how would you rate ubuntu 8.10 ?

[Syanide]

I'm happy for you, but see, I can't really download them :angry:

This was the one suggestion I was sure was going to work, but after installing the alternative drivers, blacklisting the current ones (the only difference I have is that my drivers are rt2500pci, not usb) and rebooting, I found a new icon next to the watch/date/network. "New hardware found". I was so happy to see that, I thought the troubles are over. I open it, and I get a list of new drivers available. Below the graphic card drivers were the new CVS drivers for my card. Clicking on enable didn't do sh*t. It just reported something and there was an icon next to them that looks like refresh icon in browsers. Clicking on the network icon on the panel gave me a surprise - I just managed to remove (blacklist) the old drivers, thus the card (it acts as if theres no wireless on the computer), while the new ones couldn't be enabled for some reason. I couldn't even continue the tutorial past that point...

See, I knew that using it would probably require some tweaking. I could accept that. But frankly, I gave up on Vista for problems smaller than that (bluetooth was giving me a hard time and I had some problems with display). And this seems to be so common, as if they're not doing anything about it.

And I don't know, maybe it's better I got so much trouble using it for the first time, who knows would I have been messing around in the console if not. But seriously, I didn't see anything new or mindblowing because I was so restricted by not having internet, that my old Knoppix live CD was more fun than this... At least it did what it was supposed to. I know that different hardware makes different (and sometimes no) problems, but meh.

I'm downloading Fedora 10 and Sabayon 4.

I only feel sorry I won't be able to try the other two ubuntu based distros I downloaded (Mint and Crunchbang). I mean, I could, but what's the point if it doesn't work.

Better luck next time, I guess :( I'll still try it for a bit, though, maybe I suddenly get lucky or stumble on another advice (that would work this time though).

[tsupersonic]

The base install of any linux distro goes usually okay, and it's pretty terrible for speed, and comes nowhere close to Windows XP in terms of GUI speed, and applications speed. For example, browsing the internet is faster in Windows, video drivers don't work well out of the package in linux; Scrolling, watching videos is pretty terrible on hardware that can run Vista's Aero GUI perfectly. To be honest, Vista runs better than any linux distro on my laptop. Even using the fglrx hardware accelerated drivers, make it worse, compiz runs fine, but can't watch flash videos, not even AVI's or MPG's on my hard drive run smoothly. At least I can play back 720p videos in Vista without hiccups.

Then, when it gets updates, that's where linux fails. Especially with new kernel updates, they never seem to work for me. Out of all the distros I have used, I found PC Linux (Gnome) to be my favorite. It's unfortunate they don't update it.

Generally, on many different computers I use, I find Linux to be slower. My school's computer lab have a plethora of computers with different hardware (from top of the line to older PC's) running different distros of Linux. They all feel slow, slower than XP or even Vista. Such a disappointment for what could have been a great experience.

[markwolfe Veteran]

The base install of any linux distro goes usually okay, and it's pretty terrible for speed, and comes nowhere close to Windows XP in terms of GUI speed, and applications speed. For example, browsing the internet is faster in Windows, video drivers don't work well out of the package in linux; Scrolling, watching videos is pretty terrible on hardware that can run Vista's Aero GUI perfectly. To be honest, Vista runs better than any linux distro on my laptop. Even using the fglrx hardware accelerated drivers, make it worse, compiz runs fine, but can't watch flash videos, not even AVI's or MPG's on my hard drive run smoothly. At least I can play back 720p videos in Vista without hiccups.

Then, when it gets updates, that's where linux fails. Especially with new kernel updates, they never seem to work for me. Out of all the distros I have used, I found PC Linux (Gnome) to be my favorite. It's unfortunate they don't update it.

Generally, on many different computers I use, I find Linux to be slower. My school's computer lab have a plethora of computers with different hardware (from top of the line to older PC's) running different distros of Linux. They all feel slow, slower than XP or even Vista. Such a disappointment for what could have been a great experience.

If Linux was like that for me, I wouldn't touch it, and would be back on Windows.

[fix-this!]

If Linux was like that for me, I wouldn't touch it, and would be back on Windows.

i agree, this is why i triple boot and just play with ubuntu once in awhile. i will admit like others have said, ubuntu is considerably slower than even windows 7 beta. :huh:

[Syanide]

Since I'm discussing this on another forum, I might as well post what I just wrote there:

"Newest update:

I formatted the entire drive, did a reinstall. This time before ****ing with anything else, I went straight to installing these drivers. And I did it! Yaaay.

Did it solve anything?

No. Not a thing. Internet is so slow, it simply doesn't work. Plus it just randomly disconnects, then reconnects... I get 90+ % signal strength in XP, I get 40% MAX in Ubuntu. Then the same hassle: Reboot, go to Windows, search for a new solution, download the page, reboot, go to Ubuntu, try it, it fails, reboot, go to Windows...

**** THAT.

Now, I'll try Fedora and Sabayon (this one only because it's a DVD so I figure it comes with a lot of programs - that way I can at least try some **** because in Ubuntu I couldn't do squat, I couldn't even play music while I was reading all the instructions/trying them because it doesn't come with codecs, and you need ****ing internet to get them). But I doubt it'll work... And it's such a shame, I was really looking forward to trying a lot of **** (especially since I'm trying to use free software), but what's the point if it doesn't work. Chances are, the only way I might try Linux is if I get that netbook, but I think I won't have enough money.

And I think that now, I could never recommend it to anyone but geeks / pro users / people who have the ability to regenerate nerves over night. I am seriously so ****ed off aaaaaargh!"

:angry:

:cry:

[tsupersonic]

If Linux was like that for me, I wouldn't touch it, and would be back on Windows.

I like trying new OS's just to see how they are, I'm back on XP/Vista dual boot, runs like a charm, I know I'll definitely try Linux in a few days to see how the new kernel is. It always calls me back :laugh: I seriously need better hardware, looking to get a new laptop or desktop sometime in the near future. It's time to go multi-core and 64-bit :cool:

[(Spork)]

8.10 runs great for me i really like learning the new os i have no slow downs no nothing just runs great

[fix-this!]

Since I'm discussing this on another forum, I might as well post what I just wrote there:

"Newest update:

I formatted the entire drive, did a reinstall. This time before ****ing with anything else, I went straight to installing these drivers. And I did it! Yaaay.

Did it solve anything?

No. Not a thing. Internet is so slow, it simply doesn't work. Plus it just randomly disconnects, then reconnects... I get 90+ % signal strength in XP, I get 40% MAX in Ubuntu. Then the same hassle: Reboot, go to Windows, search for a new solution, download the page, reboot, go to Ubuntu, try it, it fails, reboot, go to Windows...

**** THAT.

Now, I'll try Fedora and Sabayon (this one only because it's a DVD so I figure it comes with a lot of programs - that way I can at least try some **** because in Ubuntu I couldn't do squat, I couldn't even play music while I was reading all the instructions/trying them because it doesn't come with codecs, and you need ****ing internet to get them). But I doubt it'll work... And it's such a shame, I was really looking forward to trying a lot of **** (especially since I'm trying to use free software), but what's the point if it doesn't work. Chances are, the only way I might try Linux is if I get that netbook, but I think I won't have enough money.

And I think that now, I could never recommend it to anyone but geeks / pro users / people who have the ability to regenerate nerves over night. I am seriously so ****ed off aaaaaargh!"

:angry:

:cry:

what build are you using ? 8.10? if so i think that's where the problem might lie, alot of people are having issues with it atm.

[Syanide]

Ubuntu 8.10 AMD64

Soooooo... Maybe I should try 8.04? And is there difference in stability when it comes to 32/64 bits?. I have 2 gigs of ram so there's probably no real need for 64, but I was thinking since I'm at it I might as well try it.

[cork1958]

All the buntu's are just one big, bloated, fanboy wanna be Linux distros and have been since version 6.10!!

Gave up on that lousy thing a long time ago.

You want to use a REAL Linux distro that has all the codecs and stuff right out of the box and isn't so bloated and really works, get Zenwalk http://www.zenwalk.org/ or Blag http://www.blagblagblag.org/.

[fix-this!]

Ubuntu 8.10 AMD64

Soooooo... Maybe I should try 8.04? And is there difference in stability when it comes to 32/64 bits?. I have 2 gigs of ram so there's probably no real need for 64, but I was thinking since I'm at it I might as well try it.

8.04 lts is alot faster IMO, not perfect but better. also i feel x86 for ubuntu is plenty enough, you really don't notice a performance increase with x64 anyways in linux, at least i haven't.

All the buntu's are just one big, bloated, fanboy wanna be Linux distros and have been since version 6.10!!

Gave up on that lousy thing a long time ago.

were not here to bash it by any means. i just feel more time should be focused on speed and performance issues. 8.10 from what ive read really didn't take off too well with linux fans.

overall it is still fun to play with on occasion. hopefully the next build will be better.

[Lechio]

Just made a "real" install of Kubuntu 8.10 today (was using 8.04).

Must say it's smoother than I though it would be. After a few tweaks here and there KDE4 runs pretty smoothly on an AMD Athlon @900 MHz with 384 of RAM. :)

[Syanide]

All the buntu's are just one big, bloated, fanboy wanna be Linux distros and have been since version 6.10!!

Gave up on that lousy thing a long time ago.

You want to use a REAL Linux distro that has all the codecs and stuff right out of the box and isn't so bloated and really works, get Zenwalk http://www.zenwalk.org/ or Blag http://www.blagblagblag.org/.

I don't want to use a REAL Linux distro, I want to use a n00b friendly distro that actually WORKS with wireless.

8.04 lts is alot faster IMO, not perfect but better. also i feel x86 for ubuntu is plenty enough, you really don't notice a performance increase with x64 anyways in linux, at least i haven't.

I might try it...

[fix-this!]

i may go back to xubuntu, ubuntu 8.10 is just crawling right now and this ends up happening every time for me.

[markwolfe Veteran]

i may go back to xubuntu, ubuntu 8.10 is just crawling right now and this ends up happening every time for me.

Ubuntu feels heavy to me (as does Vista). I actually like Xubuntu (XFCE is my second favorite environment, Fluxbox is my first).

[fix-this!]

Ubuntu feels heavy to me (as does Vista). I actually like Xubuntu (XFCE is my second favorite environment, Fluxbox is my first).

i just don't get it man, i did no tweaks or anything other than disabling ipv6. with my specs it should be flying.

vista & windows 7 are much faster for some reason ? i posted my issues at the ubuntu forums too.

[thealexweb]

I'd give it a 2/10. Very poor release.

[LTD]

I don't want to use a REAL Linux distro, I want to use a n00b friendly distro that actually WORKS with wireless.

I might try it...

You're killing Linux!

LEAVE LINUX ALONE!!!!!!

[fix-this!]

I'd give it a 2/10. Very poor release.

yeah that seems to be the overall concenous about 8.10. i dunno if i should even bother going back to 8.04. it really does get frustrating man.

[thealexweb]

yeah that seems to be the overall concenous about 8.10. i dunno if i should even bother going back to 8.04. it really does get frustrating man.

It was enough to make me go back to Windows, dought I'll be trying Linux again for a very long time.

[fix-this!]

It was enough to make me go back to Windows, dought I'll be trying Linux again for a very long time.

honestly ive seen alot of statements like that on different forums lately.

i may try linux mint again, for some reason that seemed to be rock solid and function very well.

[Farstrider]

Well I have to say that I have 8.10 64 Bit Version running and it's flying! The only issue I have not yet sorted out is Exaile Music Player crashes and burns when I rescan my music folders! Other than that it's perfect and it fast and stable!

[Farstrider]

More than a double post, not sure what actually happend!!

[Farstrider]

More than a double post, not sure what actually happend!!

[Farstrider]

More than a double post, not sure what actually happend!! Sorry!!