[Cancelled] Heroes Season 4 (Volume 5 : Redemption)

[LOC Veteran]

Peter looks quite upset in that one pic...

[Rappy Veteran]

[Brendando]

Everything's coming together. Knepper, Maul, another hot girl that might actually have a decent/interesting/realistic/non-boring story arc (glares at Claire), and that won't be cut short for the sake of impact- Daphne. Sylar will inevitably destroy Nathan (hooray). Now, steer clear of Shanti Viruses (unless your going to do it right this time), hold onto a single, progressive story arc that has multiple tangents, as in the first series, but doesn't collapse under its own weight and force a reboot (third series) or get cut short by a stupid writers strike (second series) upgrade Peter's ability so he can store stuff and bring him back on the level with Sylar, loosen the restrictions on time-travelling with Hiro, have plenty of Sylar, kill Angela Petrelli and Claire and forget all the garbage about her weather controlling sister, Allow Peter/Sylar to actually engage in a wicked, multi-power battle/standoff and we can finally move on towards an epic series. :D. Finally. Series One No.2, if you will.

I never lost faith, I just misplaced it I was still watching it til the end unless it got really bad, and it looks like it's improving.

+1.

The end of Season 4 had me feeling as though Heroes was coming back to it's original state- the Sylar Shapeshifting/Losing himself storyline was awesome. Although, the way they blocked are view of the fight scene was the most retarded thing I have ever scene. No, I did not want to see Claire's single eye rather than Peter/Nathan/Sylar fighting. Yes, I did want to see a bad ass battle. STOP TEASING ME AND TAKING IT AWAY.

[Rappy Veteran]

3.22pm: Kring sets up volume five, saying that the government are now hunting the heroes, leaving them free to go back to their normal lives. "We're creating a new wrinkle in the mythology of the show. There is a family of people with these powers who had figured out to live alongside us and hide in plain sight. We created this idea of a carnival... They have been hiding all this time, coming in and out of our view. The carnival will now show itself."

ooo they all have powers!

[Rappy Veteran]

3.24pm: Preview clips: Claire meets a girl at college, where she is recognised for her past actions; Robert Knepper's new baddie Samuel talking about two possible paths. Matt Parkman throwing a chair in anger at what appears to be a vision of Sylar. Samuel meeting Hiro with the line: "I think we're going to be great friends." Sylar leaning over and giving Angela a kiss.

3.26pm: Claire saying: "I don't want to be pretend to be anyone but me." Tracy recalling how she felt herself shatter in a chat with HRG. Ando finding a collapsed HRG on some steps. Nathan being kidnapped. Swoosie Kurtz back for a dinner date with Angela - but hints that she has a more sinister agenda. A lesbian kiss between Claire and a brunette. HRG in a car being filled with water.

3.28pm: And finally... Sylar emerging from the dirt.

3.30pm: Kring says that the footage we just saw all came from the first three and a half episodes. The moderator asks each of the panelists to sum up where their characters are at when the new season begins.

3.31pm: Jack Coleman: "I am in a place where we're setting up this new company, my marriage is falling apart, so there's sort of a newfound empathy for what it is that people with abilities have been going through. I'm a bit of an island and trying to find some solid ground."

3.32pm: Masi Oka: "Hiro's going through an illness, possibly a terminal illness. He gets that bad news and realises what his true destiny is. He goes back and starts a new business with Ando. It kind of goes."

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I read lesbian kiss I am sold Volume 5 is going to be good :shifty:

[Rappy Veteran]

3.33pm: Hayden Panettiere: "Claire's in college, freshman year and becomes friends with a very, very interesting girl. C'mon, we're gonna have fun, right? Girls just wanna have fun. She catches something and accidentally finds out about me. She becomes a good friend and confidante."

3.34pm: Adrian Pasdar: "I think midseason we start explaining the difference between Nathan and Sylar's journeys. It gets pretty interesting."

3.35pm: Zachary Quinto: "My character really exists in two places. One is with Adrian, then the other is inside Matt Parkman's head. That's a lot of fun for me."

3.36pm: Milo Ventimiglia: "Peter's back to being a paramedic. He;'s got a lot more humour about everything now. He smiles a lot now, but he's still a guy where if someone comes at him swinging, he's gonna swing back harder."

3.37pm: Robert Knepper: "That was a great family to be a part of four years but this family is four years strong as well. They've all been so welcoming. Samuel seems to be the reluctant leader of this carnival. His brother has just passed away. He's made the decision that he's going to change [their] lives and one by one, lure these heroes in to help him execute this plan."

3.39pm: Dawn Oliveri: "On the show Samuel and I maybe have some other kind of interesting relationship. I am naked most of the time on the show. I have tattoos and together with Samuel, we can use them to find other people and make our family better. What happens with Lydia, my character, we don't know yet."

3.40pm: Ray Park: "I play Edgar, one of the carnival. I play with knives. I'm sent out into the world by Samuel. A lot of the stuff I don't want to know. I have some cool interaction with Milo coming up. We get to dance around a little bit. I also have the power of superspeed."

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we gain another speedster!

[Hurmoth]

It sickens me, I bet the only reason they're having Claire kiss another girl is to increase the ratings: "Oh, our ratings suck, let's get Hayden to kiss another hot girl, that should do it."

:x

[Rappy Veteran]

3.42pm: Madeline Zima: "I play Gretchen. I am a freshman at the college Claire goes to. Right off the bat I try to be friends with her."

3.43pm: Tim Kring on romances: "We're easing towards a few, but none we're going to talk about right now."

3.44pm: Tim Kring on the meaning of redemption: "It's a chance for us to go back and strip away some of the story elements that make the show harder to go back to. So Claire's in college, Peter's a paramedic, Nathan's a senator and Matt's a detective again."

3.45pm: "We find out that Hiro has this terminal illness," says Masi. "He finds out that his powers are going out of control a bit. His redemption is going back in time and fixing the mistakes he made in the past. He kind of has a bucket list. He wants to leave a legacy before he goes away."

3.46pm: Jack Coleman says there is a plotline involving him, a car and water that is "quite dramatic".

3.47pm: Hayden says she has got to throw herself out of a window in one scene.

3.48pm: Adrian: "My arc has taken me away from my regular peeps. I've worked with Swoosie Kurtz, which has been a highlight. I've also had some new powers to play with, which you'll see."

3.49pm: Zach Quinto: "I get to work with Greg Grunberg a lot, which is really fun. Also I got to work with a baby. The baby was really good at crying and it was fun to have to relate to that in a scene. Also I got to climb up out of a grave."

3.52pm: Milo: "I got to work with Jack Coleman, and it's been a while. We get reunited for some chicanary. Robert Knepper and I have got to do some work, and also Ray Park - I geeked out the first time I met him, because he's legendary."

3.53pm: Knepper: "It looks like Samuel's going to have scenes with all the heroes, and scenes which are bringing out all the vulnerable sides of them."

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looks like Hiro is not long for this world!

[Rappy Veteran]

3.55pm: Ray Park, a wonderfully-spoken British gentleman, enthuses about how much he enjoys working on the show. "I've always wanted to run away and join the circus, so I get to do it!"

3.56pm: Madeline says she got to do a scene with HRG. "He's scary, because he kills a fly with one hand."

3.57pm: Hayden is asked what she thinks Claire's worst injury was. "I think the worst was the burn. It took five hours in makeup. Burnt to a crisp. Toasty Claire!"

3.59pm: Zach is asked who would win - Spock vs Sylar. "In the end, I think Spock would have to take it. Only because he is fighting for good, and I think ultimately that will always win." Ahhhh, what a nice boy.

4.00pm: Jack Coleman jokes about HRG's lack of abilities: "I have the power of impaired vision."

[Rappy Veteran]

4.02pm: Questions from the audience. A girl lays compliments on ZQ then goes on a very long convoluted rant about what has happened to Nathan's soul. "If all of your sense of self and being is removed from the equation, where does that leave you?" he answers. Hmm.

4.03pm: Another question, about characters that haven't had a fair share of attention - such as Mohinder. "We're going to be telling less stories per episode," says Tim. "The idea is to tell deeper stories but not as wide stories. It's always been a juggling act with a show like this because it's always been a large cast. We don't have quite as much bouncing around this season as we did in the past."

4.05pm: Zach is asked if his new production company will affect his time on Heroes. He says no. "I'll be available."

4.06pm: A very sweet-sounding boy propositions Hayden. "When this is adjourned, you can meet me over there," she replies. Jack Coleman warns the boy not to try any funny business.

4.07pm: Tim Kring is asked about diversity: "We always try to be as diverse as possible. Characters obviously come and go, but it's a continuing thing that we try to fulfil for the audience. Stay tuned and you'll see some really cool casting in that area."

4.09pm: Tim is asked if we'll ever hear about the fates of Caitlin or West. He replies: "In this volume we have no plans to hear about Caitlin or West."

4.10pm: Milo is asked if he's going to "kick any ass" this season. "There is something interesting that he gets to experience this year. A little dance number, we're calling it, with Ray Park." Promptly we are treated to a clip. Edgar approaches HRG with a knife but then Peter arrives and intervenes. Edgar keeps throwing knives but Peter catches them. They then enjoy a high-speed knife fight, before Edgar takes off.

4.12pm: ... and the panel is through! Stay tuned to Tube Talk for more Comic-Con coverage shortly!

[Pretend]

[Rappy Veteran]

[sundayx Veteran]

You don't need flash. Just sayin'.

[SuperJediMedia]

But No video?

'Darth Maul' RULES!!!

[Pretend]

It was a meeting of the superpowers as nearly the full cast of Heroes assembled at Comic-Con to kick off Volume 5: Redemption. The question--unasked and unanswered by the panelists--in most everyone's minds is whether returning show runner Tim Kring can indeed redeem the series for many disenchanted viewers.

The audience response to the debut of the season-four preview was mixed, but the camaraderie shared by Kring & Co. (with two notable exceptions) was infectious. Obviously you want to hear all about it, so shape-shift yourself on in here...

Panel Highlights

Is anything more appropriate for the intermission of a Heroes event than Oingo Boingo's "Gray Matter"? (We suspect happy coincidence since the sound engineer expressed a fondness for Boingo and Depeche Mode, but props all the same.)

Our G4 sister Blair Brown was a most excellent moderator.

Jack Coleman (HRG) has been hiding a Gold's Gym body beneath his character's boring business attire. Mee-yow! And he's hilarious. He said his favorite scene to film so far this season "involves a car and water, two things we know from Chappaquiddick that we know should never mix."

Zachary Quinto. Is it necessary to say more? OK, we'll play nice and share some of his gems. One of his fave scenes? "I got to work with a baby. It was really fun. The baby was really good at crying."

And when a fan whether Spock or Sylar would win a fight, the Z man answered: "Spock would have to take it, because he's ultimately fighting for good. And I believe good will always win." But in the ultimate Spock vs. Spock challenge, though, he gives the victory to his elder: "Leonard would drop me in one round."

Hayden Panettiere's eye-rolling and expressions of disdain expressions whenever the focus shifted to her ex Milo Ventimiglia? Awkward...but awfully entertaining.

The Other Stuff

The world premiere of the new season preview was heavily promoted as offering Comic-Con attendees an "exclusive first look at Redemption"--so why did so much of it seem so...familiar? For the benefit of the doubt, we shall interpret the following as homages. You can judge for yourself:

Homage to The Matrix: Maybe slo-mo, stop-action, double-speed is the only way to show Peter Petrelli's kung fu knife fight with new speedster Hero Edgar (Ray Park), a carnival knife thrower.

Circus, Circus: And then there's your homage to HBO's Carniv?le: Explains Kring, "We're creating a new wrinkle in the mythology of the show. Alongside [our Heroes], there was another group, this family who had powers, who could live among us and hide in plain sight." Ta-da!

The Magic Compass: From what we saw of the carnival culture and some mysterious tattoos, a certain compass is apparently going to play an important role in the show's wrinkled mythology. Is this an homage to Phillip Pullman's The Golden Compass fantasy book and/or its recent movie adaptation? Hmmm...

Girl-on-Girl Action: Claire goes to college and finds a BFF (Californication's Madeline Zima)...or, as Hayden describes their relationship, a "friend with privileges." Aw. Can one even call this kind of generic ratings spiker an homage?

A Wrinkle in Time: Oh dear. Masi Oka shared some bad news for nonfans of time travel. "We see time traveling a lot more [this season]," he said. "His redemption is going back in time and fixing things he's done wrong. He has kind of a bucket list. He wants to make amends." Hilarity (or something) must surely ensue when, at the carnival (where else?), Hiro encounters...young Hiro!

My goodness! These powers really just complicate life, don't they? At least HRG can stay grounded, even though he jokingly bemoans his character's deficit: "I only have one power. It is the power of impaired vision."

Is this an unintentional metaphor...or does Tim Kring really see a better future for the series?

[Rappy Veteran]

But No video?

'Darth Maul' RULES!!!

I hope we can see the sneak peek with edgar it sounded immense

[Rappy Veteran]

[Pretend]

Is that Madeline Zima beside her? If so she's looking crap :o

[Rappy Veteran]

Yeah it looks like her! :|

[Brendando]

High speed knife fight? Badass. Badass x2 with Mr.Park on the scene as well :D.

[Pretend]

Comic Con Panel Vids

[Rappy Veteran]

High speed knife fight? Badass. Badass x2 with Mr.Park on the scene as well :D.

hells yeah! Ray Park is a legend!

[SuperJediMedia]

Only Smallville gets a Leaked Trailer?

[Rappy Veteran]

Only Smallville gets a Leaked Trailer?

There is a trailer a few pages back that was shown on the screens, the only thing not shared is the scene between Peter and Edgar

[SuperJediMedia]

Oh!