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The administrators (Neobond, Daniel, Remak and Frogboy) have laid the rules: no discussion of warez.

They are the head-honchos here and have absolute control of the place because they own the place so the rule is final.

It's not just a question of law, it's a question of public attracted by the forum: Neowin is a tech forum which goal is to discuss technology news, not a place to swap cracks and keygens.

There are plenty of some shady sites like this around, feel free to go there. Neowin would not be as good as it is today if it was just a hacker-delights forum.

Dude you gotta be kidding. There is open talk of alternative downloads in THIS thread, but it has to be tiptoed around like we are in grade school.....and MS couldn't give a rats arse less. There are several threads with people complaining or asking for help to fix an OS not released yet. Don't be a hypocrite. And don't dream of telling me they asked for help here because they could'nt be bothered to go on MS tech forums. Keeping Neowin away from being a crack site is one thing, tiptoeing around rules, as have been done in THIS thread, then acting pious is lunacy. If piracy talk of any kind, as you suggest, is totally forbidden, then 99% of this forum/thread is against said rule.

And neither would any legal attempts to stop ya. Get the point now? There is another reason for the lunacy ;) And it has nothing to do with protecting Neowin. But go ahead and amuse yourself thinking the "rules" are ironclad for a legal reason.

And I don't see the point of waiting to pounce on MS's website for a key. Search Orbit30 ;) Hmmmm.....I wonder if I just broke a rule of some kind.

Neither does flying potatoes, does that mean they have to get a lawyer that understand flying potatoes as well?

The first amendment have no context within this place, bringing it up has no relevance, you could just as well have replaced the word "First amendment" with "flying potatoes", if we were to believe you your "point" would've remained the same.

Real story: You're not a lawyer, you thought the first amendment applied here, you got busted, tried to back out, lost.

Keeping Neowin away from being a crack site is one thing, tiptoeing around rules, as have been done in THIS thread, then acting pious is lunacy.

You remind me of a teenager. This is the exact argument 16yr old's use when you slightly bend the rules for them because you don't want to be draconian or you want to give them some leeway/fun, then they want to exploit that. It's like when you tell them you stricly prohibit playing hooky, but let them miss the last day of the year. Then next year they try and justify skipping their test with the same logic you're using.

When you get a speeding ticket do you also complain that since the cops usually give a 5 or 10 km leeway, out of courtesy, that you should be forgiven for doing double the speed limit?

You guys need to take it out to the parking lot.

Yes.

The rules are there to be followed and if you do not, you are not going to be welcomed here.

There is another rule:

Neowin requires that members respect the decision of moderators.

And so I'm going to ask that everyone gets back on topic.

Just over 6 hours to go! :D

Wow. Over 1000 replies to this thread in 4 days...

aye ive just noticed that myself :)

my views on Windows 7 atm is that its a good little OS so far, had 1 BSOD but i'll put that down to drivers not being topnotch just yet, onboard sounds works a treat, but my x-fi doesnt

63 is way too many pages to go through to find tidbits of information so I hope you guys won't mind these questions:

1. Is the original chinese link still in play? I take it we will be able to download an English version of Windows 7, right?

2. What's the official exact release date now? Does anyone have it in 'GMT' format?

3. Will we be able to sumbit bugs via Connect?

I was a beta tester for Vista for quite a while but always subimitted bugs via the built in program. So I never got my free copy. :(

Thanks.

63 is way too many pages to go through to find tidbits of information so I hope you guys won't mind these questions:

1. Is the original chinese link still in play? I take it we will be able to download an English version of Windows 7, right?

2. What's the official exact release date now? Does anyone have it in 'GMT' format?

3. Will we be able to sumbit bugs via Connect?

I was a beta tester for Vista for quite a while but always subimitted bugs via the built in program. So I never got my free copy. :(

Thanks.

1. Yes, you will be able to download it in English among other languages.

2. The release date is believed to be at 20:00 GMT, which has yet to be officially confirmed by MS.

3. Submitting bugs via the built-in tool is what they're after. You can only submit bugs via Connect if you're part of the private beta.

1) http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windows-7/

2) It's 8pm tonight mate

3) Each window now has a "Send feedback" button so they will probably be using this for the basis of their feedback.

Pity my DVD drive in my laptop crapped out the other day, got a Dell tech to fix it on monday so i'll just grab my copy tonight and save the key till then ;)

blog will first place to notify of availablity so i'm sure alot of people are doing this:

F5_refresh.jpg

The blog and the main website aren't on same servers too. Windows.com is on higher load ability microsoft.com server 66.249.17.251 and the blog is on obviously a lower capacity server 66.129.68.242

so OFFICIALLY MS says that the public beta WILL be released today correct?

We do not have an OFFICIAL time, we just have a picture from MSDN saying 12pm PST?

When the beta is released the only place to get it will be http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windows-7/

Are all of these correct?

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