Police set to step up hacking of home PCs

[danisflying527]

No it isn't you're losing p2p soon unless they canceled that.

Anyway expect to see some company like mcafee or the people that make avast or some random programmer release something that blocks you from this within a week. Anyway thank god im in the US.

WERE LOSING P2P?

omg Australia u r tex suxxorz im anowe move 2 americas and rip off australia movie tat

suxed 2.

No wonder since we have a fugly old man as our Head man when you guys get an awesome black guy

[Denholm]

^

:laugh:

If only Australia had Michael J. "Crocodile" Dundee as Prime Minister, all the Australian Internet problems would be fixed.

[LTD]

So get a Mac.

Anyway, I feel sorry for UK residents. This is getting ridiculous.

[Whinges]

WERE LOSING P2P?

omg Australia u r tex suxxorz im anowe move 2 americas and rip off australia movie tat

suxed 2.

No wonder since we have a fugly old man as our Head man when you guys get an awesome black guy

Yes we are.. Australian Net Filter will include p2p. This filtering will also cause major problems for online gaming.

Edited January 5, 2009 by NeonBlue

[toadeater]

Hack the police.

[garthfluff]

Not handing over any encryption keys you have comes with a 2 year jail term. So there is pretty much nothing you can do about this.

[MuffloN]

Here we go again, yet another lame scheme by the Real Nazi party to spy on people they suspect are doing

wrong.

Hacking is illegal, so therefore Real Nazi party are condoning hacking.

Yes I found it quite amusing that the local supporter of the UK's most facistic party (and sadly, the ruling one) is the one saying "Bring it" when it comes to the (police) state wanting to "ensure public safety".

Now if you excuse me, I'm Swedish and I have to go make plans for some revolutions, the ******* over here are trying similar ****, and I'm way too liberal to allow it, brb making C4.

EDIT: Yes, that last part was a implied terrorist joke for those sarcastically challenged :) (Or is it? *dun dun dun*)

Edited January 5, 2009 by MuffloN

[FloatingFatMan]

I'm not the slightest bit worried... Apart from not actually having anything they'd be interested in on my HD, how the hell are they going to get past..

a) My Router, with it's internal firewall and NAT.

b) My wifi encryption, especially as only registered MAC addresses are even allowed to talk to my router

c) My software firewall

d) My locked down ports

e) My lack of enabled remote services they could connect to

And no, I never ever open email attachments, no matter who they're from. If someone wants to send me a file, they do it via other means...

As someone suggested earlier, this has been suggested but some idiot backbencher who's seen one too many episodes of Spooks and has no idea of how computers actually work.

[MuffloN]

I'm not the slightest bit worried... Apart from not actually having anything they'd be interested in on my HD, how the hell are they going to get past..

a) My Router, with it's internal firewall and NAT.

b) My wifi encryption, especially as only registered MAC addresses are even allowed to talk to my router

c) My software firewall

d) My locked down ports

e) My lack of enabled remote services they could connect to

And no, I never ever open email attachments, no matter who they're from. If someone wants to send me a file, they do it via other means...

As someone suggested earlier, this has been suggested but some idiot backbencher who's seen one too many episodes of Spooks and has no idea of how computers actually work.

Well, just thought I'd let you know, MAC filtering is absolutely worthless today as even the stupidest script kiddie can bypass it with ease, and WEP/WPA(1) Encryption on the WiFi is also crackable nowdays, WPA2-PSK/PMK (14+ with lower, upper, special and numbers) or a PEAP RADIUS server would be the best and your firewall, locked down ports and lack of remote services, hardware firewalls and NAT will do very little against a good MITM attack combined with undetectable exploits (Yes, there are such, plenty of them).

[megamanXplosion]

(N)

[Denholm]

Welcome to the new 'world order' :ermm:

Soviet Earth - all your bytes are belong to big brother.

[FloatingFatMan]

Well, just thought I'd let you know, MAC filtering is absolutely worthless today as even the stupidest script kiddie can bypass it with ease, and WEP/WPA(1) Encryption on the WiFi is also crackable nowdays, WPA2-PSK/PMK (14+ with lower, upper, special and numbers) or a PEAP RADIUS server would be the best and your firewall, locked down ports and lack of remote services, hardware firewalls and NAT will do very little against a good MITM attack combined with undetectable exploits (Yes, there are such, plenty of them).

WPA2-PSK is exactly what I use, with a virtually uncrackable key, which I change regularly.

Plus, you're assuming the UK police actually have IT experts. Most of them don't even know the difference between a Playstation and a PC...

[threesixtyflip]

This is pathetic, how would they get into our computers though?

I mean if they send me an email going "We are the poli... oops I mean Facebook, click me!" aren't we all going to be able to tell?

And if you can't, then you don't deserve to have a computer :p

[MuffloN]

WPA2-PSK is exactly what I use, with a virtually uncrackable key, which I change regularly.

Plus, you're assuming the UK police actually have IT experts. Most of them don't even know the difference between a Playstation and a PC...

Well excellent then, I'd recon that MITM attacks on Wireless would be the #1 way for the police to attack someone after trying remote exploits.

Besides, the police in Sweden at least got some good people, however they are few, I guess this would be something they'd be able to script/automize heavily, they'd make a "all in one wonder script" where they'd input a email, IP address and similar stuff and a dedicated machine would send infected attatchements in emails, try standard remote exploits (that any firewall will kill off) and be done with it.

Assuming they just don't break in and install a software/hardware keylogger.

P.S: <3 Wardriving, it's damn good fun!

[.Kompressor]

.....ask your government..... "who's got the Crack?" Rofl.

this song is fitting to this absurd law...

"I liked it when you slipped me a roofie, I liked it when you got the crack.....Whoo's got the Crack? Whooooos got the crack??" :laugh:

[stevember]

WPA2-PSK is exactly what I use, with a virtually uncrackable key, which I change regularly.

Plus, you're assuming the UK police actually have IT experts. Most of them don't even know the difference between a Playstation and a PC...

Its not basic street bobby that will do it!

[FloatingFatMan]

Its not basic street bobby that will do it!

No, it's their IT specialists. The guys that MIGHT be able to plug a 360 controller in the right way around.

If you show them how, and have pictures... In crayon... :p

[Guest ID2]

Moreover...

Look, I have twice had to deal with the Police in the UK related to what would be termed "Internet crimes". Twice, at 2 different companies we have needed to involve the police. We knew nothing would come of it, but for the sake of being seen to do the right thing, we did it.

They are bumbling nincompoops at best. Each time, the first officer taking the report just looked lost and out of his depth. Then it gets referred to the "person who knows a bit about IT". This person has assumptions based upon the fact they understand what a bookmark is and have a mate who runs a website.

After complaining, it gets escalated to someone with some level of power but no level of understanding. Then you push for 6 months, and give up because you have what you needed - a crime report number.

Seriously. Someone in the government with little understanding beyond what they have seen on Spooks, has suggested this. A bunch of back-benchers who justify themselves by running with the pack have agreed. It gets passed as a law. Police stations will receive a ?2000 5 page document detailing it, and the promise of training and new PC. Training will never be given, but the PC will arrive. It will sit boxed for 3 months, then someone will set it up. It will be used for emailing, left unsecured, and possibly a little solitaire.

The general police will have no idea about any of the above.

The general police are of the Keystone variety or worse, but isn't there a new breed of intelligent, highly educated Mr & Mrs Plods out there in the world of specialized policing? What about Echelon?

[garthfluff]

"He said the authorities could break into a suspect?s home or office and insert a ?key-logging? device into an individual?s computer."

So is that officially all of our rights out of the window then? Not only do they have free access to your computer, but also your home.

[Lt-DavidW]

"He said the authorities could break into a suspect’s home or office and insert a “key-logging” device into an individual’s computer."

So is that officially all of our rights out of the window then? Not only do they have free access to your computer, but also your home.

All that without a warrant!

We can thank our authoritarian Home Secretary Jacqui Smith for this move. Along with her ideas for ID cards, the DNA database, 42-day detention without charge, increased CCTV, and moving cannabis from Class C to Class B.

[garthfluff]

All that without a warrant!

We can thank our authoritarian Home Secretary Jacqui Smith for this move. Along with her ideas for ID cards, the DNA database, 42-day detention without charge, increased CCTV, and moving cannabis from Class C to Class B.

Yup, all of that on a 'hunch', suspicion, or maybe because you skipped in line in front of some irritated policeman in Tesco.

To be honest, I can't really see any more things they can take from us.

[MtnDewCodeRedFreak]

Haha glad I'm not in the UK.

Otherwise, it'd be a living hell.

[thealexweb]

I may support Labour but measures like this are not good for the country.

[FlibbyFlobby]

I may support Labour but measures like this are not good for the country.

Are national ID cards, a DNA database and a phone call and email database good for the country too? It's just needless and intrusive collection of personal data that will promptly be burnt to a CD and left on a train.

The days of being able to support Labour and privacy have long since passed.

[GEIST]

Everyone here who's just the least bit surprised or shocked should at the very least read George Orwell's 1984 and if it's just to see what more is headed towards the UK. I used to think the U.S.A. is heading towards turning into a giant Big Brother theme park, but good old little Great Britain is outpacing them by lightyears.

Your rights to privacy have been dead for a while now.