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So I finally successfully completed 2 whole campaigns last night. In previous efforts I always seem to find myself being left behind or killed during the extraction parts.

Damn do I love this game. It really does feel harder than the first, and the campaigns seem a lot longer than the first game. Campaigns used to take me a half hour to 45 minutes to complete with the first game, and last night it took over 2 hours to complete each campaign. And we played them on "normal!"

I also enjoy the fact that the story is a lot more solid compared to the first game. Cannot wait to go through the other campaigns.

So since I do not have the game for the 360 and have it on the PC have not had all that many people to check it out with when I have been able to hop on my PC. Well last night I decided to just play with some randoms, and man now I remember why I loved PC gaming so much. Every single guy I played with was incredibly cool, communicating the entire time, giving heads up as to when they found items, we even got the Gnome achievement no issues at all working together.

So gonna wind up just playing with randoms some more and see if my good experience continues, but I was so pleasantly surprised last night, consoles have made me just expect that at least 50% of the people I am playing with to be *******s, and I had a nice reminder last night that is not always the case.

I've been having such a hard time with the gnome chompsky achievement. Does the location change every time via AI director?

edit: HOLY CRAP! just found out how to get the achievement and it seems damn near impossible. Looks like I'll be playing that campaign on easy

Hey guys, I just found this, though some of you may want to enter. Heavy.com is giving away one copy of Left 4 Dead 2 for system of your choice (XBOX 360, PS 3 or PC). All you have to do is tell us in 140char or less why you deserve to win.

I already have the game, but i entered anyways, lol

http://www.heavy.com/specials/left-4-dead-2-free-giveaway

Anyways, good luck.

Just a question. I just sent in the order for L4D2, but right after doing that the demo disappeared off my games list. Did Steam automatically delete the demo files in my steamapps or steamapps\common folders or do I have to do it myself?

On the same topic, I was planning to wait until the end of next month to get the game, but after seeing almost like 80% of my online friends playing L4D2, I couldn't resist. :p

Also, getting the game off Steam: $53.52 CAD, if you're going by today's exchange rates.

Getting the game in-store: $67.79 CAD after taxes. :|

Just a question. I just sent in the order for L4D2, but right after doing that the demo disappeared off my games list. Did Steam automatically delete the demo files in my steamapps or steamapps\common folders or do I have to do it myself?

On the same topic, I was planning to wait until the end of next month to get the game, but after seeing almost like 80% of my online friends playing L4D2, I couldn't resist. :p

Also, getting the game off Steam: $53.52 CAD, if you're going by today's exchange rates.

Getting the game in-store: $67.79 CAD after taxes. :|

The demo was also removed off of my games list as well on the day of release, TBH I am not sure if it was removed off of my HDD itself, if you ever found out let me know as I am downstairs on my laptop but will try to check later when i get upstairs to my gaming PC.

I found just leftovers in steamapps\common\left 4 dead 2 demo; they didn't amount to much though.

Had my first versus game tonight; was pretty fun. The new infected are easy to manouever, maybe not so much for the jockey. Then I went offline and tried finishing a campaign, only to quit after failing at the finale because the game's AI characters are so damn stupid. :pinch: I get incapacitated by a witch, and what do they do? They cramp up behind a van and refuse to help, or they try to help but can't figure out how to step away from the van. In The Pariah, Coach wandered off and kept getting assaulted by common infected who knocked his health to red... all this to get a health pack to bring him back up to green. Lastly, Ellis or Nick kept falling off the bridge repeatedly.

do people think the game would be playable at 1280x720 with an ati 4550? the rest of my pc is decent spec (q6600, 2 gig ram)

I think it should handle it no problem at all.

I have a Nvidia GT 285 and I have literally every graphic setting as high as it possibly can be and at 1920 X 1080 resolution and it maintains 60 FPS 98% of the time. I have it forced to match my refresh rate hence the 60 fps, and the lowest I saw it ever go was 56 fps, and that was in the intense hotel fire with smoke everywhere.

My point being is the source engine has always been pretty damn optimized, and out of all recent games, Left 4 Dead 2 by far runs the best and most consistent for me. In comparison, when I run Modern Warfare 2 on the PC at same graphic settings, I have seen it go down to 30 FPS.

I tend to be obsessed with making sure I am getting high FPS, so I usually leave FRAPS running when I first play a game to make sure I am getting the best performance I can.

And okay, I was about to post the above but then just took it one step further for you, I checked it out on my laptop, which has a Nvidia Mobile GT 130M, and @ 1280 x 720 I was averaging between about 45-50 FPS, and that was with a whole lot of stuff going on not just standing there doing nothing, so yeah, I think you should definitely be able to play it.

But just to be safe, why not download the demo first?

FYI, The midnight riders website (http://www.midnight-riders.com) has got stuff on it now! Its all entirely fictional, but it provides some random background to the characters in the game! :p (Shout out to The Dark Wanderer for noticing this before me!)

I have had some problems with the game minimizing to desktop after about 30 seconds of play. All I have to do is maximize the window and everything returns to normal, but it is still quite annoying.

FYI, The midnight riders website (http://www.midnight-riders.com) has got stuff on it now! Its all entirely fictional, but it provides some random background to the characters in the game! :p (Shout out to The Dark Wanderer for noticing this before me!)

I am a sucker for tee shirts and for $20 that shirt on their site is kick ass. LOL

That Youtube video on the last page is awesome. I guess they didn't focus much attention on bot AI ;)

I actually didn't buy Left 4 Dead 1 at all (was too consumed in other games), so I'm thinking that L4D2 should be a pretty fresh experience for me, and I won't need to worry about the common criticisms that the game seems to be getting (too similar to the first one, etc.). After reading the article that Ars did, I definitely think I'll be getting this on PC as opposed to the 360.

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