for a few days now with only a handful of crashes. Looks great, Opera has always been a reliable browser, but I quickly miss my Firefox add-ons :(. What in particular? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/706072-opera-100-alpha-1/page/4/#findComment-590245838 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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