Gran Turismo 5 to Be Previewed in OPM UK Next Month

[Boz]

There are many winds blowing in the air right now, and every one of them is telling its own tale.

First wind whispers that final reunion will happen thirty nights before twelve months pass and that all winds from the whole world will reunite in the same moment for the first time.

Second wind says there will be more than half of dozen hundreds birds flying in the beginning of the reunion on almost eight dozen of skypaths, and some of the birds will come from the past reunion just resembling the looks of the newborn birds.

Third tale says that for the first time ever skypaths will not be just solid and already known but that new skypaths will be built by birdtamers from the parts of existing skypaths.

Fourth wind is talking that birdtamers will reunite in numbers greater than ever and will be granted with ability to talk to each other, make guilds and alliances with undisputed freedom.

Fifth wind says that reunion will happen in two forms, one greater than other and birdtamers will have freedom to decide which reunion they will attend. Greater reunion will ask for great sacrifice to be made in order to get all present and future treasures without new sacrifices needed, while smaller reunion will come in form already known, asking for more sacrifices if future treasures catches the eyes of the birdtamers.

Sixth wind is telling the tale about different reunion but almost the same as known one, smaller only for the eyes of those who do not want to see it in its whole glory. That different reunion will not happen in the realm same as the known one, but in the different realm which still has not been uncovered to the birdtamers. That realm will resemble realm already known but it will be divine new and made in the image of it.

Gran Turismo for the new PSP Go will become Gran Turismo Mobile

All those birds, skypaths and birdtamers from all realms will unite for the Feast. And as it is already known, it will be the Feast of the Gods.

I'm not sure but people trust this guy as an insider from Sony or PD and he tells this poem or whatever you want to call it about GT5 release date and features. If you can decipher I'll give you a candy? ;) It's fairly obvious though what it says though.

[AbandonedTrolley]

Well one would think that it's 30 days before the end of year, which would give early December release date, which makes it quite possible that Play.com have a correct day :)

[Boz]

Well one would think that it's 30 days before the end of year, which would give early December release date, which makes it quite possible that Play.com have a correct day :)

So how is it that you have such solid dates that are 09/25 then.

Here I'll try to explain it that makes more sense to me.

There are many winds blowing in the air right now, and every one of them is telling its own tale.

The are many information in the air right now and every one is claiming it's own story.

First wind whispers that final reunion will happen thirty nights before twelve months pass and that all winds from the whole world will reunite in the same moment for the first time.

First announcement of GT5 tells us that release of GT5 will happen 30 nights before 12 months expires from the first announcement of GT5 for PS3 (that's E3 2009) and the release will be simultaneous around the world at the same time. This means that it is 11 months from the E3 announcement. Which does indeed fall in May 2010. Some people say that it's March 2010 because this "poem" was made on April 18th and they thought it was 11 months from that date but whispers clearly means announcement.

Second wind says there will be more than half of dozen hundreds birds flying in the beginning of the reunion on almost eight dozen of skypaths, and some of the birds will come from the past reunion just resembling the looks of the newborn birds.

Second information tells us the story that 600 cars will be present in GT5 at the release date (but more will be available after the release - DLC style) and 96 tracks and that some tracks will come from the previous GT game just polished up and improved.

Third tale says that for the first time ever skypaths will not be just solid and already known but that new skypaths will be built by birdtamers from the parts of existing skypaths.

Third information tells that for the first time in Gran Turismo tracks will not be fixed but that users will be able to custom make tracks from existing ones.

Fourth wind is talking that birdtamers will reunite in numbers greater than ever and will be granted with ability to talk to each other, make guilds and alliances with undisputed freedom.

Fourth story says that users will be able to play multiplayer in greater number then ever and will be given the ability to talk to each other, make races and alliances as they wish. Clans/race leagues or however you want to call it.

Fifth wind says that reunion will happen in two forms, one greater than other and birdtamers will have freedom to decide which reunion they will attend. Greater reunion will ask for great sacrifice to be made in order to get all present and future treasures without new sacrifices needed, while smaller reunion will come in form already known, asking for more sacrifices if future treasures catches the eyes of the birdtamers.

Fifth info says that release will happen in 2 ways, one bigger then the other and users will have an option to choose. This most likely means that GT5 will come in 2 versions. Standard with less features and Collectors Edition or similar that will have all tracks and features. Those who buy standard edition will most likely have to buy DLC like tracks or cars or whatever if they find value. The Collector's Edition probably won't have all of the additional cars but they will get it for free when it comes available. That's the sacrifice part. You will pay more money for collector's edition and won't get everything at once but will get it for free.

Sixth wind is telling the tale about different reunion but almost the same as known one, smaller only for the eyes of those who do not want to see it in its whole glory. That different reunion will not happen in the realm same as the known one, but in the different realm which still has not been uncovered to the birdtamers. That realm will resemble realm already known but it will be divine new and made in the image of it.

Sixth story tells us that there will be a way to get GT5 in another way that is outside the platform of GT5 for PS3 that is still unknown to users but at the moment this "poem" was made GT5 for PSP was a secret. This 6th story means GT5 for PSP and even though it won't be in the full glory and graphics and features as GT5 it will still be fantastic on it's own platform and it will resemble GT5 for PS3. It is quite possible that this could mean that GT5 PSP could work with GT5 PS3 and allow people to race (but this is not really a part of this statement). Later when GT5 PSP was revealed it says that GT5 PSP will become Gran Turismo Mobile.

All those birds, skypaths and birdtamers from all realms will unite for the Feast. And as it is already known, it will be the Feast of the Gods.

All the cars, tracks and users/racers from both GT5 PSP and GT5 PS3 will be able to race each other and it will be truly godly experience. (see my comment one line above).

;)

Edited June 20, 2009 by Boz

[Mike]

For the release date, it doesn't state when the 12 months start, logical one would be start of the year. "Whispers" is only mentioned once and it's part of the "The first accouncement..." part so there is no evidence to say that the 12 months count down starts then. Also, why would they say 30 days (1 month) before 12 months expire and not just say it's in 11 months?

[houlty]

Here I'll try to explain it that makes more sense to me.

that's the problem right there Boz, as what makes sense to you makes no sense to anybody else.

it's unbelievable how you twisted and turned that first wind to mean what you want it to mean... :no:

For the release date, it doesn't state when the 12 months start, logical one would be start of the year. "Whispers" is only mentioned once and it's part of the "The first announcement..." part so there is no evidence to say that the 12 months count down starts then. Also, why would they say 30 days (1 month) before 12 months expire and not just say it's in 11 months?

exactly... i was thinking the same about the twelve months too. it surely refers to a calendar year (jan-dec).

[Boz]

For the release date, it doesn't state when the 12 months start, logical one would be start of the year.

Not really IMO.. if they wanted to say 12 months from the beginning of the year they would've said it:

First wind says that final reunion will happen thirty nights before twelve months pass and that all winds from the whole world will reunite in the same moment for the first time.

This would clearly mean that it would be coming out at the 11th month of the year.

To me whispers clearly means announcement and GT5 was announced officially at E3. Teaser trailer or however you want to call it. That's a whisper.

Final Reunion is obviously final release date

all winds from the whole world - means all territories around the world

will reunite in the same moment for the first time. - this means that they will get all for the first time in history of GT releases the same date.

exactly... i was thinking the same about the twelve months too. it surely refers to a calendar year (jan-dec).

Based on what? I explained why I interpret it the way I do. Tell me, what does whisper stand for? It's just there for decoration?

[+Audioboxer Subscriber²]

Ugh guys those cryptic rumours were posted months ago! (march I think). Search this forum I made a topic about them. And Amar is the most respected informant for GT. He called GT psp months before e3 as we now know from those rumours.

Going from when the rumours were posted the release worked as either december or march.

[Boz]

that's the problem right there Boz, as what makes sense to you makes no sense to anybody else.

That's only problem for you. Grow up.

Ugh guys those cryptic rumours were posted months ago! Search this forum I made a topic about them. And Amar is the most respected informant for GT. He called GT psp months before e3 as we now know from those rumours.

Okay and? They were posted in late April before the announcements of GT5 PS3 and GT5 PSP. Obviously they will most likely turn out to be true.

[AbandonedTrolley]

So how is it that you have such solid dates that are 09/25 then.

play.com are stating that their release date is correct and has been confirmed. They have a release date of 27th November which makes it pretty close to 30 nights before 12 months pass.

[houlty]

To me whispers clearly means announcement and GT5 was announced officially at E3. Teaser trailer or however you want to call it. That's a whisper.

why do they CLEARLY mean announcements?? there's nothing clear about it... please explain in detail how you came to this conclusion.

Based on what? I explained why I interpret it the way I do. Tell me, what does whisper stand for? It's just there for decoration?

like Mike said, if it was 11 months away, why didn't they say 11 months. 12 months obviously has relevance, thus: 12 months = a year, a year = January to December. Simples.

That's only problem for you. Grow up.

i dont thinks it's just my problem from the sounds of it, but whatever.

also, before you start asking people to grow up, please read your own posts, they don't exactly exude maturity and logic.

[Boz]

Going from when the rumours were posted the release worked as either December or march.

I don't see any way of it coming out in December to be honest even if you go by 12 months from the date of the post. It still falls late march 2010. I don't know what was the reasoning behind December. Like 11 months and release is like Dec. 1st is that it? All responses pretty much said March 2010 or so, but I do think he was referring to the official announcement about GT5 for PS3 which was on E3.

I just don't really see how 09/25 would be then valid date, if you believe this guy.

But in any case, those features do sound cool if they are true.

[+Audioboxer Subscriber²]

Guys don't waste your time.

There are many winds blowing in the air right now, and every one of them is telling its own tale.

That was an introduction to the 6 "winds" posted below it yet Boz thought it was something that needs analysed...

His track record is probably worse than Pachters. That's not an insult, you do it to yourself making heavy handed predictions on Neowin all the time Boz. Saying things like you believe GT5 will have 12 cars on the track and run in 720p is part of what I'm talking about. It's not so much about an opinion, it's about making predictions frequently that go against all the evidence. How can you even predict GT5 will have only 12 cars/720p when prologue has 16 and runs in 1080p?

French OPM is out in 6 days, not long to wait.

Also Amar confirmed 6th wind himself

Sixth wind is telling the tale about different reunion but almost the same as known one, smaller only for the eyes of those who do not want to see it in its whole glory. That different reunion will not happen in the realm same as the known one, but in the different realm which still has not been uncovered to the birdtamers. That realm will resemble realm already known but it will be divine new and made in the image of it.

Gran Turismo for the new PSP Go will become Gran Turismo Mobile

Edited June 20, 2009 by Audioboxer

[Mike]

Based on what? I explained why I interpret it the way I do. Tell me, what does whisper stand for? It's just there for decoration?

whisper may stand for announcement but...

First wind whispers The first rumour/announcement...

that final reunion will happen ... the (final?) release will be...

thirty nights before twelve months pass ... 30 days before the 12 months (year) passes...

and that all winds from the whole world ... world wide ...

will reunite in the same moment for the first time. at the same time

So where do you get the 12 months will be after E3?

[houlty]

I don't see any way of it coming out in December to be honest even if you go by 12 months from the date of the post. It still falls late march 2010. I don't know what was the reasoning behind December. Like 11 months and release is like Dec. 1st is that it? All responses pretty much said March 2010 or so, but I do think he was referring to the official announcement about GT5 for PS3 which was on E3.

I just don't really see how 09/25 would be then valid date, if you believe this guy.

But in any case, those features do sound cool if they are true.

whose saying 09/25? sure that what sites used as placeholders... AB posted earlier it's now 27th Nov according to PLay.com.

[Boz]

i dont thinks it's just my problem from the sounds of it, but whatever.

also, before you start asking people to grow up, please read your own posts, they don't exactly exude maturity and logic.

Actually you should do that... My post was about features of the GT5 and your post was deciphering how I'm talking nonsense and I'm always wrong and literally how you know what everyone knows and I'm the only one who doesn't have a clue.

Don't you see what the problem is and who's posts are immature? So my logic is off the whack and I'm stupid and you are simply Einstein. Great. Please control your responses and discuss information instead of discussing my logic.

[houlty]

Actually you should do that... My post was about features of the GT5 and your post was deciphering how I'm talking nonsense and I'm always wrong and literally how you know what everyone knows and I'm the only one who doesn't have a clue.

Don't you see what the problem is and who's posts are immature?

Me and mine?

[houlty]

Please control your responses and discuss information instead of discussing my logic.

Boz, seriously for a second, how can I respond to your posts without making point of your logic? all of your "facts" and opinions are products of your logic. i disagree with pretty much everything you said (which has been explained why in previous posts by me and others), but you seem to ignore everybody else's logic and only trust your own.

you never concede your arguments are sometimes weak, wrong, or even could be wrong. and imply that everybody else's arguments are wrong.

[Boz]

Guys don't waste your time.

His track record is probably worse than Pachters. That's not an insult, you do it to yourself making heavy handed predictions on Neowin all the time Boz. Saying things like you believe GT5 will have 12 cars on the track and run in 720p is part of what I'm talking about. It's not so much about an opinion, it's about making predictions frequently that go against all the evidence. How can you even predict GT5 will have only 12 cars/720p when prologue has 16 and runs in 1080p?

French OPM is out in 6 days, not long to wait.

I didn't claim it would run in 720p. I said I doubt they would be able to pull it out at 1080p at 60fps and that it might be likely to run at 720p. I don't know if it will run at 720p or 1080p. If they manage to do it at 1080p/60fps hats off to them considering they have to add damage and all other things they were noting.

I don't make definite predictions as if I know something others don't, and if I did I did it maybe once or twice (and mostly because I did have first hand info but turned out to be changed or something happened that I really didn't have any influence over). This was mostly about HD DVD and Blu-ray and the source was VP of Warner Brothers Home Entertainment division because I did a lot of work with them. Turned out they made arrangement on the same day and the situation turned out the way it turned out. I speculate just like anyone else. Doesn't make it true. It's an opinion. The fact that you might disagree or if I turned out to be wrong nothing to it. No? I'm sure you made predictions from the information you read and were wrong. This is not exclusive to me.

The reason I said 12 cars was because they've shown in the E3 video 12 cars and the screenshot you shown in the other topic had 12/12 cars. Is it possible that it might have more cars. Of course, I was just commenting based on the information I saw. Again, just an opinion.

GT5 Prologue did have 16 cars but GT5 Prologue probably won't have many things that GT5 will have so it does have some logic that they might introduce less cars and again after seeing the E3 video it shows 12 cars.

Edited June 20, 2009 by Boz

[+Audioboxer Subscriber²]

I didn't claim it would run in 720p. I said I doubt they would be able to pull it out at 1080p at 60fps and that it might be likely to run at 720p. I don't know if it will run at 720p or 1080p. If they manage to do it at 1080p/60fps hats off to them considering they have to add damage and all other things they were noting.

I don't make definite predictions as if I know something others don't, and if I did I did it maybe once or twice (and mostly because I did have first hand info but turned out to be changed or something happened that I really didn't have any influence over). I speculate just like anyone else. Doesn't make it true. It's an opinion. The fact that you might disagree or if I turned out to be wrong nothing to it. No? I'm sure you made predictions from the information you read and were wrong. This is not exclusive to me.

The reason I said 12 cars was because they've shown in the E3 video 12 cars and the screenshot you shown in the other topic had 12/12 cars. Is it possible that it might have more cars. Of course, I was just commenting based on the information I saw. Again, just an opinion.

GT5 Prologue did have 16 cars but GT5 Prologue probably won't have many things that GT5 will have so it does have some logic that they might introduce less cars and again after seeing the E3 video it shows 12 cars.

The Prologue engine is what GT5 is being produced on, having over 2 years to work on it won't take them back from 1080p/60FPS to 720p. The engine was doing 1080p/60FPS back in 2007. No the damage model wasn't included but the cars in Prologue are made by each individual car section being independent - That is what will power the damage modeling in GT5, these individual parts coming off. This is coming directly from a video interview with PD, not my imagination or predictions.

I thought you owned GT5P? If you did you'd know the large tracks done 16/16, smaller tracks 12/12.

It's a maximum of 16 cars on a track, not 16 cars on a track all the time.

[Boz]

whisper may stand for announcement but...

First wind whispers The first rumour/announcement...

that final reunion will happen ... the (final?) release will be...

thirty nights before twelve months pass ... 30 days before the 12 months (year) passes...

and that all winds from the whole world ... world wide ...

will reunite in the same moment for the first time. at the same time

Okay.. I see what you mean.. that does make sense..

The poem might've just been starting with First wind whispers.. as in first story announces that it will come 30 days prior to the end of 12 months. That would make sense.

So it could be December 1st in time for holidays.

So where do you get the 12 months will be after E3?

Well I didn't look at whisper as the start of the first announcement.. I looked it as an official announcement of the game not the announcement/whisper for the information presented in First Wind.

If it whisper meant announcement of the game it would be kind of E3 because that's where official GT5 teaser trailer was shown. So the game was officially announced. Makes sense? But I think you might actually be right. I can see what you meant it does make more sense.

[soniqstylz]

"Stealth Kill!". priceless :laugh:

It's like they're not even trying to make a game anymore...

Random note, just saw this game has a 19 on metacritic. How is that even possible?

[Boz]

The Prologue engine is what GT5 is being produced on, having over 2 years to work on it won't take them back from 1080p/60FPS to 720p.

You know what.. I just checked.. I know that they had to pinch something.. It's not true 1080p even for GT5: Prologue. It's upscaled. Now that explains why they could pull it off.

GT5 Prologue works in 1280x1080 and uses PS3 upscaling trick - by repeating some pixels in anamorphic picture to 1920x1080. So 50% upscale.(It's actually less than GT HD's 1440x1080)

1280x1080 and 2xAA

1280x720 and 4xAA

Confirmed by the same guy from Halo 3 resolution discovery (Quaz51).

"GT5 prologue demo is 1280x1080p (yamauchi know than in car game the vertical resolution is the most important for the visibility) but with MSAA 2x now ! it's a very good Compromise

they also very improved the display of grills and electric wires and aliasing problems (compare electric wires in GT-HD and in this demo, it's big big gap), the texture filtering is very clean and the HDR ligthing is awesome! All this in 60fps with 16 photorealistics cars, it's impressive the show room and the pit/garage is full 1920x1080 no AA"

[+Audioboxer Subscriber²]

We've known that for ages, but it's still 1080 horizontally.

Doesn't make it any less impressive considering the frame rate and cars on track at that resolution.

[Sethos]

Boz is one of the few members around here who will stick to an argument to the very end and not flip flop around, trying to tweak and change his opinion to always sound like he's "right". That may make him sound a bit hard-headed but I wouldn't call him a fanboy. (Y)

EDIT: And this doesn't look out of place when someone removes everything leading up to it :laugh:

Edited June 20, 2009 by Sethos

[TDQuiksilver]

Boz is one of the few members around here who will stick to an argument to the very end and not flip flop around, trying to tweak and change his opinion to always sound like he's "right". That may make him sound a bit hard-headed but I wouldn't call him a fanboy. (Y)

EDIT: And this doesn't look out of place when someone removes everything leading up to it :laugh:

Hard-headed indeed. :laugh:

Cannot wait for this game!