Ridley Scotts "Prometheus" (2012)

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What was the point of Charlize Theron and her

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in the movie? The movies could have been done without them both.

I think they were pretty essential to the film and the Alien universe as they explain how Weyland Corporation got involved in the first place and demonstrated how ruthless the corporation is. Without them a significant aspect of the storyline would be missing.

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I loved this film after seeing a different sort of film Avengers which I also loved. This film was visually beautiful like Avatar and it made you think, a lot of people are complaining about that but I like it. The same sort of style as Inception where it might take another viewing to get the full view because you could miss something very small which has a big effect.

I clearly think that this film needs to be continued to really answer why some of the engineers died 2000 years ago (accident?). Why was the ship heading to Earth with the black fluid which seems to turn people into Zombies with the intention to infect people with the squid thing which then has the ability to get somebody and create one of the Xenomorph ancestor Queen thing's. But unlike something like Battleship, I like the questions that need to be asked which for me increases the appeal of the film like Inception because I can watch it again and again.

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I loved this film after seeing a different sort of film Avengers which I also loved. This film was visually beautiful like Avatar and it made you think, a lot of people are complaining about that but I like it. The same sort of style as Inception where it might take another viewing to get the full view because you could miss something very small which has a big effect.

I clearly think that this film needs to be continued to really answer why some of the engineers died 2000 years ago (accident?). Why was the ship heading to Earth with the black fluid which seems to turn people into Zombies with the intention to infect people with the squid thing which then has the ability to get somebody and create one of the Xenomorph ancestor Queen thing's. But unlike something like Battleship, I like the questions that need to be asked which for me increases the appeal of the film like Inception because I can watch it again and again.

It didn't turn people into zombies, the black stuff was obviously a lifeform. You saw the small maggot like things at the beginning, they were taken over by the "ooze" and turned into the snake-like creatures. When the black stuff touched the humans it took them over, trying to create a new lifeform. The whole place was a bio-engineering "farm" which is why any lifeform that entered it ended up being changed in some way. If there is to be a sequel then I would presume it would answer the question why our progenitors, as the huge "people" seemed to be (but we weren't told for sure that this is what they were, only that their dna was identical to ours), were so intent on destruction and creating the ultimate bio-weapon.

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I'm sure most have covered the poplar questions. Im curious about how many Aliens (None Human Species) there are ? The Worms, The Engineer, The Black Goo and also the helmets the engineer wear, is this another alien species as this seems to be biological too and why aren't they covered in more detail as its the first discovery by humans. What was the purpose of David infecting the Humans, or did he have a change of conscious ( A Human feeling ) as he helped out at the end or is he also on a mission. Why was the RARE biological pod there, It was set to Male was it there for Mr Wayland or to host / fix an alien ? What does she hope to achieve by going along to a distant planet?

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I think the biggest disappointment for me was the fact that the Space Jockey died in the hallway when we quite clearly saw him in Alien sitting in the seat of the gun/telescope/whatever it's meant to be (possibly a gun that shoots off those capsules into a planet's atmosphere).

I'm guessing Weyland was there looking for the "fountain of youth", some kind of "I want to live forever" cure. Obviously the whole film is about gods and men, he wanted to become a god, David was trying to be a man (Peter O'Toole in Lawrence of Arabia), the 2 scientists were trying to find their "creator", we find out that Weyland is Meredith Vickers' dad (aka creator).

For all these fancy themes though I was disappointed that the film, in the end, basically becomes a monster movie, albeit a loftier one than most.

Also, how the hell did she manage to do all that jumping about and heroics after just having major abdominal surgery which would take anyone weeks to months to recover from?

Did anyone else get the feeling that the film closely follows the same story arcs as the original Alien?

Last words...honest...why the HELL do none of these people have the good sense that god (or some gigantic alien :p ) gave them? They mess about with things that look like gnarly poisonous snakes, they take off their helmets in completely alien environments which they know nothing about, they deserved everything they got to be honest

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Yes, so have I, lol. I just mean that one shouldn't go into it expecting an Alien film with those "monsters".

Maybe not those exact "monsters" but there is a chestburster of sorts, there are also at least 2 facehuggers, even if one of them is the "mother of all facehuggers" lol ..and then, of course, there's the triumphant birth of the Alien species we all know and love at the end, even if it didn't have the "tongue"

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I've not seen this yet but one of my colleagues described it and all I said was "it sounds like Lost." ... and now I hear it's written by some of the same people? Great. :/ So it's predictable then.

I'm disappointed.. but I guess I'll have to go and see it first. Not sure if it's gonna be worth my money though...

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The Planet is different, LV 223 is Prometheus , LV-426 is Aliens, I only know because I goggled.

I didn't think they were planets though. I thought the movie stated they were moons?

I've not seen this yet but one of my colleagues described it and all I said was "it sounds like Lost." ... and now I hear it's written by some of the same people? Great. :/ So it's predictable then.

I'm disappointed.. but I guess I'll have to go and see it first. Not sure if it's gonna be worth my money though...

Lost? How is it anything like Lost? It is part of the Alien franchise. Damon Lindelof, who co-created Lost, was a co-writer of the film, but I never got anything from Lost out of this film.

If you're going to write this off simply because it has one of the writers from Lost on it, you should also write off the rebooted Star Trek and its upcoming sequel too. Both of which, are directed by J.J. Abrams and the sequel being co-written by Damon Lindelof (along with two Fringe writers).

Don't be disappointed until you see it for yourself. I've never understand taking someone else's word for something. Can't we think for ourselves? :/

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PsYcHoKiLLa

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Hope you Mercuns enjoy it :)

If you're going to write this off simply because it has one of the writers from Lost on it, you should also write off the rebooted Star Trek and its upcoming sequel too. Both of which, are directed by J.J. Abrams and the sequel being co-written by Damon Lindelof (along with two Fringe writers).

It's also written by Jon Spaihts and Damon Lindelof, I'm sure I also saw a written by credit for Ridley Scott himself, I was surprised to see it was produced by him so he really went for this in a big way, including pumping his own money into it.

Also....for anyone who has already seen it...

Did anyone else think the eventual reveal of the aliens we know and love looked more like this from beelejuice (The one on the left) :) than one of the original aliens :

http://1.media.colle...99432a207cd.jpg

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shakey

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Hope you Mercuns enjoy it :)

It's also written by Jon Spaihts and Damon Lindelof, I'm sure I also saw a written by credit for Ridley Scott himself, I was surprised to see it was produced by him so he really went for this in a big way, including pumping his own money into it.

Also....for anyone who has already seen it...

Did anyone else think the eventual reveal of the aliens we know and love looked more like this from beelejuice (The one on the left) :) than one of the original aliens :

http://1.media.colle...99432a207cd.jpg

The aliens take over the look of whatever their host was, in some fashion. Maybe that's what that planets inhabitants looked like....

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Saw it tonight with a buddy who is also a big 'Alien' fan...and we were left dumbfounded. I mean, really? They couldn't even get the name of the planet right?

The ending scene felt so forced as well because in 'Alien', Dallas and the crew find the exoskeleton IN THE DAMN BIG CHAIR will a hole in the stomach; obviously couldn't happen when the Engineer made it over to the other ship to attack the doctor.

Calling this a prequel is stretching it, in my opinion.

I wanted to find out how the distress signal the Nostromo picked up was initiated, I wanted to know who the hell was actually in the chair, and I mostly wanted to know where Mother came from and what its purpose was.

What made 'Alien' and 'Aliens' so good was that they were not trying to force some ideology on you but still left you with questions and doubts about higher beings, not to mention it had great action and a kick-your-ass mentality. 'Prometheus' was the exact opposite; it felt soft and very forced. If it were its own movie with no pretense behind it, I probably would have enjoyed it more.

Stringer Bell (the captain for the non-Wire fans) was awesome, loved the little moment between he and Charlize Theron.

For those interested: http://screenrant.com/prometheus-alien-connection-benk-176223/2/ Some compelling theories connecting the films.

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Saw it tonight with a buddy who is also a big 'Alien' fan...and we were left dumbfounded. I mean, really? They couldn't even get the name of the planet right?

The ending scene felt so forced as well because in 'Alien', Dallas and the crew find the exoskeleton IN THE DAMN BIG CHAIR will a hole in the stomach; obviously couldn't happen when the Engineer made it over to the other ship to attack the doctor.

Calling this a prequel is stretching it, in my opinion.

I wanted to find out how the distress signal the Nostromo picked up was initiated, I wanted to know who the hell was actually in the chair, and I mostly wanted to know where Mother came from and what its purpose was.

What made 'Alien' and 'Aliens' so good was that they were not trying to force some ideology on you but still left you with questions and doubts about higher beings, not to mention it had great action and a kick-your-ass mentality. 'Prometheus' was the exact opposite; it felt soft and very forced. If it were its own movie with no pretense behind it, I probably would have enjoyed it more.

Stringer Bell (the captain for the non-Wire fans) was awesome, loved the little moment between he and Charlize Theron.

For those interested: http://screenrant.co...-benk-176223/2/ Some compelling theories connecting the films.

I assume you mean because it takes place on LV-223 or whatever, a moon that isn't LV-426? I think the ending is pretty simple to explain away (other than they wanted to set up an eventual sequel that would explain alot more) that the SJ you see in the end get killed, isn't the SJ we see in Alien that the Nostromo crew finds.

And since the distress beacon wasn't activated one can assume something else triggers it, or someone else triggers it. And Mother? Mother is just the AI computer brain, I don't think that has to be explained really? Other than it is programmed by Weyland-Yutani and finds the crew expendable.

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Lamp0

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@mattmatik,

LOL!

err... It's supposed to be a different planet, a different engineer & a different ship.

I think the biggest disappointment for me was the fact that the Space Jockey died in the hallway when we quite clearly saw him in Alien sitting in the seat of the gun/telescope/whatever it's meant to be (possibly a gun that shoots off those capsules into a planet's atmosphere).

Again, different planet, a different engineer & a different ship

I don't know how some people didn't get that...

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