By design or is it a bug?

[gate1975mlm]

In Windows 7 Build 7000 and 7022 when you click on the start menu then All programs why does the last program folder at the bottom of the list disappear and leave a little space between that line right above the Back button?

I don't like this because sometimes when I open all programs and my mouse is over the blank space the scroll wheel on my mouse does not move the scroll bar until I have my mouse over the closest program folder.

It did not do this in Windows Vista and was better for it.

To test make sure you have enough things in your All programs menu. And leave the scrollbar at the top. Then open All programs and watch how the last program folder show for like a second then closes causing the blank space.

I hope Microsoft can just make this little change so it does not do that anymore.

Is this by design or is it a bug?

Video of the bug!

http://rapidshare.com/files/219715376/4-10...11-20-53_AM.avi

Edited April 10, 2009 by gate1975mlm

[jigga1018]

remember its beta, it doest do this on my copy of windows 7 could easily be graphics drivers causing this problem,

betas have bugs wait till general release then all will be good

[gate1975mlm]

remember its beta, it doest do this on my copy of windows 7 could easily be graphics drivers causing this problem,

betas have bugs wait till general release then all will be good

O I understand Beta have there issues :) And I guess it could be a video driver issue but I don't think it is.

Just to be clear you said you do not have this issue. Are you sure you understand what I am talking about?

Edited February 12, 2009 by gate1975mlm

[rakeshishere]

Definitely must be a bug but i just couldn't reproduce this on my side

[gate1975mlm]

Definitely must be a bug but i just couldn't reproduce this on my side

Is your All Programs full and when you click on All Programs is the scrollbar at the top? Because this is when I see it.

Can you check please?

You should see one of your program folders Apear then disappear very fast.

Its not a huge deal but I just don't remember this happening in Windows Vista.

I would take a video of what is happening but the program I use Snapit cause a "com surrogate" error when recording a video.

Edited February 12, 2009 by gate1975mlm

[deactivated01032015]

No bug on my side. Unfortunately I'm using 7000.

[rakeshishere]

Is your All Programs full and when you click on All Programs is the scrollbar at the top? Because this is when I see it.

Can you check please?

You should see one of your program folders Apear then disappear very fast.

Its not a huge deal but I just don't remember this happening in Windows Vista.

I would take a video of what is happening but the program I use Snapit cause a "com surrogate" error when recording a video.

Use inbuilt problem steps recorder in Windows 7 and upload the file in here...

[gate1975mlm]

Use inbuilt problem steps recorder in Windows 7 and upload the file in here...

Ok I tried problem steps recorder but it does not show the bug that I am talking about. Only video can capture it i guess.

Edited February 12, 2009 by gate1975mlm

[Brandon Live Veteran]

I see it on the beta build. The very edge of the last item appears for an instant and then get displaced by the separator. Looks like a tiny bug/glitch that it is showing there are at all, the separator should show up at the same time as the list (or at least the last item should never draw). It may only show up in specific layouts or something.

Don't know if it's been fixed in later builds, I'll watch for it though.

[gate1975mlm]

I see it on the beta build. The very edge of the last item appears for an instant and then get displaced by the separator. Looks like a tiny bug/glitch that it is showing there are at all, the separator should show up at the same time as the list (or at least the last item should never draw). It may only show up in specific layouts or something.

Don't know if it's been fixed in later builds, I'll watch for it though.

Cool I new I could not be the only one seeing this :)

I know its not a huge bug or anything. But like you said it looks to be a glitch of some kind and I wonder if Microsoft knows about it?

Edited February 12, 2009 by gate1975mlm

[rakeshishere]

Send feedback to Microsoft and hope to see it fixed in RC build

[Brandon Live Veteran]

I don't see it on my laptop though, may have been fixed already.

[mad_onion]

well what build are you running on your laptop? :ninja:

oh btw brandon windows 7 is awesome if I haven't said before. an issue which I had in vista that still seems to exist in 7 is that explorer creates thumbnails for files such as pdf, doc and ppt at first and then just stops doing it after a while. is it some kind of ifilter issue? on 7 32bit btw.

[Brandon Live Veteran]

well what build are you running on your laptop? :ninja:

Monday's :)

oh btw brandon windows 7 is awesome if I haven't said before. an issue which I had in vista that still seems to exist in 7 is that explorer creates thumbnails for files such as pdf, doc and ppt at first and then just stops doing it after a while. is it some kind of ifilter issue? on 7 32bit btw.

Hmm... have you reported this through any of the official feedback channels? It wouldn't be IFilters, those don't have anything to do with thumbnails. However, thumbnails are generated by thumbnail handlers that are usually installed by the application that supports that file type. Also I assume you're referring to the real thumbnail images (and not icons), which actually show a preview of the document. For most Office documents, thumbnails aren't actually enabled by default, and they need to be enabled in the Save As dialog. I assume they're off by default because they make the file larger. At least I know that's true for Word docs (I think PowerPoint saves thumbnails out by default).

PDFs I'm not sure about, I'm guessing Adobe or whateve reader program you use is generating those. Do you have any problem with image file types? If so, it could be a problem with the thumbnail cache.

[gate1975mlm]

Monday's :)

Hmm... have you reported this through any of the official feedback channels? It wouldn't be IFilters, those don't have anything to do with thumbnails. However, thumbnails are generated by thumbnail handlers that are usually installed by the application that supports that file type. Also I assume you're referring to the real thumbnail images (and not icons), which actually show a preview of the document. For most Office documents, thumbnails aren't actually enabled by default, and they need to be enabled in the Save As dialog. I assume they're off by default because they make the file larger. At least I know that's true for Word docs (I think PowerPoint saves thumbnails out by default).

PDFs I'm not sure about, I'm guessing Adobe or whateve reader program you use is generating those. Do you have any problem with image file types? If so, it could be a problem with the thumbnail cache.

So your running a newer build then 7022?

Also you say you don't have this issue on your PC are you sure you tested it the right way?

Hmmmm I see you are from From Redmond, WA Home of Microsoft :)

[gate1975mlm]

Monday's :)

Hmm... have you reported this through any of the official feedback channels? It wouldn't be IFilters, those don't have anything to do with thumbnails. However, thumbnails are generated by thumbnail handlers that are usually installed by the application that supports that file type. Also I assume you're referring to the real thumbnail images (and not icons), which actually show a preview of the document. For most Office documents, thumbnails aren't actually enabled by default, and they need to be enabled in the Save As dialog. I assume they're off by default because they make the file larger. At least I know that's true for Word docs (I think PowerPoint saves thumbnails out by default).

PDFs I'm not sure about, I'm guessing Adobe or whateve reader program you use is generating those. Do you have any problem with image file types? If so, it could be a problem with the thumbnail cache.

Brandon could you check if the isssue here https://www.neowin.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=724530 also got fixed in your build of Winodws 7?

[mad_onion]

image thumbnails work fine, it's not that big a deal. tbh i doubt it will be resolved I think the things that cause it are quite complex. but i will try to clear the thumbnails in case the cache is broken.

[Brandon Live Veteran]

Brandon could you check if the isssue here https://www.neowin.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=724530 also got fixed in your build of Winodws 7?

Thanks, I'll look into it.

[gate1975mlm]

Thanks, I'll look into it.

Did you check this out yet :)

Thanks

[Brandon Live Veteran]

I am told that will be fixed.

[gate1975mlm]

I am told that will be fixed.

Great thanks Brandon :)

[gate1975mlm]

I don't see it on my laptop though, may have been fixed already.

Ok I have installed Windows 7 Build 7048.

And I still have this bug! :(

[gate1975mlm]

Ok I have installed Windows 7 Build 7048.

And I still have this bug! :(

Just too add to this topic.

When you click on All Programs it looks like the text flickers or something.

No question about it this is some kind of bug/glitch.

Just compare it to Windows Vista and you will see that Windows 7 has a glitch when clicking on All Programs under the start menu.

[gate1975mlm]

Ok I have installed Windows 7 Build 7057.

And I still have this bug! :(

[gate1975mlm]

Ok I have installed Windows 7 Build 7057.

And I still have this bug! :(

In every build of Windows 7 including 7057 when you click on All Programs you can see the last program folder peek for a second then disappear.

Again this does not happen at all in Vista.

I hope Microsoft plans to fix this before final come out!