markwolfe Veteran Posted December 4, 2008 Veteran Share Posted December 4, 2008 Source: AP, via Google News BEIJING (AP) ? Requirements that Internet cafes in a southern Chinese city install Chinese-developed operating systems are raising new concerns over cyber snooping by authorities, a U.S. government-funded radio station reported Wednesday.The new rules that went into effect Nov. 5 are aimed at cracking down on the use of pirated software, said Hu Shenghua, a spokesman for the Culture Bureau in the city of Nanchang. Internet cafe operators are required to remove unlicensed software and replace it with legitimate copies of either Microsoft Windows or China's homegrown Red Flag Linux operating system while paying a fee, he said. However, Radio Free Asia said cafes were being required to install Red Flag Linux even if they were using authorized copies of Windows. It quoted Xiao Qiang, director of the California-based China Internet Project, as saying the new rules would help authorities regulate Internet cafes that now operate on the margins of the law, and allow them to undertake heightened surveillance. Chinese who access the Web at Internet cafes are already required to register with their identification cards. Whether accessed from home or an Internet cafe, the Web within China is regularly patrolled by specially trained monitors looking for content deemed politically subversive or related to gambling, pornography, or illegal business dealings. Large numbers of Web sites are blocked and dozens of Chinese citizens have been arrested for accessing or sending politically sensitive information over the Web. They include a former Shanghai university librarian imprisoned for three and a half years last month for downloading and distributing information about the banned Falun Gong spiritual group. Despite such prosecutions, China has the world's largest population of Internet users with 253 million, and authorities are eager to encourage Internet usage as a driver for commerce. Internet cafes are patronized mainly by migrant workers, the rural poor and online gaming enthusiasts. A woman reached by phone at Nanchang's Junlin Internet Cafe said officials came last month to replace the pirated software they were using. The woman, who gave only her surname, Wang, declined to identify the new operating system but said the new regulations had increased costs "dramatically," while customers had been pleased by the improved performance. Fan Hongguan, a spokesman for Beijing-based Red Flag Software company said the company had been marketing a version of the operating system with chat functions to Internet cafes for three years. Fan declined to comment on the surveillance allegations. "It makes sense for Internet cafes to use (Red Flag) because of their high user traffic and the system's safeguards against viruses," Fan said. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/706080-china-internet-cafes-switching-to-chinese-os/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
brentaal Posted December 4, 2008 Share Posted December 4, 2008 Never heard of Red Flag Linux before so I decided to google it... look at this Screenshot of Red Flag Linux Desktop version 6.0 Resembles a certain OS, doesn't it? :p Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/706080-china-internet-cafes-switching-to-chinese-os/#findComment-590224420 Share on other sites More sharing options...
scratch42069 Posted December 4, 2008 Share Posted December 4, 2008 Hopefully Red Flag is forced to change GUIs since that's a blatant rip-off of XP's GUI. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/706080-china-internet-cafes-switching-to-chinese-os/#findComment-590226164 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LTD Posted December 4, 2008 Share Posted December 4, 2008 Never heard of Red Flag Linux before so I decided to google it... look at this Screenshot of Red Flag Linux Desktop version 6.0 Resembles a certain OS, doesn't it? :p Red Flag Linux?? I mean, the title is so obvious, LOL. It's also named after a propaganda publication that circulated may years ago. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/706080-china-internet-cafes-switching-to-chinese-os/#findComment-590226180 Share on other sites More sharing options...
exotoxic Posted December 4, 2008 Share Posted December 4, 2008 Never heard of Red Flag Linux before so I decided to google it... look at this Screenshot of Red Flag Linux Desktop version 6.0 Resembles a certain OS, doesn't it? :p thats the nicest linux GUI iv seen :) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/706080-china-internet-cafes-switching-to-chinese-os/#findComment-590226602 Share on other sites More sharing options...
markwolfe Veteran Posted December 5, 2008 Author Veteran Share Posted December 5, 2008 thats the nicest linux GUI iv seen :) :blink: Looks like a god-awful XP ripoff. And XP blue/green looked obnoxious to me. Different strokes for different folks. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/706080-china-internet-cafes-switching-to-chinese-os/#findComment-590227034 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MidnightDevil Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 Either that or this :rolleyes: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/706080-china-internet-cafes-switching-to-chinese-os/#findComment-590227048 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lechio Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 Hard to even believe that thing is KDE. :x Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/706080-china-internet-cafes-switching-to-chinese-os/#findComment-590227072 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadrack Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 Kind of ironic that in making this Linux Distro to combat piracy the Chinese government blatantly rips off the Windows XP GUI. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/706080-china-internet-cafes-switching-to-chinese-os/#findComment-590227142 Share on other sites More sharing options...
markwolfe Veteran Posted December 5, 2008 Author Veteran Share Posted December 5, 2008 People generally like the familiar. They complain that OO.o was ripping off MSOffice at the time, but complain that the GIMP interface was too different from Photoshop. There are no winners. :p Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/706080-china-internet-cafes-switching-to-chinese-os/#findComment-590227154 Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeR Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 LMAO that is too ironic. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/706080-china-internet-cafes-switching-to-chinese-os/#findComment-590227162 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LTD Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 In any case, it looks like total ass. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/706080-china-internet-cafes-switching-to-chinese-os/#findComment-590227172 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrChainsaw Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 I bet you MS will ask them (not in a nice way) tochange the GUI. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/706080-china-internet-cafes-switching-to-chinese-os/#findComment-590229834 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denis W. Veteran Posted December 5, 2008 Veteran Share Posted December 5, 2008 Red Flag Linux... that reminds me of RedFlagDeals.com :D I bet you MS will ask them (not in a nice way) tochange the GUI. This. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/706080-china-internet-cafes-switching-to-chinese-os/#findComment-590230014 Share on other sites More sharing options...
exotoxic Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 :blink:Looks like a god-awful XP ripoff. And XP blue/green looked obnoxious to me. Different strokes for different folks. I didnt say i liked it i just said its better than the default :p id switch to linux if it didnt have the terrible KDE/XFCE/Gnome interfaces... i know you can get themes but i dont liek any of them :/ Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/706080-china-internet-cafes-switching-to-chinese-os/#findComment-590230360 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudy Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 I bet you MS will ask them (not in a nice way) tochange the GUI. Version 6 (the one in the screenshot) was released September 29th 2007....so I'm going to guess they won't for now ;) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/706080-china-internet-cafes-switching-to-chinese-os/#findComment-590230386 Share on other sites More sharing options...
markwolfe Veteran Posted December 5, 2008 Author Veteran Share Posted December 5, 2008 I didnt say i liked it i just said its better than the default :pid switch to linux if it didnt have the terrible KDE/XFCE/Gnome interfaces... i know you can get themes but i dont liek any of them :/ The desktops you mention can all be customized to show what you want, where you want. And to work the way you like. I'm talking more than just superficial themes. Of Windows, OSX and Linux, only one of them is flexible enough to be easily changed out wholesale on the UI side. And there are more options: IceWM, e17, Openbox, JWM and more. I have only tried a couple, but really fell in love with fluxbox's simplicity, myself. I bet you MS will ask them (not in a nice way) tochange the GUI.Only if they are infringing on UI patents, or using ripped copies of MS images. The colors blue and green (even those exact shades) are not patentable nor copyrightable. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/706080-china-internet-cafes-switching-to-chinese-os/#findComment-590230410 Share on other sites More sharing options...
strekship Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 I never liked the crappy Luna theme. always had it disabled in favor of Classic. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/706080-china-internet-cafes-switching-to-chinese-os/#findComment-590231356 Share on other sites More sharing options...
what Posted December 5, 2008 Share Posted December 5, 2008 I bet you MS will ask them (not in a nice way) tochange the GUI. And I bet China will ignore them like they seem to everybody else. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/706080-china-internet-cafes-switching-to-chinese-os/#findComment-590231386 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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