Vista looks better than win 7

[Owen W Veteran]

This thread has just gotten so rediculous now.

[Raa]

This thread has just gotten so rediculous now.

Then why resurrect it?

[Dashel]

I generally agree with most of the items in your list. Two steps forward, one back.

[kylejn]

oops I meant "Vista looks better THAN Win7"

Don't get me wrong, win7 is fast stable and reliable...no question it's better...but cosmetically, I'm afraid it's not.

People are not going to be able to tell this is a new version of windows, as it looks way too much like Vista. They may just not upgrade thinking its just vista, and vista has a bad rep.

But in cosmetic dept.

These are the things I prefer in Vista.

-Fade in into the login screen - not in win7 it just abruptly pop-ups after boot screen ? not very elegant.

Never noticed it. Don't particularly care as I skip the login screen.

-Toolbar is plain looking in win7 with no icons - this looked much better in vista.

I much prefer the Windows 7 taskbar. I love clean and minimal interfaces.

-Start orb glow in win7 looks odd

Not really, but I'm using 7000. I know they changed it a bit in later builds, though.

-Transparency when window is maximized does not look good at all ? should be black like in vista. Same with the taskbar.

Have to absolutely disagree with you here. The black in Vista really turned me off. I really, really hated it.

-Default background for login and installation ? it?s nice and all ? a little feminine looking but it really does not make the login screen look good or modern. And the white font ?windows 7 ultimate? at the bottom blend in too much with the background.

Don't know what you're referring to, sorry.

-The animations while coping or moving or deleting files is pretty ugly and looked better in Vista.

The animations are fine, IMHO.

That?s about it.

But although I love Win 7 so much more than Vista (win 7 screams) cosmetically win7 seems unfinished.

Edit - I would like to add the following.

--The boot screen in Win7 - is leaps and bounds better than Vista. It's hard to explain, but I get the sense that it's modern/futuristic and a look (peek) into what is coming for Win7

OK.

You're entitled to your opinion, but I think the Windows 7 GUI is leaps and bounds better than the Vista GUI.

[Cool Hand Luke]

Vista is the ugly shell and Windows 7 is the beautiful colorful butterfly that emerged from that ugly shell....

[a2593r]

To a slight, slight degree I agree with the OP, but If Microsoft keeps the skin the way it is, ill be very happy.

And there isnt anything stopping them creating a new skin (not GUI), why dont they make it slightly less blue? And change the fish wallpaper haha.

[ViperAFK]

they hardly look different at all, I find it a ridiculous that someone can even think that vista is ugly and 7 looks great. 7 has some good changes but they look EXTREMELY similar.

[Minifig]

This thread is going in circles.

I think this is what the original poster wanted. Just to get us all worked up so we'd have something to debate.

Why do even bother continuing to feed the troll's hunger?

[Lt-DavidW]

I agree that the GUI could definitely be tweaked.

For example, the excessive padding space around the Start Menu search box.

[ToneKnee]

Black Viper is your friend...!

Please don't bring Black Vipers guide into all of this. How Windows 7 handles it's services is different from Vista or XP.

Windows 7 uses "triggers" to start services only when you need them. Disabling loads of services makes little to no difference and you are only crippling Windows 7's features by doing so.

Also to add onto my post. While the argument that Windows 7 doesn't look much different from Vista, Windows 98 didn't look more different than Windows 95, Windows 98SE didn't look much different than Windows 98FE, Windows ME didn't look much different than Windows 98SE and Windows 2000 didn't look much different than Windows ME, 98FE/SE or Windows 95, but at the end of the day is, they were different, not visually, but under the hood, they were.

If anything, the one version of Windows which does look out of place is XP with it's stupid blue/silver/olive green/zune/royale themes.

[Ricardo Gil]

Please don't bring Black Vipers guide into all of this. How Windows 7 handles it's services is different from Vista or XP.

Windows 7 uses "triggers" to start services only when you need them. Disabling loads of services makes little to no difference and you are only crippling Windows 7's features by doing so.

Also to add onto my post. While the argument that Windows 7 doesn't look much different from Vista, Windows 98 didn't look more different than Windows 95, Windows 98SE didn't look much different than Windows 98FE, Windows ME didn't look much different than Windows 98SE and Windows 2000 didn't look much different than Windows ME, 98FE/SE or Windows 95, but at the end of the day is, they were different, not visually, but under the hood, they were.

If anything, the one version of Windows which does look out of place is XP with it's stupid blue/silver/olive green/zune/royale themes.

Using the classic theme all of them look like W98, with the blue gradient bar... oh, and Royale rules :p

[atleeit]

oops I meant "Vista looks better THAN Win7"

Don't get me wrong, win7 is fast stable and reliable...no question it's better...but cosmetically, I'm afraid it's not.

People are not going to be able to tell this is a new version of windows, as it looks way too much like Vista. They may just not upgrade thinking its just vista, and vista has a bad rep.

But in cosmetic dept.

These are the things I prefer in Vista.

-Fade in into the login screen - not in win7 it just abruptly pop-ups after boot screen ? not very elegant.

-Toolbar is plain looking in win7 with no icons - this looked much better in vista.

-Start orb glow in win7 looks odd

-Transparency when window is maximized does not look good at all ? should be black like in vista. Same with the taskbar.

-Default background for login and installation ? it?s nice and all ? a little feminine looking but it really does not make the login screen look good or modern. And the white font ?windows 7 ultimate? at the bottom blend in too much with the background.

-The animations while coping or moving or deleting files is pretty ugly and looked better in Vista.

That?s about it.

But although I love Win 7 so much more than Vista (win 7 screams) cosmetically win7 seems unfinished.

Edit - I would like to add the following.

--The boot screen in Win7 - is leaps and bounds better than Vista. It's hard to explain, but I get the sense that it's modern/futuristic and a look (peek) into what is coming for Win7

Windows 7 has a newer appearence with how you deal with things, also you just have to think that Windows 7 isn't finished and Vista is now upto SP2 RTM.

[dingl_]

wow OP is on glue lol :D

Windows 7 got it right this time around in terms of UI, i liked it since beta and its ever so slightly more refined now... in fact awhile back when i was still using XP (i use Vista as my primary atm) i wanted XP to look like Windows 7 does today, believe it or not

i can't even go back to using Vistas default theme now, i'd prob be angry all the time haha, instead i use http://giannisgx89.deviantart.com/

this guys 'Windows 7 Style for Vista'

[bbfc_uk]

Like i've said, Vista's UI was great but Windows 7 builds on this and makes it more refined, more snappier and more efficient. Looking at XP now (after using Vista/7) its just so archaic, so inefficient and even more important, UGLY!

[Solid Knight]

I wonder if Windows 7 will be the Windows Vista killer.

[bbfc_uk]

I wonder if Windows 7 will be the Windows Vista killer.

No doubt about it.

[Eric Veteran]

To a slight, slight degree I agree with the OP, but If Microsoft keeps the skin the way it is, ill be very happy.

And there isnt anything stopping them creating a new skin (not GUI), why dont they make it slightly less blue? And change the fish wallpaper haha.

The fish is a Betta. It's just a pun. :) I'm sure it'll be gone for RTM.

[SkyDX]

Well well I also want to throw in my honest opinion, Win 7 looks waay better then Vista.

I'm a user that customizes his Windows to no end and goes for eyecandy to the max. I love changing every part of an OS to make it look like I want and the default Windows UIs where always plain boring for me. Yeah sure XPs Luna finally made Windows stop looking like a gray something but in exchange it felt a little like some child toy.

When I installed Vista Beta 2 I was overwhelmed at first by the beauty and freshness of AERO but soon I realized there was still a bit of a XPs/98s feeling in it after it went RTM. Sorry I can't point my finger on it, it's just a feeling I have when I use Vista. Also I never liked this greenish color Vista had, of course different people like different colors but this color which could not decide if it was green or blue together with that babyblue at most places and the black maximized Windows quickly became annoying for me.

So now we are at Win7... when I first booted build 7000 I was like... wow..... this looks like Vista but it's so pretty from start to end. (Not to mention the bootscreen) No more annoying colors or black stuff, just a 100% modern looking, for the most part consistent AERO UI. I don't even felt like customizing it much, it was the first default Computer UI which I was happy with. And that comes from someone who used everything from Win98 upwards, Linux and OSX. I can't even sense a bit of this Win98/XP feeling for the most time, just in some rare places like Device Manager.

It's really as someone said here before, Vistas UI was a cocoon and 7s UI is the beautiful butterfly that evolved from it.

The only things I would like to see change in RTM are the removal of the few remaining things that where 1:1 taken over from Vista like the Close, Maximize and Minimize buttons, a fresh soundset along with a fresh iconset to shake off the last bit of old Vistaness.

Now for the OP (man this is the longest post I've ever written^^):

- I agree the fade on login was nice.

- I think the text toolbar blends well with the rest of the UI but it should be the users choice.

- I disagree, the start glow fits just fine.

- The black maximized borders where just a horrible distraction if you switched to fullscreen.

- What about it is feminine? I think it has a nice fresh look to it. (It's the same with the color pink... everyone thinks pink is a girls color whilst it is a totally normal color like blue, yellow etc. just our society taught us pink = girl)

- Ummm the animations look the same it's just they changed it to a matching color oO

Conclusion, as said Win7 has the most polished default UI I've ever seen and is by no means unfinished.

The last thing I want to talk about, I think most people just talk bad about new UIs because ever since Win95 they are used to how Windows works since the most basic things never changed and whenever some radical UI changes are introduced like the Ribbon UI people have to relearn everything because what they know does not apply anymore.

Whilst I agree this can be tough for companies and such I believe that exploring a new OS can be quite a fun thing for a normal user.

When I first used Office 2007 I almost found nothing. But I didn't accursed Microsoft and their damn new Ribbon UI, I just threw most things I knew about Office out of the window and started to discover the new Ribbon UI. After a very short amount of time I was able to use office as fast as before if not faster.

Same with Win7, out of my habit I clicked on the last point in the context menu to access screen resolutions which lead me to Personalize.

I was a bit like... umm... okay... then looked again and found it instantly. I wont blame and say Microsoft put it back where it was, I just will adapt. Technological innovations and evolution cannot happen if the users aren't willing to evolve and adapt themselves.

I believe that's a major point of Microsoft why they don't want to make a total revolution of Windows, they are scared that the userbase isn't willing to adept a learn from anew.

But if people hadn't done this in the past we would maybe still use text based OSs like DOS, I mean Bill Gates didn't said "Oh making a Graphical User Interface for PCs wont work out, people are used to text based input and a scared of new things..."

There ends my longest post ever, and remember it's all my personal opinion ;)

Oh and how would I get this small "quicklaunch thingy"?

Edited May 5, 2009 by SkyDX

[Descartes]

Vista's UI was too inconsistent - every system app looked different, had a different colour scheme, like toolbars (Mail, Explorer, Media Player - for the closest example). Windows 7 has this feel of being solid.